The Social Currency (T$C)

Aurelie Krau and Tahnee Perry

Your voice and your network are your superpowers. Welcome to The Social Currency! In each episode, Tahnee, your resident AI nerd & Aurelie, the Work From Anywhere techie welcome a guest and share real stories of connection, trust, and the relationships that shape our lives.

Episodes

  1. 11/01/2025

    TSC Episode 7 – Why Every Journey Starts with Empathy with Makiko Barrett

    “What’s normal for me might not be normal for you — and that’s not wrong. It’s just different.” Makiko Barrett, a global citizen whose life bridges two cultures (Japan and the U.S.) joins us in this episode. From learning the unwritten rules of Japanese business etiquette to managing global travel programs in Silicon Valley, Makiko shares how cultural literacy, empathy, and openness have shaped her personal and professional journey. She opens up about what it means to rebuild social capital from zero in new environments, the lessons she’s learned navigating different work cultures, and how AI and automation can empower -not replace- humans in the travel industry. And of course, we couldn’t skip her other passion: rescuing cats and connecting people (and animals) through kindness. Episode timeline (00:00) – Introductions (01:18) – From Tokyo to Texas: becoming truly bilingual and bicultural (02:25) – How rescuing cats became a lifelong mission (and social network) (04:00) – Defining social capital and why it’s your “trust currency” at work (05:42) – Japan’s business etiquette bootcamp (08:20) – How cultural differences impact your social capital (09:40)  – Learning empathy through language barriers (12:28) – Why firsthand travel experience beats social media (14:12) – The real ROI of business travel: cultural literacy and social capital (16:17) – Younger generations and the rise of “bleisure” (business + leisure) (17:52) – Travel as a way to overcome stereotypes (18:28) – How AI can automate the boring to make room for creativity (21:16)  – AI as a (travel) companion (24:10) – Drawing the line between AI and human connection (26:40)  – Makiko’s career advice & her gift to listeners About Makiko Barrett: Makiko Barrett is the Senior Global Strategic Sourcing Manager at SanDisk Technologies, Inc., a leading innovator in Flash and advanced memory technology based in Silicon Valley. With extensive experience in global travel management, she has led travel programs for major companies, including TikTok/ByteDance, Automation Anywhere, and Yahoo.   Beyond her corporate role, Makiko serves as the Chairperson of the GBTA Silicon Valley Chapter, contributing her expertise to the business travel community.   She holds a B.A. in English from Aoyama Gakuin University in Tokyo, Japan. Originally from Japan, she grew up in both Houston, TX, and Yokohama, Japan. In her free time, she volunteers with the Humane Society Silicon Valley, combining her passion for animals with community service. Connect with Makiko and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/makikobarrett/ Resources mentioned in this episode: Podcast: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/business-podcasts/think-fast-talk-smart-podcast Book: https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Psychology-Persuasion-Robert-Cialdini/dp/006124189X - - - - - - - About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aureliekrau/ On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aureliekrau/ Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahneeperry/ - - - - - - - Liked it? Help us spread the word! If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    30 min
  2. 10/23/2025

    TSC Episode 6 - Why AI Will Redefine Digital… and Reinforce the Physical World with Shawn DuBravac

    “AI transforms data and travel transforms people” What happens when curiosity meets technology, travel, and the future? In this episode, futurist and bestselling author Dr. Shawn DuBravac joins us to talk about framing the future, not just predicting it. From running a marathon in North Korea to exploring how AI is reshaping our digital and physical worlds, Shawn brings a powerful lens on curiosity, human connection, and how travel helps us see the world differently. We also dig into why social capital matters more than ever in an AI-driven world, how curiosity fuels genuine relationships, and why travel pushes us to live in the moment. A conversation that blends tech, humanity, and curiosity. Episode timeline (00:00) — Who is Shawn, really? (01:25) — The Pyongyang Marathon (03:19) — Curiosity as compound interest (04:30) — Finding the story in the data (06:31) — AI vs. lived experience (10:20) — AI rewiring our digital world (13:53) — Why networks matter more than ever — especially for young professionals (17:25) — Curiosity as the bridge to connection (18:53) — Travel as a privilege: realizing how small the world is and how similar we are (20:12) — Mantras that shape a futurist (21:21) — Travel experiences, modern tech… and what it unlocks (27:04) — Shawn’s gift to listeners About Shawn DuBravac Acclaimed futurist and trendcaster, Dr. Shawn DuBravac is author of the New York Times Best Seller Digital Destiny: How the New Age of Data Will Transform the Way We Work, Live, and Communicate, which explores how the world’s mass adoption of digital technologies portends the beginning of a new era for humanity in the realms of business, healthcare, finance, transportation, and culture. Dr. DuBravac delivers pragmatic and provocative insights on the trends, technologies, and paradigms transforming business and society along with actionable strategies that organizations in every industry can apply. Connect with Shawn and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawndubravac/ His website: shawndubravc.com - - - - - About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aureliekrau/ On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aureliekrau/ Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahneeperry/ - - - - - Liked it? Help us spread the word! If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    29 min
  3. 10/16/2025

    TSC Episode 5 - Why Curiosity, Travel, and Saying Yes Can Change Everything with Karen Hutchings

    “Every journey teaches you something about people, culture, and connection.” From boardrooms to barns, from AI strategy to animal rescue, this conversation with Karen Hutchings is full of energy, curiosity, and powerful lessons on leadership, connection, and reinvention. We explore how travel expands perspective, how team culture mirrors the harmony (and hierarchy) of her beloved animals, and why curiosity is her superpower for embracing technology and change. Karen shares personal stories from her global career, what she’s learned from living in multiple countries, and why saying YES has shaped the course of her life. Episode timeline (00:00) — Welcome & Karen’s story: from countryside to global stages (02:12) — Horses, goats, and what animals can teach us about teamwork (04:03) — Travel as an enabler for empathy and cultural understanding (05:47) — How India became part of her story (07:10) — Shifting from corporate leadership to animal sanctuary life (09:35) — Why the travel & meetings industry needs to embrace tech and innovation (12:56) — Why the pace of innovation should accelerate (14:00) — Overcoming fear of technology through curiosity (16:52) — Engaging your internal stakeholders for better impact (19:35) — The power of asking questions and not needing all the answers (21:36) — Building networks that fuel growth and resilience (25:35) — Travel as a lifelong career — along with community (27:03) — Words of wisdom: say yes, stay curious, build your network (29:02) — Karen’s gift: travel as the greatest teacher About Karen Hutchings: Founder of Cobb & Hutch Consulting – EST January 2024. Karen is known as a Global Leader learning the nuances of business by living and working in all areas of the globe.  Recognized as having an innovative mindset and known for challenging the status quo and driving change across the travel, meetings & events industry. She has never been afraid to take chances and try new ideas and initiatives, an intrapreneur by choice with a desire to always be part of a diverse and high performing team. As part of Cobb & Hutch Consulting Karen is on the Board of HeadBox, a meetings & events technology company, and acts as a strategic advisor to them and Silverdoor, a long stay serviced apartment service provider.  Additionally she is supporting Badge, a SaaS platform that enables companies to create SmartCards: digital loyalty cards, membership cards, & gift cards that live in mobile wallets with built-in geotargeting push notification campaigns and Clarasight, which is a carbon planning and analysis platform that helps businesses manage their carbon budgets and emissions plans. On a personal note … While running was always a passion, having run 26 marathons around the world, Karen now spends her spare time with her horses, sheep, cats, rescue dogs Buddy& Bubbles and two goats Billy & Benny as supporting her husband in his downhill mountain bike adventures and supporting a dog sanctuary in Goa India to retain her connectivity with the country she has come to love. Connect with Karen and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-hutchings-0746a36/ - - - - - - - About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aureliekrau/ Or on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aureliekrau/ Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahneeperry/ - - - - - - - Liked it? Help us spread the word! If this story resonated with you, share it with yourpeople, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made adifference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    31 min
  4. 10/10/2025

    TSC Episode 4 - Why Travel Unlocks Growth - Personally and Professionally with Sahara Rose De Vore

    “Travel is so much more than a transaction. It’s human, personal, and transformational.” Sahara Rose De Vore joins us to talk about how travel can be a catalyst for connection, transformation, and opportunity. From backpacking solo accros 84 countries to building The Travel Coach Network, Sahara shares why connection, visibility, and curiosity are essential ingredients for creating opportunities — whether you’re a traveler, a leader, or a founder. We also tackle how tech and AI can be powerful enablers (when used with heart). This is a conversation about purpose, people, and the power of travel to open doors.  Episode timeline (00:00) — Welcome & Sahara’s story: art, curiosity, and independence (02:47) — Defining social capital in the context of travel (04:10) — The origin of Travel Coach Network and people at core (08:02) — How travel drives transformation — in leisure and corporate (09:50) — Personal growth, ROI, and cultural literacy (11:40) — The power of mentorship and community (13:59) — AI, travel tech & keeping the human connection at the center (16:46) — Tech as a bridge for digital nomads and connection (19:12) — Building visibility and trust (20:45) — Introverts, extroverts, and the different ways to connect (23:45) — Sahara’s gift for listeners About Sahara Rose De Vore Sahara Rose De Vore is the Founder and CEO of The Travel Coach Network, a global community of travel coaches. Sahara went from broke college student to traveling to 84 countries solo to trailblazing a new path in the travel industry. She believes that the travel planning process is more than just a transaction. This led her to creating the world's first and only ICF accredited certification program for travel coaches.  Sahara is a published author, global speaker, TEDx speaker, and has been in over 200 media outlets for her travel and business expertise including Travel Weekly, Conde Nast Traveler, TripAdvisor, CNBC, CNN Travel, and twice in Forbes. Sahara is on the Advisory Board for The Hotel Guide, was named one of 2023’s Most Influential Women in Travel by TravelPulse, and also appeared on Season 8 of Project Pitch It. Connect with Sahara and grow your social capital! TCN Website Sahara’s Website Sahara’s Instagram TCN Instagram Sahara's Linkedin Sahara’s Facebook TCN Facebook TCN YouTube - - - - - - - About your hosts Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie: On ⁠LinkedIn⁠ | On ⁠Instagram⁠ Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd: On ⁠LinkedIn⁠ - - - - - - - Liked it? If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    26 min
  5. 10/02/2025

    TSC Episode 3 - Why People and Curiosity Matter More Than Strategy with Mark Corbett

    “Your first customer, your biggest ally, your next opportunity - it all comes from your network!” We open with Mark’s core driver: making meaningful impact for people and the planet. From his simple rule, “add more value,” to a very practical take on purposeful travel, Mark shows how social capital grows when curiosity, generosity, and preparation meet. We dig into: building relationships as a founder, balancing in-person with online moments, introvert-friendly conference tactics (hello, 3-2-1 rule!), decision frameworks for tough calls, and why passion is often the product of practice - not luck. Episode timeline: (00:00) – Welcome & tea diplomacy (52:00) – Impact as a compass (01:36) – The spark behind Thrust Carbon (03:30) – “Add more value” as a life rule. From people-centric to me-centric. (06:08) – Travel, connection, and working smarter (08:20) –Purposeful travel & balance (11:04) – Help for introverts at events (15:06) – First-timers & imposter feelings (18:06) – Make it personal, make it memorable (19:30) – Storytelling that sticks (22:08) – Practice, presence, gravitas (25:07) – Words of wisdom (26:55) – Money vs. meaning (29:20) – Your first customer (30:50) – Curiosity as a signal (31:50) – A gift for our listeners About Mark Mark Corbett is a purpose-driven founder, public speaker, and environmental consultant. He co-founded Thrust Carbon in 2019 to help the travel industry make smarter, data-driven climate decisions. Mark’s guiding line: “Working to create a better, more responsible world since ’08” frames his work at the intersection of impact, technology, and behavior change. He’s known for practical frameworks, high-energy storytelling, and a simple rule of thumb: "add more value." Connect with Mark and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn Resources mentioned in this episode: Zero to One – book by Peter Thiel. - - - - About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie: On LinkedIn Or on Instagram   Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd: On LinkedIn - - - - Liked it? Help us spread the word! If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life. Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    35 min
  6. 09/24/2025

    TSC Episode 2 - Authenticity, Travel, and the Currency of Connection with Lindsay Straub

    “Authenticity builds social capital, not transactions!” In this episode, we open with Lindsay’s real story: curiosity, optimism, and a love of people. From seeing networking as a slow burn (not a transaction) to the belief that “your network is your net worth”, Lindsay shares how travel creates lifetime connections and why authenticity is the only sustainable strategy. We also explore how AI fits into all this: “automate the ordinary to deliver the extraordinary”. When tech takes the admin off our plates, people get more time for human moments: the empathy, judgment, and care that matter most during disruptions and throughout the traveler journey. Episode timeline: (00:00) – Welcome & introductions (02:04) – Defining social capital (06:03) – Travel as a builder of social capital (07:49) – People who shaped her career (13:30) – Social codes across cultures (14:52) – AI, travel, and human relationships (20:27) – Blending business & leisure travel (22:42) – Traveler experience at FCM (25:08) – Next-gen travelers (26:55) - Wisdom to pass on (30:03) – A gift for listeners About Lindsay Straub Lindsay is a dynamic sales and people leader with a focus on enhancing corporate travel programs, growth, and customer acquisition. She brings more than 12 years of experience in corporate travel to her role at FCM Travel, where she oversees the company’s global sales strategy through key initiatives and innovative solutions. Prior to joining FCM in April 2024, she served as Vice President of Sales for the Business Travel News (BTN) Group, managing a diverse portfolio of B2B media and event products. Lindsay is a member of the GBTA Ladders Advisory Board, was named to GBTA WINiT’s Top 50 Women in Travel in 2022 and is a 2025 elected GBTA board member. She holds a double major in Public Relations and Journalism from Marist College. When she’s not on the road, Lindsay loves to travel, explore new restaurants, and play golf — though she’ll admit her score doesn’t always reflect her passion for the game. Connect with Lindsay and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn  - - - - About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie On LinkedIn or on Instagram Connect your Tahnee, your AI resident nerd On LinkedIn - - - - If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review.  And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    33 min
  7. 09/16/2025

    TSC Episode 1 - Why Social Capital Fuels Business with Paul Tilstone

    “You have to keep topping up your social capital” In our inaugural episode of The Social Currency (T$C), we welcome Paul Tilstone, founder of temoji and one of the most respected voices in business travel. Paul joins us to talk about social and intellectual capital: what they mean, why they matter, and how to nurture them in business and life. From walk-and-talk meetings to lessons learned while traveling in Saudi Arabia, Paul shares personal stories about connection, trust, and how travel reshapes perspectives. We also dig into the role of technology, including AI, inbalancing efficiency with building human relationships. Episode timeline: (00:00) Welcome & introductions (00:30) Who is Paul, really? (01:50) What is social & intellectual capital? (04:15) Do we spend enough time building social capital? (05:45) Rethinking the business meeting format (08:50) Stories from the road (12:05) Tech vs. people (15:55) The people who inspire Paul (17:45) Lessons to pass on (21:40) A parting gift   About Paul Tilstone: Paul started his career 30 years ago in Travel Management Company sales and marketing, moving to CEO for the UK & Ireland’s Institute of Travel & Management (ITM) in 2005.  He launched the Global Business Travel Association (GBTA) in Europe in 2010, moving to SVP Global Development in 2012 with a brief to develop GBTA regions outside of the USA. Hewas a co-founder of specialist consultancy Festive Road and is founder of specialist travel and meetings supplier consultancy “temoji”. Paul has been twice listed as one of the world’s top 25 business travel industry influencers by the Business Travel News, USA. Connect with Paul and grow your social capital! On LinkedIn Website: https://www.temoji.co.uk/   About your hosts: Connect with Aurélie, your Work From Anywhere techie: On LinkedIn | On Instagram Connect with Tahnee, your resident AI nerd: On LinkedIn - - - - - - If this story resonated with you, share it with your people, subscribe and leave a review. And most importantly, reach out to someone who made a difference in your life! Because THIS is how you grow your social capital!

    25 min

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Your voice and your network are your superpowers. Welcome to The Social Currency! In each episode, Tahnee, your resident AI nerd & Aurelie, the Work From Anywhere techie welcome a guest and share real stories of connection, trust, and the relationships that shape our lives.