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Charlie Charly

Diving Deep Podcast with Charlie and Charly dive deep into subjects that some people aren't willing to discover, because they are unwilling to hear the truth. "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - 2 Timothy 4:4

  1. 20h ago

    Reading the Book of Esther Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 35

    In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring the Book of Esther through two very different lenses: the traditional interpretation found in Judaism and modern Christianity, and the symbolic, spiritual framework taught in New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka. The Book of Esther tells the story of a Jewish woman who becomes queen of Persia and risks her life to save her people from destruction. Traditionally, the story is understood as a powerful account of courage, providence, identity, justice, and deliverance. In Judaism, Esther is known as the Megillah, one of the Five Scrolls in the Ketuvim, and it is central to the celebration of Purim. In Christianity, the book is often seen as an example of God working behind the scenes, even though His name is never explicitly mentioned. But what if the Book of Esther was describing an inner spiritual struggle? What if Esther represents hidden truth coming into the open? What if Mordecai symbolizes discernment and faithfulness, while Haman represents pride, ego, deception, or the carnal mind? What if the reversal of Haman’s plot reveals a deeper principle in which falsehood ultimately destroys itself? And what if the hiddenness of God in Esther points to a spiritual reality that is present even when it cannot be seen outwardly? Throughout this discussion, we compare how Judaism, Christianity, and Tyler Doka’s broader teachings approach the major people, events, and themes in Esther. We also explore thematic parallels with Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism, including courage, righteous action, resisting oppression, humility, ego, justice, providence, and the consequences of harmful intentions. Together, we examine Vashti’s removal, Esther’s rise to queenship, Mordecai’s loyalty, Haman’s plot, Esther’s courageous decision to approach the king, the dramatic reversal of Haman’s plan, the deliverance of the Jewish people, and the establishment of Purim. Whether you read Esther as history or symbolically, this episode invites you to consider a deeper question: Is Esther only the story of a queen who saved her people, or does it also reveal what happens within us when truth must overcome fear, pride, and deception? Works discussed in this episode: The King James Bible The Hebrew Bible (Ketuvim/Megillah) New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka The New Jerusalem Podcast The Qur’an Hindu teachings Buddhist teachings Sikh teachings #Esther #BookOfEsther #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #Judaism #Christianity #Megillah #Purim #BiblicalSymbolism #CarnallyVsSpiritually #SpiritualInterpretation

    Reading the Book of Esther Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 35
  2. Aug 14

    Reading the Book of Nehemiah Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 34

    In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring the Book of Nehemiah through two distinct lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity and Judaism, and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation presented in New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka. Most readers know Nehemiah as the inspiring story of a faithful leader who left the comfort of the Persian palace to rebuild the broken walls of Jerusalem. Alongside Ezra, Nehemiah helped restore God's people after the Babylonian exile, renewing the covenant, reforming the community, and calling Israel back to faithful worship. Traditionally, the book is understood as a powerful account of leadership, perseverance, repentance, and God's faithfulness in restoring His people. But what if Nehemiah is describing something more than the rebuilding of an ancient city? What if Jerusalem represents the inner life of the believer? What if the broken walls symbolize a life left vulnerable through spiritual neglect? What if rebuilding the walls represents restoring faith, truth, and spiritual discernment? What if Sanballat and Tobiah represent the voices of fear, compromise, and opposition that seek to prevent spiritual growth? And what if Ezra's reading of the Law points to the restoration of God's Word within the heart? Throughout this conversation, we compare how Christianity, Judaism, and Tyler Doka interpret the major people, events, and symbols found in the Book of Nehemiah. We examine Nehemiah's prayer, the rebuilding of Jerusalem's walls, the opposition from surrounding nations, economic justice, covenant renewal, national repentance, the dedication of the walls, and Nehemiah's final reforms. Along the way, we discuss timeless themes of leadership, obedience, perseverance, community, restoration, and spiritual renewal. Together, we ask whether Nehemiah is simply preserving the history of Israel's return from exile or revealing a deeper spiritual pattern that continues to unfold within every believer seeking to rebuild what has been broken. Whether you understand Nehemiah as history, symbolism, or a combination of both, this episode invites you to consider a profound question: Are the walls of Jerusalem merely stones rebuilt in the ancient world, or do they symbolize God's ongoing work of rebuilding the heart, renewing the mind, and restoring the spiritual life of His people today? Citations New Jerusalem by Tyler Dokahttps://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠New Jerusalem on Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvLKing James Bible⁠https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org #Nehemiah #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #Christianity #Judaism #Tanakh #Jerusalem #Restoration #Leadership #BiblicalSymbolism #CarnallyVsSpiritually #SpiritualInterpretation

    Reading the Book of Nehemiah Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 34
  3. Aug 7

    Reading the Book of Ezra: Carnally vs. Spiritually, Ep 33

    What happens when the Book of Ezra is read as a historical account of Israel's return from exile versus a spiritual story about personal restoration and transformation? In this episode, we explore the Book of Ezra through multiple lenses, comparing the traditional Jewish understanding, the Christian Old Testament perspective, and the spiritual interpretation taught by Tyler Doka. Together, our hosts examine the rebuilding of the Temple, the return from Babylon, the leadership of Zerubbabel and Ezra, the people's repentance, and the challenges faced during restoration. Is Ezra primarily about rebuilding a physical Temple in Jerusalem? Or does the story point to a deeper, inner restoration of the human heart and mind? What do Judaism and Christianity teach about covenant faithfulness, worship, obedience, and God's providence? How does a spiritual interpretation understand exile, Jerusalem, and the Temple as symbols of an internal journey? Using extensive quotations from the King James Bible, this conversation invites listeners to think deeply about the meaning of restoration, leadership, repentance, faith, and hope. Along the way, the hosts share stories, practical examples, humor, and thoughtful discussion while respectfully exploring areas of agreement and disagreement between these different approaches to Scripture. Whether you're interested in biblical history, Jewish tradition, Christian theology, spiritual symbolism, or the bigger question of what it means to rebuild after loss, this episode offers a fascinating journey through one of the Bible's most important restoration narratives. Topics Covered: Cyrus' decree and the return from exile Rebuilding the altar and the Temple Opposition, perseverance, and faith Ezra's mission and leadership Repentance and national renewal Judaism's view of Ezra-Nehemiah Christian teachings on restoration and covenant Tyler Doka's spiritual interpretation of the Temple, kingdom, and restoration The difference between reading Ezra "carnally" and "spiritually" Key Question: Is the Book of Ezra telling the story of a restored nation, a restored faith, a restored people, or is it about restoring your inner self? Citations New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠ New Jerusalem on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL  King James Bible ⁠https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org

    Reading the Book of Ezra: Carnally vs. Spiritually, Ep 33
  4. Jul 31

    Reading the Book of Chronicles Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 32

    In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring 1 Chronicles and 2 Chronicles through two very different lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity and Judaism (Ketuvim of the Tanakh), and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation taught in New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka. At first glance, Chronicles may seem like a retelling of Israel's history, filled with long genealogies, kings, priests, temple worship, and the rise and fall of a nation. Traditionally, these books preserve the lineage of David, reaffirm God's covenant with Israel, highlight the central role of the Temple, and offer hope to God's people after the Babylonian exile. But what if Chronicles is more than a historical record? What if the genealogies reveal the progression of spiritual identity rather than simply family history? What if David represents spiritual understanding, Solomon embodies divine wisdom, the Temple symbolizes the dwelling place of God within, and the faithful and unfaithful kings portray the ongoing struggle between truth and deception in the human heart? What if exile represents separation from truth, while restoration points to spiritual renewal and reconciliation with God? Throughout this conversation, we compare how Christianity, Judaism, and Tyler Doka interpret the major people, events, and symbols found in First Chronicles and Second Chronicles. We examine the Davidic Covenant, Solomon's Temple, the ministries of the priests and Levites, the reigns of Judah's kings, Manasseh's remarkable repentance, and the promise of restoration that concludes the Chronicler's message. Together, we ask whether these books are simply preserving Israel's past or revealing timeless spiritual patterns that continue to shape every generation. Along the way, we explore themes of covenant, worship, leadership, repentance, hope, and the Kingdom of God, inviting listeners to consider both the historical and symbolic dimensions of Scripture. Whether you understand Chronicles as history, symbolism, or a combination of both, this episode invites you to reflect on a profound question: Are the genealogies, kings, and Temple merely records of Israel's past, or do they reveal an ongoing spiritual journey unfolding within every human being today? Works discussed in this episode: The King James Bible New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka The New Jerusalem Podcast The Tanakh (Ketuvim) #FirstChronicles #SecondChronicles #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #Christianity #Judaism #Ketuvim #Temple #David #Solomon #BiblicalSymbolism #CarnallyVsSpiritually #SpiritualInterpretation

    Reading the Book of Chronicles Carnally vs Spiritually Ep 32
  5. Jul 17

    Reading the Book of Kings Carnally vs. Spiritually Ep 31

    In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring the Books of 1 Kings and 2 Kings through two very different lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity, Catholicism, and Judaism (Melakhim), and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation taught in New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka. Most readers know the Books of Kings as the history of Israel's monarchs, from the extraordinary wisdom of King Solomon and the construction of the Temple, to the powerful ministries of Elijah and Elisha, the rise and fall of kingdoms, Israel's exile, and the hope of restoration. These books are traditionally understood as historical accounts that reveal God's covenant with Israel, the consequences of obedience and disobedience, and the enduring role of prophets in calling God's people back to faithfulness. But what if these stories are describing something deeper? What if Solomon represents spiritual wisdom rather than merely a historical king? What if Elijah symbolizes revealed truth confronting deception? What if Baal worship represents false beliefs and worldly doctrines instead of simply ancient idolatry? What if the divided kingdom reflects the divided human mind, exile symbolizes separation from truth, and restoration represents returning to spiritual understanding? Throughout this discussion, we compare how Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, and Tyler Doka interpret the major people, events, and symbols found in the Books of Kings. We also explore fascinating thematic parallels with Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism, examining how wisdom, leadership, humility, false worship, repentance, spiritual transformation, and the rise and fall of kingdoms appear across many of the world's great religious traditions. Together, we examine Solomon's request for wisdom, the building of the Temple, Elijah's confrontation with the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel, the miracles of Elisha, the division of Israel and Judah, the corruption of kings, the exile of God's people, and the promise of restoration. Along the way, we ask whether these narratives describe only the history of ancient Israel or whether they also reveal timeless spiritual patterns that continue to unfold within every person. Whether you understand the Books of Kings as history, symbolism, or a combination of both, this episode invites you to consider a profound question: Are the kings, prophets, and kingdoms of Israel merely ancient figures and events from the past, or do they represent the ongoing struggle between wisdom and deception, truth and falsehood, within each of us today? Sources referenced in this episode: The King James BibleNew Jerusalem by Tyler DokaThe New Jerusalem PodcastThe Tanakh (Melakhim)The Qur'anThe MahabharataThe RamayanaBuddhist teachingsSikh teachings New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠ New Jerusalem on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL  King James Bible ⁠https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org  #FirstKings #SecondKings #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #Christianity #Judaism #Islam #Hinduism #Buddhism #Sikhism #Solomon #Elijah #Elisha #BiblicalSymbolism #CarnallyVsSpiritually

    Reading the Book of Kings Carnally vs. Spiritually Ep 31
  6. Jul 10

    Reading the Book of Samuel Carnally vs Spiritually, Ep 30

    In this episode, we continue our deep dive through the King James Bible by exploring the Books of 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel through two very different lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity, Catholicism, and Judaism, and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation taught in New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka.Most readers know Samuel as the story of Israel's transition from judges to kings. It introduces the prophet Samuel, the rise and fall of King Saul, the anointing of David, the battle with Goliath, the establishment of the Davidic Kingdom, and some of the most famous stories in all of Scripture. Traditionally, these accounts are understood as historical events that shaped the nation of Israel and laid the foundation for the coming of Christ.But what if these stories are describing something deeper?What if Samuel represents spiritual discernment? What if Saul symbolizes the carnal mind driven by fear, pride, and self-will? What if David represents spiritual understanding overcoming false beliefs? What if Goliath is not merely a giant warrior, but a symbol of the obstacles, doubts, and strongholds that stand against truth?Throughout this conversation, we compare how Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, and Tyler Doka interpret the major events and symbols found in First Samuel and Second Samuel. We also explore fascinating thematic parallels with Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism, examining how leadership, humility, repentance, divine calling, and the struggle between ego and truth appear across religious traditions.Together, we discuss the rise and fall of Saul, David's confrontation with Goliath, the Davidic Covenant, David and Bathsheba, Absalom's rebellion, and the deeper meaning of kingship, prophecy, anointing, and the Kingdom of God.Whether you view Samuel as history, symbolism, or a combination of both, this episode invites you to consider a profound question:Are Samuel, Saul, and David merely ancient figures from the past, or are they patterns that continue to exist within every human being today?Sources referenced in this episode:The King James BibleNew Jerusalem by Tyler DokaThe Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)The Qur'anThe MahabharataThe RamayanaBuddhist teachingsSikh teachings Citations New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠ New Jerusalem on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL  King James Bible ⁠https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org   #FirstSamuel #SecondSamuel #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #Christianity #Judaism #Catholicism #SpiritualInterpretation #DavidAndGoliath #KingSaul #KingDavid #BiblicalSymbolism #CarnallyVsSpiritually

    Reading the Book of Samuel Carnally vs Spiritually, Ep 30
  7. Jul 3

    Reading the Book of Ruth Carnally vs Spiritually, Ep 29

    In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring the Book of Ruth through two very different lenses: the carnal traditional interpretation taught in modern Christianity and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation as intended by God through the teachings of Tyler Doka. Most readers know Ruth as a beautiful story of loyalty, redemption, and divine providence. It is the account of a Moabite woman who leaves her homeland, remains faithful to her mother-in-law Naomi, finds favor with Boaz, and ultimately becomes part of the lineage of King David and Jesus Christ. But what if the Book of Ruth was never a historical account? What if Ruth represents the soul seeking truth? What if Moab symbolizes separation from understanding, Bethlehem represents spiritual nourishment, and Boaz reveals a deeper picture of redemption that takes place within? Together, we examine key passages from the King James Bible and compare how they are commonly understood versus through a spiritual lens. Along the way, we discuss themes such as loyalty, covenant, redemption, inheritance, faith, spiritual transformation, and the journey from separation into truth. Whether you view Ruth as carnal history or symbolically, this conversation invites you to look deeper and ask an important question: Are we reading the Book of Ruth as a story that supposedly happened in the past, or is it really a story that represents what happens within? Sources referenced in this episode: New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠ New Jerusalem on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL  King James Bible https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org   TARTARIA: Is All Of Recorded History A Lie?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwC-qwgNzA  #BookOfRuth #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #SpiritualInterpretation #Christianity #BiblicalSymbolism #Ruth #Boaz #Naomi #CarnallyVsSpiritually

    Reading the Book of Ruth Carnally vs Spiritually, Ep 29
  8. Jun 26

    Reading the Book of Judges Carnally vs. Spiritually Ep 28

    Charlie and Charly continue this series through each book of the King James Bible by turning their focus to the Book of Judges, a powerful and deeply symbolic book that chronicles Israel’s repeated cycle of sin, oppression, repentance, and deliverance. In this episode, the Book of Judges is explored through two distinct lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity, Catholicism, and the Hebrew Bible, and the symbolic spiritual interpretation taught by Tyler Doka in New Jerusalem and his podcast teachings.  Traditionally, Judges is understood as the historical story of Israel after the death of Joshua, a nation repeatedly falling into idolatry, suffering oppression from surrounding nations, and being rescued by judges raised up by God. But according to Tyler’s framework, these stories are not merely external events or military conflicts. Instead, they describe the unseen spiritual condition within man.  We examine the major stories and figures of Judges, including: Othniel Ehud and King Eglon Deborah and Barak Gideon and the 300 Jephthah’s vow Samson and Delilah  Each story is analyzed from both perspectives: The carnal reading, where Israel battles physical enemies and experiences historical events The spiritual reading, where the battles represent internal warfare, spiritual blindness, deception, temptation, and awakening to truth  The episode also explores Tyler Doka’s repeated teaching that: The natural man reads Scripture carnally The true battlefield is spiritual rather than physical The Bible describes the unseen reality within man Throughout the discussion, the hosts compare: Physical enemies vs spiritual blindness Military conflict vs internal struggle National Israel vs the inner man External deliverance vs spiritual awakening Citations New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka ⁠ New Jerusalem on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL  King James Bible ⁠https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org

    Reading the Book of Judges Carnally vs. Spiritually Ep 28
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Diving Deep Podcast with Charlie and Charly dive deep into subjects that some people aren't willing to discover, because they are unwilling to hear the truth. "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - 2 Timothy 4:4