Church Staff Book Club

Jonathan Malm
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A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.

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  1. Episode 1

    Are You Planning to Fail?

    Every leader fails. The question isn't whether it'll happen... it's what you do with it when it does. In this episode of the Church Staff Book Club, Jonathan Malm and Jason Young kick off their third book: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. Chapter 1 reframes the way leaders think about failure. From something to avoid at all costs to something that, when handled well, actually pays you back. 🎧 What We Cover in This Episode: Why most people treat failure as final and why that's costing themThe difference between you failing and being a failureWhy avoiding failure has a cost too (and we rarely count it)Small risks vs. big risks: the fencing approach to leadershipJason's story: 210 volunteers quit in one day and what happened nextWhy school is actually the safest place to fail (and we've made it terrifying)Planning for failure: anti-faith or just smart leadership?What your first reaction to failure reveals vs. what you do nextThe Moses principle: why God rarely gives you the full picture up front📖 We're Reading: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. 💬 Key Quotes from This Episode: "You are not a failure. That thing you did might have failed, but that's not your identity." "Your first reaction to failure is the human part of you. What you do next is the leadership part." "If we don't take risks, things naturally decline." 🔗 Connect & Subscribe: Follow us on social media and join the conversation Subscribe so you never miss a chapter Grab How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell and read along with us

    33 min

  2. Episode 2

    Success Can Actually Hurt Your Future

    We talk a lot about learning from failure. But what about success? It might be quietly doing more damage than you think. In this episode of the Church Staff Book Club, Jonathan Malm and Jason Young dig into Chapter 2 of How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell. The big idea: success and failure don't belong in isolation, and when we treat them that way, both become dangerous. 🎧 What We Cover in This Episode: Why success can deceive you just as much as failure can discourage youThe danger of "I am a success" vs. "I am a failure" and why both are wrongWhy the most successful people are sometimes the worst ones to write the bookHow repeated success quietly causes you to misalign your values and your whyWhy churches struggle to define success and how failure helps realign itThe importance of doing an autopsy on your wins, not just your lossesJonathan's story: the tuxedo skit that nobody learned anything fromJason's honest confession: falling into the identity trap with book reviewsTwo practical tools to evaluate success and failure: Five Whys and KaizenThe quarterly journal idea for tracking your team's progress like a scoreboard📖 We're Reading: How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell Follow along chapter by chapter with us! 💬 Key Quotes from This Episode: "I am a success is just as dangerous as I am a failure." "Success can inflate your ego. Failure attacks it. How do you live inside both?" A bad day doesn't make you a bad leader." 🛠 Free Tools Coming: Jonathan and Jason are building individual and team debriefing tools based on this conversation. Download them at churchstaffbookclub.com 🔗 Connect & Subscribe: Follow us on social media and join the conversation Subscribe so you never miss a chapter Grab How to Get a Return on Failure by John Maxwell and read along with us

    32 min
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A podcast for church leaders who want to grow but don’t have time to read every book. Join authors Jonathan Malm and Jason Young as they break down leadership books chapter by chapter, sharing practical insights and real-life ministry applications along the way. Whether you’re reading along or just listening in, this is your go-to resource for becoming a better leader... One conversation at a time.

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  • Creator
    Jonathan Malm
  • Episodes
    22
  • Seasons
    3
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Jonathan Malm
  • Show Website
    Church Staff Book Club

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