The Sound Steps Podcast

The Sound Steps Podcast

PREVIEW Coming 1 October 2025… What if you could hear, in real time, how a child who is deaf or hard of hearing learns to listen, talk, and thrive?  I’m Shefali Shah, LSLS Cert. AVT®, and this is The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy. Together, we’ll explore how families use Auditory-Verbal Therapy (AVT) to support children with hearing loss in developing spoken language, clear speech, and confidence, one sound step at a time. From a baby’s first babble to a teenager’s quick wit, each conversation reveals the art and science of spoken language development, helping children with hearing impairment develop fluent spoken language, clear speech, and confidence, one sound step at a time.  💡 Hear practical tips you can use today.  💬 Learn from the voices of parents who’ve been where you are.  🎧 Experience the joy, the struggles, and the triumphs of enjoying the world of sound.  New episodes drop on the 1st and 16th of every month.  Follow now, and take your first sound step toward a wonderfully bright future, for your deaf or hard of hearing child and for you.  The Sound Steps Podcast 

Episodes

  1. Generalisation

    2D AGO

    Generalisation

    Meaningful content engages children. They stay attentive. Variety in our use of vocabulary and language forms, builds deeper and more extensive learning pathways.  In this tenth episode, Generalisation: Following up on targets in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, Shefali Shah and Rashi Sanghi bring this concept to life with real-world examples. Their conversation shows how frequency and variety are essential in building a child’s comprehension and ability to talk fluently. Generalisation refers to the sufficient and varied use of a language form so that a deaf or hard of hearing child can understand and use it spontaneously in everyday life, beyond structured practice. Embed learning across diverse moments and forms in every day, to enrich your deaf or hard of hearing child’s experience of life, language and learning. This is The Sound Steps Podcast. 🎧 Top Tips from Episode 10 Generalisation refers to sufficiency and variety. Frequent and varied use of a word or concept helps your child move from understanding to confident use. Focus on intent, not instruction. Engage in heartfelt exchanges that carry meaning. Stay on target. Be spontaneous but keep your child’s weekly targets in sight. Move beyond mere labelling in order to provide your child the enriched input she needs to learn. Generalisation builds independence. With generalisation, children develop the confidence to experiment and use language independent of the contexts that they were shared with them. Time Stamps:00:00:00 Introduction00:01:10 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:01:21 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child00:01:52 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:02:22 Abundant choices open up through AVT00:02:47 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification.00:02:57 A life free of limitatio00:03:03 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps00:03:13 Links and contact details00:03:21 Introduction to this episode00:03:37 Frequency of use and variety are key to understanding language00:06:21 Gaining, engaging and holding attention with live voice00:07:09 Redundancy in parent-child interaction00:07:39 Abundance brings gaiety00:07:59 Doubt00:08:55 Heart-to-heart exchanges00:09:55 Staying on target00:10:37 Introducing our guest on this episode: Rashi Sanghi00:11:29 Using different forms of language to convey the same meaning00:12:36 Enriching language comprehension00:13:12 Providing the language that matches the child’s experience in the moment00:13:28 Context conveys meaning00:13:58 Using vocabulary in a variety of ways: not merely labelling00:14:48 Talking in complete sentences00:15:17 Accelerating learning00:15:35 Sufficiency of usage00:16:24 Generalisation facilitates comprehension00:17:39 Reflection00:18:23 Our next episode: Does my child understand? Resources: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk

    19 min
  2. How To Instil Consistency

    FEB 1

    How To Instil Consistency

    Focussing on your deaf or hard of hearing child’s hearing loss, can skew parenting. If you find yourself in this situation, listen to this episode to learn how, why and what to do about it. Consistency brings structure and order to a child’s day. With order comes predictability and with predictability comes a sense of security and confidence, especially for a deaf or hard of hearing child. In this ninth episode, Shefali Shah leads a spirited workshop discussion with three couples, exploring how regularity, rigour, and diligence in following up weekly targets help children strengthen their learning pathways. Children raised with consistency develop self-regulation, a life skill that underpins both learning and emotional resilience. Consistency builds an internal rhythm in children. This is The Sound Steps Podcast. 🎧 Top Tips from Episode 9Evolving relationships: Each member of the family including your child has a unique relationship with the hearing loss; recognise and respect this dynamic.Consistency brings order. When children see a pattern between cause and effect, life feels safe because it is predictable.Consistency builds security. Repeated patterns help children know what to expect and reduce uncertainty.Consistency instils self-regulation. Your child learns when and how to manage behaviour and responses.Consistency supports learning pathways. Regular follow-up on targets reinforces neural connections and accelerates learning. Time Stamps:00:00:00 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:00:11 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child00:00:54 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:01:16 Abundant choices open up through AVT00:01:40 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification.00:01:48 A life free of limitations00:01:57 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps00:02:06 Links and contact details00:02:12 Resources00:02:23 Standing lines and sleeping lines explained00:02:54 Introduction00:03:29 Introducing our guests on this episode00:03:38 What does Consistency mean?00:04:42 The challenge of bringing family members on board00:06:24 Planning00:06:50 Practice and Automaticity00:07:55 Moving forward synchronously as a couple00:10:00 Consistency shapes your child’s world view00:12:54 Consistency and self-regulation00:13:41 Providing a safety net00:13:21 Consistency in following through with targets00:16:09 Reflection00:16:53 Our next episode: Generalisation Resources: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📚 Resources : Understanding the Importance of Structure and Consistency in Child Development (2024)by inclusiveteach.com

    20 min
  3. Living the Auditory-Verbal Targets

    JAN 16

    Living the Auditory-Verbal Targets

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy - exploring the transformative power of listening to develop fluent spoken language, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, one sound step at a time.Language carries meaning when it fulfils a child’s need to connect, to talk, to communicate a thought or to be understood. It is then that language is quickly learned. In Episode 8, Shefali Shah’s conversation with Rashi Sanghi and Sheena Kurian gives these mothers an opportunity to reflect on how they follow-through on therapy targets throughout their day with their cochlear implanted child. Drawing on real-life situations with their deaf or hard of hearing children, Shefali remodels and re-frames these examples so that the context conveys meaning. As a result, the child truly understands and learns, Living the Targets in Auditory-Verbal Therapy.  Each carefully crafted exchange sets the child up for success. Planning, structuring, and staying responsive become part of the parenting rhythm, making life fun!This is The Sound Steps Podcast. 🎯 Top Tips from Episode 8 Focus on the pragmatics of language. Every communication should fulfil a purpose or need within your child. Structure follow-up meaningfully. Set up activities so that your child wants to participate and talk. Integrate listening into every interaction. Design exchanges where your child so wants to participate, that she listens intently. Set your child up for success. Use familiar language, and introduce only one new element at a time, in the early days. Follow-up is fun! Living and learning with your deaf or hard of hearing child should be fun. Time Stamps:00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:16 The Science of Auditory-Verbal Therapy00:02:05 The Art of Auditory-Verbal Therapy :Weaving weekly targets into daily routine00:02:51 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:03:03 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child00:03:33  AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:04:00 Abundant choices open up through AVT        00:04:28 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification.00:04:40 A life free of limitations00:04:45 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps00:04:56 Links and contact details00:05:14 Introducing our guests on this episode: Rashi Sanghi00:06:33 The implementation of targets must fulfil a need within the child to communicate00:07:07 Create opportunities for your child to demonstrate comprehension of the target00:07:55 Listening must be an integral part of structuring the message00:09:51 Use familiar language 00:10:26 Setting the child up for success00:10:59  Choose your words carefully00:12:14 Introducing our second guest: Sheena Kurian00:13:06 Create more opportunities for your child to demonstrate comprehension of the target00:15:47 Replaying situations to achieve targets00:16:34 Waiting to encourage self-monitoring00:18:16 Setting up tasks to facilitate understanding00:19:43 Reflection00:20:57 Our next episode: ConsistencyResources: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk

    22 min
  4. The Magic of the Wait Cue

    JAN 1

    The Magic of the Wait Cue

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy - exploring the transformative power of listening to develop fluent spoken language, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, one sound step at a time. Communication is more than an exchange: it is a relationship. In Auditory-Verbal Therapy, this relationship is intentional: something we seed, nurture, and keep working at. In this seventh episode, Shefali Shah is joined by Nicole Glazebrook: a dedicated and creative professional from her online Learn AVT course, in a deep and insightful conversation about one of the most deceptively simple yet impactful AVT techniques: the Wait Cue. Together, they explore how waiting, not rushing to fill the silence, creates the space young children need to process language, plan their response, and take ownership of their contribution to the conversation. The Wait Cue fosters trust, stimulates spontaneous language, and builds new cognitive connections. It also aligns beautifully with the OWL Strategy from the Hanen Centre — Observe, Wait, and Listen: a powerful approach to child-led communication and experience-based learning.  This is The Sound Steps Podcast. 🎯Top Tips from Episode 7 Waiting creates space. Children need time to process what was said and to design a response. Don’t rush to fill the silence. Waiting builds trust and connection. When we pause with intention, we invite our child to contribute: as a partner, not a passive learner. The OWL Strategy is rooted in waiting. Observe, Wait, and Listen (Hanen Centre) aligns beautifully with AVT and strengthens child-led interaction. Waiting facilitates self-regulation. Giving time helps children reflect, formulate a meaningful response and monitor how they deliver it. Trust. Listen. Reflect. These are the pillars of interaction and the heart of language learning. Time Stamps: 00:00:00 Introduction to this episode 00:01:26 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents 00:01:35 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child 00:02:17 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development 00:02:35 Abundant choices open up through AVT 00:03:02 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification. 00:03:12 A life free of limitations 00:03:20 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps 00:03:30 Links and contact details 00:03:35 Resources on this topic 00:03:57 AV Techniques: Sabotage 00:04:10AV Technique: The Wait Cue 00:05:06 Introducing our guest on this episode: Nicole Glazebrook 00:05:00 Introducing the Wait Cue 00:07:22 Waiting creates Space to process what was said 00:07:36 Takes reflection in order to practice 00:09:07 Waiting facilitates more initiation and participation from the child 00:09:56 Acknowledging that one doesn’t have answers 00:10:15 Becoming a good listener 00:10:47Allows time to observe 00:11:13 Comfortable with and in silence 00:11:29 Creates the Silence and Space for the child to figure things out for herself 00:12:37 Establishes trust 00:13:10 A deliberate Wait 00:13:50 The give-and-take of Waiting 00:14:52Releases pressure 00:15:15 Waiting is a deliberate slowing down of pace 00:16:38 Takes experience and confidence to practice 00:16:58 It’s okay not to have understood 00:17:20 The Hanen Centre: The OWL Strategy 00:19:10 Facilitates self-regulation 00:21:15 A comprehensive technique 00:21:27 Auditory-Verbal Therapy is a relationship  00:22:23 Reflection 00:22:54 Our next episode: Living the Targets Resources Mentioned in this Episode: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Estabrooks, W., Morrison, H. M., & MacIver‑Lux, K. (2020). Auditory‑Verbal Therapy: Science, Research & Practice (1st ed.). Plural Publishing. Manolson, A. (1992). It Takes Two to Talk: A Parent’s Guide to Helping Children Communicate. Hanen Centre. The Hanen Center, (2024),Waiting: The Key to Supporting Your Child’s Communication https://www.hanen.org/information-tips/waiting-the-key-to-supporting-your-childs-communication

    24 min
  5. Sparking Conversation in the Deaf or Hard of Hearing Child

    12/16/2025

    Sparking Conversation in the Deaf or Hard of Hearing Child

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, exploring fluent spoken language development, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a time Conversation is at the heart of human connection, spontaneous, unplanned, and deeply nurturing.    In this sixth episode, Shefali Shah invites us to introspect on what truly constitutes a heart-to-heart conversation with your child with hearing loss, not just chatter, but a reciprocal, emotional and verbal exchange. In warm and candid dialogue with two mothers of children with cochlear implants, Sheena Kurian and Ratnaa Binu, coached by Shefali Shah, discover how to stay spontaneous and suspend correction. Together they explore how to reshape their style of interaction with their young child with hearing loss, as they experience first-hand the thrill of creating space for natural spoken language development and communication to emerge and flourish. They unravel how techniques in Auditory-Verbal Therapy such as Modelling and Waiting not only support spoken language development , but also nurture the very soul of conversation, shared attention, trust, and joy. This episode offers practical insights and celebrates those precious moments of connection with your child with hearing loss that arise beyond expectation. This is The Sound Steps Podcast. 🎯 Top Tips from Episode 6 Conversation is a spontaneous heart-to-heart exchange.The topic emerges naturally, and the flow is kept alive as long as both partners remain engaged.       Keep the conversation going.Corrections and interruptions disrupt the rhythm and may silence a child’s attempt to contribute.  Use Modelling to guide gently.Modelling allows you to enrich your child’s language without breaking conversational flow.                                 Conversation is not a lesson.Stay spontaneous. You’re not testing your child - you’re partnering with them.       Listen for communicative intent. Respond with reassurance. It’s the intent to connect that fuels language growth. Waiting gives space for thought and expression.Wait intentionally. Your child needs time to process, feel, and contribute meaningfully.                                        Suspend judgement.Approach every exchange as an equal partner; not a disruptor.                                   Experience the unexpected!True conversation invites surprises. Enjoy where your child leads you. Time Stamps: 00:00:00 Introduction to this episode 00:00:05 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents 00:00:21 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child 00:00:27 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification. 00:01:00 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development 00:01:17 Abundant choices open up through AVT 00:01:51 A life free of limitations 00:02:00 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps 00:02:10 Links and contact details 00:02:17 Resources on this topic 00:02:19 Auditory-Verbal Techniques 00:02:39 Auditory-Verbal Techniques: Sabotage 00:03:03 Modelling 00:03:33 Quick review of the highlights of Episode 5. 00:04:09 Introducing the topic 00:04:25  Introducing our guest in this episode: Sheena Kurian 00:04:53  Engaging your child in conversation 00:05:19  What constitutes a Conversation 00:05:43 Conversation is spontaneous 00:06:05  Content 00:06:22 Interruption and correction 00:06:39 Modelling 00:07:27 Keeping the conversation going 00:07:57 Do daily routines constitute Conversation? 00:08:06 Transactional Vs heart-to-heart exchanges 00:08:49 Conversation starters 00:09:31 Conversation is not a lesson 00:10:08 Conversations have no agenda. 00:10:28 How to stay spontaneous 00:11:13 Captivating your child’s imagination 00:12:20 Adopting an open ended style of engagement  00:13:05 Listen for intent 00:14:52 Introducing our second guest: Ratnaa Binu 00:14:28 Suspend criticism 00:15:17 Living the moment together with your child 00:18:27  Achieving the unexpected 00:19:00 Thought for reflection  00:19:47  Our next episode: The Magic of the Wait Cue 🔗 Links: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Estabrooks, W., Morrison, H., and MacIver-Lux, (2020). Auditory-Verbal Therapy: Science, Research and Practice, Plural Publishing. Suskind, D. (2015),Thirty Million Words: Building a Child’s Brain, Dutton. Websites: https://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/videos/how-to-5-steps-for-brain-building-serve-and-return/ (2019) Center on the Developing Child (Harvard University). “Serve and Return.” https://developingchild.harvard.edu

    21 min
  6. Warren Estabrooks Auditory-Verbal Therapy

    12/01/2025

    Warren Estabrooks Auditory-Verbal Therapy

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, exploring fluent spoken language, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a time.In Episode 5, Shefali Shah and Warren Estabrooks share a spontaneous, in-depth conversation about how children who are deaf or hard of hearing learn to develop conversation. With expertise and the knowledge that optimal access to all the sounds of speech is essential for the development of conversation, they explore the science and art of Auditory-Verbal Therapy (AVT) through evidence-based AV practice.This is The Sound Steps Podcast.🎧Top Tips from Episode 5 Conversation is both the means and the end goal. Use Conversation to develop Conversational Competence. Children learn to listen in Conversation. Auditory-Verbal Therapy pre-supposes optimal auditory access. In order for deaf or hard of hearing children to listen and talk, they must hear clearly across the speech spectrum. Auditory-Verbal Therapy is both a Science and an Art. AVT must be based on the science of audiology, speech acoustics and child development. The style of the individual therapist in delivering AVT, represents the art of it. Demonstrate success. Seeing results is hugely motivating. Draw on typical development. Use the developmental milestones in children with typical hearing, especially for children with additional challenges. Suprises are key. Preserve the element of surprise for both parent and child in your practice.  3 Dimensional Conversation: (Morrison, H.,) Quality input  Provide an enriched input. Guide Conversation in everyday situations. Purposeful responses from both parent and child and other participating adults Use the OWL strategy (Hanen Centre) Train the non-verbal power of Observation in parents Wait: This is a powerful AV Technique Act out a scenario: Create stories to hold attention Time Stamps:00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:10 Introducing our guest: Warren Estabrooks  00:01:54 90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:02:03 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child   00:02:37 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:03:00 Abundant choices open up through AVT00:03:32 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification              00:03:43 A life free of limitations           00:03:48 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps00:03:58 Links and contact details00:04:06 AV Techniques00:04:22 AV Technique: Modelling00:05:00 Resources on this topic00:05:25 Using Conversation to  develop Conversational Competence 00:09:00 Optimal auditory access is critical for AVT00:09:32 Pioneers of AVT                  00:10:46 Doubt00:11:06 Demonstrate success00:11:20 The role of development in children with typical hearing 00:11:49 Engaging with young children: Parentese00:13.41 Modelling00:14:12 The Learning to Listen Sounds00:14:42 Actualising therapy targets through Conversation00:15: 53 Preserve the element of surprise00:16:43 Children learn to listen in the context of Conversation00:16:54 Three Dimensional Conversation: Quality input/Guide Conversation/Respond with purpose (Morrison, H.,)00:17:28 Centre on the Developing Child: Harvard University00:18:38 Resist testing children00:19:10 The Hanen Centre: OWL Strategy00:20:48 Expansion and Recasting to refine grammar and expand vocabulary00:21:12 Automaticity00:21:40 Staying natural00:23:17 Pace of learning00:24:25 Diagnostics00:25:41 The AV Technique: Wait Cue00:28:11 Giving parents an “in” into the Conversation 00:28:55 Handing over to parent00:29:32 Create stories00:29:40 The Wait Cue00:31:25 The gaze and Trust00:32:18 Inviting participation 00:33:10 The freedom of choice00:34:03 Reflection00:34:30 Upcoming episode: Sparking Conversation🔗 Links: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Estabrooks, W., Morrison, H.M., MacIver-Lux, K., (2020) Auditory‑Verbal Therapy: Science, Research and Practice, Plural Publishing Inc, San Diego, CA Estabrooks, W., MacIver-Lux, K., & Rhoades, E. A. (Eds.). (2016) Auditory‑Verbal Therapy for Young Children with Hearing Loss and Their Families, and the Practitioners Who Guide Them, Plural Publishing Inc, San Diego, CA Webesites: Center on the Developing Child (Harvard University). “Serve and Return.” https://developingchild.harvard.edu https://www.hanen.org

    35 min
  7. Are We Pre-Judging our Deaf or Hard of Hearing Toddlers

    11/16/2025

    Are We Pre-Judging our Deaf or Hard of Hearing Toddlers

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, exploring fluent spoken language development, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a time.In this fourth episode, Shefali Shah invites you to reflect on why we sometimes limit the nature and depth of our engagement with our deaf or hard of hearing toddler. Through this conversation she explains the repercussions of the assumptions we make about what our toddler can or cannot understand, on her spoken language development. When we pre‑judge our toddler’s ability, we unintentionally withhold the very language, stimulation, and interaction she needs to learn and thrive.In conversation with Rashi Sanghi, mother of a bi-lateral cochlear implant recipient, in the early days of Auditory-Verbal Therapy, Shefali Shah guides, coaches, and reshapes her approach to spoken language development in her child with hearing loss, revisiting real moments of daily interaction. Together, they rework these situations to restore variety and richness, using the techniques of Auditory-Verbal Therapy such as Sabotage and Modelling to accelerate the development of both receptive and expressive spoken language.Toddler development tells us that young children are constantly telling and showing us what they've understood and whether they are ready to move on. Are we observant enough to trust them?This is The Sound Steps Podcast.🎧 Top Tips from Episode 4Bring abundance, variety and richness of experiences into every day. This positions your child to build new connections in language and thinking. Observe your child and trust her. Resist pre-judging your child.  Observe and analyse your child’s reactions and responses while you engage her. Use Sabotage wisely. Intentional interruption invites natural language use and sustains attention. Keep Modelling. This accelerates the development of receptive and expressive language in your deaf or hard of hearing toddler. Time Stamps:00:00:00 Introduction to this episode00:01:03 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy for your deaf or hard of hearing child00:01:35   90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:01:41 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:02:43 Abundant choices open up through AVT00:03:07 Early identification and the fitting of early and optimal amplification.00:03:15 A life free of limitations           00:03:24 Show notes, Top tips and Time Stamps00:03:33Links and contact details00:03:42 Resources on this topic00:03:47 Introducing our guest: Rashi Sanghi00:04:30 The Sound Steps Podcast is rooted in the real-life experiences of Sound Steps’ families00:04:40 AV Techniques 00 :04:58: AV Technique: Sabotage00:05:21: AV Technique: Modelling00:05:52 Do we have preconceived notions about what our toddler can or will understand?00:6:11 Explaining to our child through books00:06:21 Hesitating 00:06:41 Doubt00:06:58 How to determine readiness00:07:07 Preparation00:07:11 Can one ever know the readiness of another?00:07:27 Trust your child00:07:57 Holding off on pre-judging the other00:08:09 Offer our child a banquet of experiences and spoken language opportunities00:08:20 Abundance, Variety and Richness00:08:33 Steady progress00:09:36 Appreciating the other00:10:00 Using the language of emotion and appreciation00:10:20 Sufficiency of experiences00:10:37 Bringing sufficiency into Follow-up00:10:52 Generalisation00:11:01 Sufficiency of experience generates a strong foundation with which to create 00:11:33 Creating new connections in language development00:12:47 Modelling00:13:10 Sabotage00:13:44 Understanding that using one’s voice fulfils my needs.00:14:58 Typical development in 21+ month olds00:15:30 The need for generalisation 00:16:31 Bringing in the richness of linguistic experiences00:16:40 Let’s not pre-judge00:17:09 Lay out a diet of enriched language experiences00:17:17 Encourage your child to show you what she wants to learn.00:17:34 Using Sabotage to support the development of expressive language 00:18:52 Engage but also observe and analyse00:19:36 The value of Generalisation.00:20:20 Neural plasticity00:20:45 Allow your child to demonstrate what she is ready to absorb00:21:34 Steer engagement based on your child’s readiness and willingness as demonstrated 00:22:05Context conveys meaning00:22:40 Let’s not put our children on a diet00:22:47 Offer a feast00:23:00 Reflection00:23:35  Our next episode features a celebrity guest: Warren Estabrooks🔗 Links: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Brazelton, T.B., Sparrow, J.,D.,(2006), Touchpoints Birth-Three, Da Capo Press Estabrooks, W., Morrison, H.M., MacIver-Lux, K., (2020) Auditory‑Verbal Therapy: Science, Research and Practice, Plural Publishing Inc, San Diego, CA Galinsky, E.,(2010), Mind in the Making, The Seven Essential Skills Every Child Needs, Mariner Books

    24 min
  8. Auditory-Verbal Beginnings

    11/01/2025

    Auditory-Verbal Beginnings

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, exploring fluent spoken language development, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a timeIn this third episode, Shefali Shah is joined by a resilient couple of a child with hearing loss in a live, in-person conversation at her London practice, at Sound Steps.Listen to their quiet, honest admissions.Rejoice in their transformation, learning to enjoy Auditory-Verbal Therapy, applying techniques in Auditory-Verbal Therapy and parenting to stay in the moment, physically, mentally, emotionally, cognitively, and verbally, as they support their daughter, a bilateral cochlear implant recipient.An eye-opening experience indeed.This is The Sound Steps Podcast.🎧 Top Tips from Episode 3 Plan with purpose. Clear planning helps track and follow up on weekly AVT targets with focus and intent. Use language meaningfully. Embed targets into every day to support comprehension. Let your child show you. Let’s not pre-judge ability; observe how your child responds to know what’s too hard or just right. Context matters. What seems difficult is easily understood when used meaningfully in familiar, relatable situations. Use Sabotage strategically. This AV technique creates a genuine need to talk and quickly engages your child. Refresh vocabulary. Once a word or concept is understood, replace them with synonyms and new contexts to deepen comprehension. Change fosters growth. Variation keeps your child’s brain alert and learning. Communication is a need. The desire to share fuels listening and attention, propelling your child to talk. Make learning joyful. Listening and learning is fun!  Stay in the moment. AVT reminds you to stay spontaneous: physically, mentally, emotionally, cognitively, and verbally engaging with your child. AVT becomes a way of life. With time, this intentional way of engaging becomes a habit, fuelling development beyond expectation. Time Stamps:00:00:01 Introduction00:01:09 Ninety percent of children who are deaf or hard of hearing are born to parents with normal hearing.00:02:03 AVT facilitates age-appropriate development.00:02:23 Abundant choices.00:02:49 Sophisticated hearing technology, early identification and commencement of effective services shape excellent outcomes.00:03:03 Show notes, Top Tips, Time Stamps, Links with contact details and Resources.00:03:27Auditory-Verbal Technique: Sabotage.00:04:07 A bumpy start for some children who are deaf or hard of hearing. 00:04:30 Introducing our guests for this episode.00:04:49 Changing the ways you engage your child.00:05:15  Clearer speech.                                          00:05:59 Immediate and abundant praise. 00:06:25 Strengthening neural connections and auditory memory for future recall.    00:07:18 Planning is key. 00:07:13 Planning ways to make language demonstrable to the child. 00:07:45 Making spoken language meaningful to the child’s situation by using it in a natural contexts.00:10:00 Letting go of pre-conceived notions that some targets are too hard for your child to understand. 00:10:22 Allow your child to decide whether something is too hard.00:10:49 Context conveys meaning.                                           00:11:23 The AV Technique of Sabotage 00:12:31  Change ensures growth.00:13:04  The lack of predictability keeps your child wanting to listen.                           00:13:42 Creating the need to communicate.                         00:14:20 Accelerating the pace of learning.  00:14:32 The child sets the pace of learning.00:15:23 Incorporating therapy targets through the day.00:15:46 Auditory-Verbal Therapy is about staying in the moment, physically, mentally, emotionally cognitively and verbally. 00:16:08 Energising, not tiring.00:16:58 Capitalising on every opportunity to listen and learn.00:17:29 Learning language in real-life terms.00:17:42 Auditory-Verbal-Therapy as  a way of life becomes a habit for both you and your child.00:17:56 The habit is that you stay in the moment. Your child stays listening and participative.   00:18:17 Time management.                                                                                           00:18:56 Auditory-Verbal Therapy is fun and an exciting and liberating experience!  00:19:45 Being with your deaf or hard of hearing child is fun!00:19:54 Learning becomes fun for your child.       00:20:21 Enjoying Parenting. 00:20:47 An eye-opening experience!00:21:16 Seeing results is the best motivation!00:22:30 Staying on track.00:23:08 Confident Parenting!00:24:48 Reflection00:25:25 Upcoming episode: Are we pre-judging our toddler?🔗 Links: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Estabrooks, W., Morrison, H.M., MacIver-Lux, K., (2020) Auditory‑Verbal Therapy: Science, Research and Practice, Plural Publishing Inc, San Diego, CA Estabrooks, W., MacIver-Lux, K., & Rhoades, E. A. (Eds.). (2016) Auditory‑Verbal Therapy for Young Children with Hearing Loss and Their Families, and the Practitioners Who Guide Them, Plural Publishing Inc, San Diego, CA

    26 min
  9. My Dad! Journeying with a  Child Who is Deaf or Hard of Hearing

    10/15/2025

    My Dad! Journeying with a Child Who is Deaf or Hard of Hearing

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast:Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy,  exploring fluent spoken language development, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a timeIn this second episode, Shefali Shah is joined by Timothy D’Souza, a father of a child with bilateral cochlear implants from her in-person practice at Sound Steps, who speaks openly about the denial and heart‑wrenching pain of his son’s diagnosis of hearing loss. Alongside profound deafness, his son faced additional challenges: thin auditory nerves and Sensory Integration Difficulty.This deep conversation highlights the importance of prioritising yourself, parenting without guilt, so that you can fully support your child who is deaf or hard of hearing.From the early days of denial to celebrating his hearing impaired son’s constant chatter, Timothy shares how informed decisions, consistency and a creative approach to Auditory-Verbal Therapy, shaped their journey. Seamlessly integrating goals in occupational therapy and speech into weekly targets in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, made this a joyful process, fostering a strong, playful father-son bond that endures. This conversation is both poignant and filled with laughter, through the years of teenager development, celebrating the emergence of a compassionate adolescent who is appreciated at school for his empathy. This is The Sound Steps Podcast.🎧 Top Tips from Episode 2 Enjoy the process. Make therapy fun and creative. Make yourself a priority. Taking time out without guilt is energising. Raise your child to be the best version of himself. Resist comparisons. Your child is unique. Focus on appreciation, not pity. AVT builds a life‑long relationship. Invest in it with intention. ⏱️ Time Stamps00:00:00    Introduction    00:01:33    90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:01:43    Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy00:02:18    AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:02:43    Abundant choices open up through AVT00:03:09   Early identification, sophisticated modern hearing technology and appropriate services00:03:17   A life free of limitations00:03:25   Show notes, Top Tips Time Stamps00:03:35   Links and Contact details00:03:43   Resources00:03:47   Diagnosis: Thin auditory nerve and Sensory Integration Difficulties 00:04:15   Introducing our guest on this episode: Timothy D’souza00:04:40   Moving on00:05:38   Denial to action: facing the facts00:06:42   Action00:07:36  Raising your child to be the best version of himself 00:08:13   Isolation00:08:15   The effects of poor speech intelligibility00:09:45   Overcoming the challenges through consistent practice00:09:54    Touch sensitivity00:10:14    Integrating Occupational Therapy and Speech goals into AVT00:11:39    Changing perspective00:12:45   The value of games00:14:21    Consistency00:15:00    The value of self-care for parents00:18:31    Bonding00:18:41    Handling tantrums00:19:48    Consistency and managing behaviour00:20:56    An extra-ordinary relationship00:21:46    Empathy and emotional maturity00:22:26    An exceptionally special bond00:23:11    Reflection00:23:49   Upcoming episode: Auditory-Verbal Beginnings🔗 Links💬 Submit a question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 AVT training for professionals: https://learnavt.com📘 Resources: Roley, S.S., Mailoux, Z., Miller-Kuhaneck, H.M., Glennon,T (2007), Understanding Ayres’ Sensory Integration, Sacred Heart University, OT Practice.12(17):CE-1-CE-7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haw5m3Zxvy4  In the Clinic with Dr. A Jean Ayres| The Sensory Processing Disorder Foundation

    25 min
  10. You are not Alone Parenting a Child Who is Deaf or Hard of Hearing

    09/16/2025

    You are not Alone Parenting a Child Who is Deaf or Hard of Hearing

    Welcome to The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy, exploring fluent spoken language development, conversational competence, clear speech, and age-appropriate development, in children who are deaf or hard of hearing, through the transformative power of listening and parent-centred Auditory-Verbal Therapy, one sound step at a time.Your perfect world has just been upended by a diagnosis you never expected: your newborn has a hearing loss. In this opening episode, host Shefali Shah, LSLS Cert. AVT, speaks with mothers of children who are deaf or hard hearing at Sound Steps, who share their early struggles. Brave enough to speak about the wretchedness of those early days, they now celebrate their child’s forthcoming graduation from early intervention, having achieved spoken language development well ahead of age. Each of them chose Auditory-Verbal Therapy, to open up the world of sound and spoken language development for their child, free from the limitations that hearing loss imposes, when not effectively managed.In openhearted, in-person conversations with Shefali Shah, a globally recognised LSLS Cert. AVT professional, they retrace their journey of pain, confusion, loneliness  and exhaustion as they discover a clear path to a future of abundance, shaped by informed choice and intentional action.Though each journey was different, their stories echo one truth: with early and appropriate support, parents of children with hearing impairment can guide their child toward a future full of opportunity.You’ve taken the first step by identifying your child’s hearing loss early. Now listen in  and penetrate the loneliness to emerge an enthusiastic, energised, committed parent of a child who is deaf or hard of hearing. This is The Sound Steps Podcast.🎧 Top Tips from Episode 1 Decide how you wish to raise your child who is deaf or hard of hearing. Choose wisely. Make an informed choice and be guided by the knowledge, experience, and skills of professionals you trust. Act. The only way to dispel the early loneliness is to move forward. Know this: the loneliness will pass. Auditory-Verbal Therapy opens up a life of rich, meaningful opportunity : for your child and for you. Time Stamps:00:00:00   Introduction00:01:09   The Auditory-Verbal journey begins00:01:30   Identification of hearing loss and confirmed diagnosis00:01:48   Special thanks to our guests: Priyanka Mahapatra, Pradnya Madhbhavi, and Megha Mawandia00:02:23    Show notes, Top Tips Time Stamps00:02:34    Links and contact details00:02:49   90% of deaf children are born to hearing parents00:03:30   AVT facilitates age-appropriate development00:03:50  Abundant choices open up through AVT 00:04:17  Early identification, sophisticated hearing technology & appropriate services00:04:28  A life free of limitations00:04:38  Diagnosis through newborn hearing screening00:04:58 Creating a route map; making informed decisions00:05:17 Choosing how to raise your child and who to work with00:05:50 Choosing Auditory-Verbal Therapy00:06:50Addressing loneliness and helplessness in the early days00:10:40  Commencing Auditory-Verbal Therapy 00:11:14   Navigating the emotional differences between partners00:14:48 Family dynamics, reflection, and growth00:16:40 Support, gratitude, and transformation00:18:23 Family support00:20:17 Support at school00:21:52 Your child is unique 00:23:38  Build your team00:23:44  You are not alone00:24:08   Reflection00:24:49   Upcoming episode: My Dad!🔗 Links: 💬 Submit your question to the show: https://www.soundsteps.uk/podcast-ask-question/ 👩‍⚕️ Face-to-face AVT with Shefali Shah (London): https://soundsteps.uk 🌐 Online AVT sessions available via AVT Direct: https://avtdirect.com 🎓 Train online as an LSL professional in AVT: https://learnavt.com 📧 Contact Shefali directly: shefalishah@soundsteps.uk 📘 Resources: Luterman, D., (2006), Children With Hearing Loss: A Family Guide, Auricle Ink Pub.  Luterman, D., (2002), When your Child is Deaf,: A Guide for Parents, York Press Luterman, D., (1999), The Young Deaf Child, York Press Goring, M.B., (2013), The Cycle of Love and Grief in Parents of Children with Special Needs

    26 min

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PREVIEW Coming 1 October 2025… What if you could hear, in real time, how a child who is deaf or hard of hearing learns to listen, talk, and thrive?  I’m Shefali Shah, LSLS Cert. AVT®, and this is The Sound Steps Podcast: Conversations in Auditory-Verbal Therapy. Together, we’ll explore how families use Auditory-Verbal Therapy (AVT) to support children with hearing loss in developing spoken language, clear speech, and confidence, one sound step at a time. From a baby’s first babble to a teenager’s quick wit, each conversation reveals the art and science of spoken language development, helping children with hearing impairment develop fluent spoken language, clear speech, and confidence, one sound step at a time.  💡 Hear practical tips you can use today.  💬 Learn from the voices of parents who’ve been where you are.  🎧 Experience the joy, the struggles, and the triumphs of enjoying the world of sound.  New episodes drop on the 1st and 16th of every month.  Follow now, and take your first sound step toward a wonderfully bright future, for your deaf or hard of hearing child and for you.  The Sound Steps Podcast