Ready to go for a ride? We’re covering some ground today: Two co-hosts. Reminiscing about four moments in their lives. Rapid fire (well, rapid fire with tangents). I think you’ll pick up the format pretty quickly, but the basic idea is that we each remembered back to when we were 5, 15, 25 and 35 and reflected on who, during that time, was our model for how to be a man or a woman. As we yelled out loud (with airhorn) on the episode… IT’S A JOINT REFLECTIVE EXERCISE. You know what was interesting about this? Just about everything. The two of us know each other pretty darn well. And yet, we were surprised and intrigued in a new way. Should you try this with your friends? Oh yeah. And as Sarah mentioned, we also wouldn’t hate it if you wanted to share some of these reflections with us as well. Topics discussed: Claire Danes, the 1987 Jefferson County (Montana) Cross Country Team, trying on your mom’s clothes, vicarious keg stands, older siblings, the motherhood internet, our moms, our dads, literally taking bites out of Infinite Jest, and of course, getting knocked down, and getting up again, because you’re never gonna keep us down. Links: * An Instagram reel (from Garrett) about what he packs for kids at his speaking events. * If you’re ever in Oakland when Sarah and her husband are hosting trivia, you should go! * Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot by Caramba (a real song!) * Edge of Seventeen by Stevie Nicks (a much better remembered real song!). * The trailer for Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (since you don’t have the opportunity to watch the 1987 Jefferson High School Cross Country video). * WMFO at Tufts University (sadly “talkin’ about women” is no longer on the air). * The intro scene to My So-Called Life. * A reflection on how— contrary to Garrett’s one-degree removed fantasy— the late ‘90s Missoula, Montana literary punk scene might have been easier for young men than women. * The woman who is eating Infinite Jest * The Barbie scene about men explaining Pavement to women. * Madison, Wisconsin’s undergrad party scene (not pictured: Steve). * Circa 2008 Lily Allen profile (the Guardian, of course). * Steven Hyden’s fatherhood-focused profile of Kanye West for Grantland (note: this is a CIRCA 2013 KANYE WEST… a lot hadn’t happened yet!). * Alyssa Liu’s dad, very proud but also thinking about his fathering life and realizing he could have made some different choices (relatable!). * Sarah is right— everybody loves Kip’s dad from Heated Rivalry. * A wonderful tribute to the Mel-O-Dee karaoke night in El Cerrito. More: * This Week In Breeders is a podcast! And you can listen to it wherever you like to listen to podcasts (Apple; Spotify; the very feminism-friendly DJ booth at Tufts University in the late 1990s, etc.). * But if you really want to stay updated, you should go to thisweekinbreeders.org and subscribe, so that you get episodes delivered directly to your inbox. * And then, after you do so, you should be like “but now I really want to support this podcast, and I’d also love to listen to their bonus episodes, like the recent one where Sarah Wheeler shared what snacks she sneaks into movies and also asked Garrett “‘so, does your wife dress you?'” opt for a paid subscription. * Or maybe you want another way to help us out, which is very kind of you. Would you consider dropping us one of those five star reviews on your preferred podcast app? Or telling your friends? Thank you! * In every case, thanks for being here, pals! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thisweekinbreeders.org/subscribe