EV Insider by Recurrent

Recurrent

EV Insider is the trusted intersection between owners and the car market. Leaders from across the industry join the podcast to share insights and help EV owners make smart decisions when buying and selling electric cars. 

Episodes

  1. 4D AGO

    Subaru Finally Has Serious EV Contenders with Jeff Miller

    Jeff Miller is crushing it with Subaru's Solterra EV—and he's not shy about why his competitors aren't. As CEO of Mark Miller's Subaru in Salt Lake City, Jeff sold 124 Solterras while the other three Subaru stores in his market combined have sold just 35.  The difference? Commitment.  In this episode, Jeff shares how his dealership leaned into EVs when others wouldn't, why he believes range anxiety is "retailer-driven," and the creative financing strategies (like one-pay leases) that are helping customers navigate the post-rebate world. What We Cover: Why Subaru's EV strategy has been "very slow" and what's changing How Jeff's dealership sells 3.5x more Solterras than competitors combined The surprising Tesla sales split: down 60% in liberal Salt Lake, up in conservative suburbs Why having staff and owners drive EVs matters more than advertising Range anxiety, infrastructure gaps, and the real barriers to EV adoption in Utah One-pay lease strategy: pay $15K instead of $40K upfront and protect against depreciation What's coming: Subaru's new Trail Seeker EV About Jeff Miller: Fourth-generation auto retailer and CEO of Mark Miller's Subaru Midtown and South Town in Salt Lake City. Jeff has been driving a Solterra for three years and believes EVs are "the absolute perfect car" for most daily drivers. Links: 🔋 Learn more about EV Insider: https://www.recurrentauto.com/about/ev-insider 📊 Check your EV's battery health: https://www.recurrentauto.com

    22 min
  2. JAN 27

    Used EV Boom Is Coming with Danny Papakalos

    What if the future of EV adoption doesn’t start with new cars — but with used ones? In this EV Insider episode, Scott Case sits down with Danny Papakalos, Corporate Director of Pre-Owned Operations at #1 Cochran, the largest automotive retailer in Western Pennsylvania. Danny has a unique view: his job only lives in the pre-owned space, and he believes used EVs will be the single biggest growth opportunity in 2026 and beyond. Danny explains why EV loyalty is shockingly strong, how affordability is about to shift millions of shoppers toward used EVs, and why the industry urgently needs to rethink how it markets batteries, range, and long-term cost of ownership. In this episode: Why suburbs are becoming EV hotbeds in Pittsburgh.  The “EV infectious disease effect”: how one EV in a neighborhood leads to six or seven.  Why once buyers try EVs, they never go back — and what that means for future loyalty.  How the used EV market mirrors the early success of Lexus Certified Pre-Owned — and why that analogy matters.  The affordability crisis coming in 2026 — and why used EVs will solve it for millions of shoppers.  How #1 Cochran evaluates used EVs, where they place them, and why the brand rooftop doesn’t matter.  The battery perception problem, and how education — not incentives — is the key to mass adoption.  Why 3–5 year-old EVs still have 90–95% battery health, and why dealers should be shouting this from the rooftops.  Danny’s blueprint for the perfect EV ad: peace of mind, future cost, and clarity. Whether you’re a shopper, dealer, or industry analyst, this is one of the clearest, most compelling frameworks for understanding how used EVs will transform the market. 👉 Subscribe for more EV market insights every week. 👉 Learn more at recurrentauto.com

    19 min
  3. JAN 13

    $19 EV Leases and the Best Time to Buy an EV with Fred Emich

    Colorado has been one of the hottest EV markets in the country. At one point offering deals so aggressive that shoppers were leasing EVs for $19 a month. But now the incentives are gone, the “big beautiful bill” is behind us, and the entire region is entering a new chapter of EV adoption. In this episode of EV Insider, Scott Case sits down with Fred Emich, owner of four Colorado dealerships (Volkswagen, Kia, and Chevrolet) to unpack what really happened in Colorado’s EV surge — and what’s coming next for EV shoppers and the used EV market. In this episode: How Colorado’s combination of $7,500 federal + $5,000 state incentives created some of the most compelling EV deals in the U.S. — including $19/month ID.4 leases.  Why Colorado’s EV boom “drained the swamp” in Q3, and what sales look like now that incentives have sunset.  Why used EV sales at Emich Auto Group are up 50%+ year-over-year even after rebates disappeared.  The unexpected winners in the used EV market — including ID.4s, Audi Q6, and even the occasional Cybertruck.  Why so many two-year EV lessees are returning their cars only to buy… the exact same car again, but used.  The real story behind the ID. Buzz hype vs. sales numbers — from stop-sale recalls to tariff impacts.  What Fred believes EV shoppers must understand in a post-rebate world — and why “the party isn’t over; it’s just quieter.”  If you want a no-BS, on-the-ground perspective from a dealer who’s been EV-first for years, this episode is a masterclass in how incentives, charging, customer behavior, and used EV economics really work. ► Subscribe for more EV market insights for shoppers, dealers, and analysts. ► Learn more about Recurrent: recurrentauto.com

    24 min
  4. JAN 7

    Solving EV Range Anxiety Isn't About Range with Parker Boice

    BMW is developing new EV models that could eliminate range anxiety once and for all. In this episode, Parker Boice, General Sales Manager at BMW and Mini of Utah, reveals details about the upcoming iX3—a vehicle delivering 400+ miles of range at $60,000, powered by BMW's sixth-generation battery technology. We explore how BMW's diversified approach—offering BEVs, plug-in hybrids, and gas vehicles—is serving customers in Utah's unique EV market. Parker shares fascinating insights about the legacy i3 (still popular despite 80-mile range), the current i4 and iX serving as primary vehicles, and how rapid innovation is transforming electric vehicle capabilities. Looking ahead to 2026, Parker predicts a massive wave of used EVs with the best technology ever hitting the market, creating exceptional buying opportunities. We also discuss the challenges and strategies for transitioning current EV lessees into their next vehicles. 🎙️ TOPICS COVERED: BMW iX3: 600-mile range, $60K price point, game-changing technology How the i3 remains relevant in today's used market Current EV adoption patterns in Utah 2026 predictions: The great used EV opportunity Managing EV lease returns and customer transitions Long-term outlook for EV adoption (2029-2030) The pace of battery innovation: 6 generations in a decade 📊 ABOUT EV INSIDER: EV Insider is produced by Scott Case and the team at Recurrent, bringing you authentic conversations with automotive dealers, executives, and industry insiders about the real challenges and opportunities of EV adoption. 🔗 LEARN MORE: Recurrent: https://www.recurrentauto.com EV Insider: https://www.recurrentauto.com/about/ev-insider

    25 min
  5. 12/18/2025

    Why EV Leasing Is A Double-Edged Sword with Jessica Caldwell

    The federal EV tax credit expired on September 30th, 2025. Did the market collapse? No, but it did reveal who's really buying electric vehicles and why. In this episode of EV Insider, host Scott Case sits down with Jessica Caldwell, AVP of Insights at Edmunds, to unpack what happened after the incentive ended and what it means for the future of EV adoption in America. What We Cover: ✅ The "EV Reset" – How consideration dropped 30% overnight (but didn't disappear) ✅ Why EV lease rates are STILL 60% (and why that might be a good thing) ✅ The surprise winner: Used EVs are selling faster than used gas cars ✅ What Jessica's watching in 2026: New models, Tesla drama, and the Nissan LEAF comeback ✅ The brand loyalty gap – Why EV buyers are up for grabs Key Insight: EV shoppers today are less payment-focused and more experience-driven than the lease-chasing cohort of late 2025. This shift could actually strengthen the market long-term. About Jessica Caldwell: Jessica leads the Insights team at Edmunds, one of the nation's leading automotive research and shopping platforms. With deep expertise in consumer behavior, market trends, and data analysis, she's become one of the most trusted voices on the EV transition. About EV Insider: EV Insider is a podcast from Recurrent exploring the real stories behind electric vehicle adoption—from the dealers selling them to the analysts tracking the market. Hosted by Scott Case.

    22 min

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EV Insider is the trusted intersection between owners and the car market. Leaders from across the industry join the podcast to share insights and help EV owners make smart decisions when buying and selling electric cars. 

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