Summary In this engaging conversation, Scott Eckart interviews Stephen Casscles, a prominent figure in the world of winemaking and grape research. They delve into the history of grape varieties, particularly focusing on French hybrids and their significance in the American wine industry. The discussion covers the impact of climate change on grape growing, the legacy of Philip Wagner in promoting hybrids, and the ongoing battle between hybrid and vinifera grapes. Casclase shares insights from his extensive research and experiences, highlighting the evolving perception of hybrid grapes and their potential in modern winemaking. In this conversation, Joseph Stephen Casscles shares insights into grape breeding, the potential of hybrid grapes, and the art of blending wines. He reflects on the legacy of influential grape breeders, discusses the challenges and opportunities in viticulture, and emphasizes the importance of propagating unique grape varieties. The conversation also touches on the evolving landscape of wine production, the significance of hybrid wines, and Casscles' upcoming projects and publications. Takeaways Stephen Casscles is a leading expert on grape varieties and climate change. Climate change has significantly altered grape-growing conditions since the 1970s. The history of French hybrids is deeply intertwined with the phylloxera crisis. Philip Wagner played a crucial role in promoting French hybrids in the U.S. The battle between hybrid and vinifera grapes has shaped the wine industry in the U.S. Hybrids were initially dismissed but are gaining recognition for their potential. The perception of hybrid grapes is changing due to climate adaptability. Modern winemaking techniques can elevate the quality of hybrid wines. The future of grape growing may rely on hybrids due to changing climates. There is a resurgence of interest in Native American grape varieties. Joseph Stephen Casscles has a deep connection with grape breeders. Hybrid grapes are gaining recognition for their potential. Blending wines can enhance flavor profiles and complexity. The viticulture landscape is evolving, especially in the Midwest. Unique grape varieties are waiting to be discovered and propagated. The art of winemaking involves creativity and experimentation. There is a growing market for hybrid wines in North America. Joseph is working on a new book about historical grape nurseries. Joseph emphasizes the importance of sharing knowledge and resources in viticulture. Keywords Stephen Casscles, wine, grapes, climate change, French hybrids, Philip Wagner, vinifera, hybridization, Hudson River Valley, wine industry, grape breeding, hybrid grapes, viticulture, wine blending, wine production, grape varieties, wine making, Eastern Winery Expo, wine resources, wine culture Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Stephen Casclase and His Work 02:50 The Impact of Climate Change on Grape Growing 05:54 The History of French Hybrids and Their Development 11:49 The Phylloxera Crisis and Its Consequences 17:56 The Split Between Rootstock Solutions and Hybridization 23:56 The Political Landscape of French Wine Production 29:48 Philip Wagner's Influence on American Viticulture 30:08 The Quest for Food-Friendly Wines 31:33 The Battle of Wine Varieties 33:17 Reviving Native American Grapes 35:06 The Impact of Commercial Wineries 36:35 The Evolution of Wine Grapes Post-WWII 39:58 Climate Change and New Opportunities 42:16 The Legacy of Pioneering Winemakers 44:43 Modern Trends in Hybrid Grapes 49:23 The Future of Winemaking in the Midwest 51:37 The Challenge of Winemaking 54:07 Propagating Unique Grape Varieties 56:45 Exploring French Hybrid Wines 01:00:47 Upcoming Projects and Publications 01:06:13 Traveling to Europe and Cultural Connections