Onc Nurse on Call

Oncology Nursing News

Onc Nurse on Call is bi-weekly oncology nursing podcast by Oncology Nursing News delivering practical strategies, expert insights, and real-world tips you can use in oncology practice anytime, anywhere. Learn about immunotherapy, targeted therapy, survivorship care, resilience, and other critical topics from experienced oncology nurses and guest experts.

  1. FEB 4

    Differentiating Denial From Coping Mechanisms in Oncology

    Welcome to Onc Nurse On Call, the new podcast from Oncology Nursing News, hosted by editors-in-chief Patricia Jakel, MN, RN, AOCN, and Stephanie Desrosiers, DNP, MSN, RN, AOCNS, BMTCN, delivering maximum impact in minimum time. This week Kelly Grosklags, LICSW, BCD, FAAGC, FT, shares advice for oncology nurses and advanced practice providers (APPs) dealing with grief at the end of patients’ lives. Grosklags, founder of Conversations With Kelly, explained that patients perceived as being in “denial” of their prognosis are often in need of someone to listen to them, or they are perceived that way as a result of a provider requiring closure of the patient. Patients who seem unable to approach conversations about the end of life may simply need a conversation about why that is the case. “Sometimes our psyche can’t take in all this information at once, so we have to compartmentalize it,” said Grosklags. “I’ve never met a patient who…looked like they were denying something that didn’t at some point acknowledge it. You have to acknowledge something to deny it.” Understanding the mindset of these patients, Grosklags said, may take stepping back and recontextualizing the patient’s experiences. “Is this part of my own agenda as a provider that I need them to be able to talk about this?” asked Grosklags. “Why am I so activated by this patient and their ‘inability’ to [acknowledge their prognosis]?”

    21 min
  2. JAN 21

    The Responsibility to Be Honest With Patients With Cancer

    Welcome to Onc Nurse On Call, the new podcast from Oncology Nursing News, hosted by editors-in-chief Patricia Jakel, MN, RN, AOCN, and Stephanie Desrosiers (formerly Jackson), DNP, MSN, RN, AOCNS, BMTCN, delivering maximum impact in minimum time. This week, social worker Kelly Grosklags, LICSW, BCD, FAAGC, FT, founder of Conversations With Kelly, shared advice for dealing with difficult conversations and false hope in the care of patients with cancer. The inspiration for her work, Grosklags said, comes from losing her mother when she was 11. While her mother, in her thirties at the time, suffered from heart disease, her young age caused clinicians to approach her care with an emphasis solely on lengthening her lifespan, rather than making the most of the reality her family was faced with. “The whole goal was to keep her going, keep her going—and no one wanted to talk about the hard stuff,” Grosklags recalled. Further, some patients develop what Grosklags referred to as “good patient syndrome,” where they fear exposing their care team to the emotional burden of difficult conversations around death and try to shield them from these by acting as if they don’t need them. Grosklags stressed that hope is cyclical and can occur at any stage of a patient’s care, even at the end of life. The goal of care may not always be cure; it may evolve to become other milestones, like seeing a child graduate high school. “Part of our job as social workers, as physicians—as anybody working in oncology—is to help introduce patients to that evolution-of-hope cycle.”

    19 min
  3. 12/10/2025

    Practical Tactics and Patient Trust With an Integrative Oncology PA

    Onc Nurse On Call is the new podcast by Oncology Nursing News, hosted by editors-in-chief Patricia Jakel, MN, RN, AOCN, and Stephanie Desrosiers (formerly Jackson), DNP, MSN, RN, AOCNS, BMTCN, delivering maximum impact in minimum time.  This week, our hosts sit down with Lillian Rodich, PA-C, MPH, an integrative oncology physician assistant at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center Bendheim Integrative Medicine Center in New York, New York. She also touches on how to talk to patients about outside herbs and other supplements, emphasizing that being open to discussing these with patients—and finding out for patients whether there may be interactions between the herb and the patient’s treatment instead of rejecting the topic—can build trust with patients and make them feel more comfortable being transparent with providers. Particularly, Memorial Sloan Kettering’s integrative services have a website and mobile application called “About Herbs,” which serves as a database for identifying whether an herb or supplement will have interactions with a patient’s medications. Rodich explained that there are ways to make integrative medicine more accessible to patients, regardless of what their insurance they have or what their financial situation is. “Integrative medicine shouldn’t be for the privileged few," says Rodich. "It should be standard-of-care practice for all patients, no matter where they’re receiving care.”

    26 min

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Onc Nurse on Call is bi-weekly oncology nursing podcast by Oncology Nursing News delivering practical strategies, expert insights, and real-world tips you can use in oncology practice anytime, anywhere. Learn about immunotherapy, targeted therapy, survivorship care, resilience, and other critical topics from experienced oncology nurses and guest experts.