PLATE & PONDER: Empty-Nesting with Jen & Chris Fenton

Jen & Chris Fenton

Join a powerhouse married couple—empty nesters turning their kitchen table into a hub for unfiltered conversations on life's big questions. She's a dedicated inner-city charter school director, elected official, and former school board president; he's a seasoned media executive, professor, and author. Together, with decades of experience in parenting, politics, public service, and purpose, they sip wine, share a meal, and dive deep into current events, cultural shifts, geopolitical headlines, and the hilarious highs and lows of empty-nest life. Expect candid debates, heartfelt stories, intriguing interviews, belly laughs, and no-holds-barred insights that challenge your views and spark your curiosity. Perfect for fans of thoughtful political podcasts, relationship dynamics, and real-talk commentary. Unscripted. Unfiltered. Unapologetically real. Grab a seat—new episodes weekly. Download & Follow now to join the conversation!

  1. Michael Jackson’s Bob Fosse Obsession, “Michael” Biopic, Pizzeria Mozza Meatballs, & Why the Car Buying Process Sucks

    2D AGO

    Michael Jackson’s Bob Fosse Obsession, “Michael” Biopic, Pizzeria Mozza Meatballs, & Why the Car Buying Process Sucks

    Send us Fan Mail Grab a glass of wine (and maybe order some takeout) because Jen & Chris Fenton are back with another heartfelt, hilarious, and deliciously real episode of Plate & Ponder: Empty-Nesting with Jen & Chris Fenton! Chris can’t stop geeking out over the brand-new Michael Jackson biopic Michael and Michael’s lifelong infatuation with dance legend Bob Fosse—complete with moves, music, and the kind of choreography that still gives them chills. Then the mood flips to pure family joy as they relive the epic Faux Father’s Day surprise Jen and the kids threw for Chris—full of love, laughs, and zero actual neckties. Of course the celebration involved their forever-favorite restaurant: the iconic Pizzeria Mozza, where they’ve been loyal regulars for a jaw-dropping 19 years. They spill all the secrets on those legendary meatballs and the addictive spicy tomato sauce that keeps them coming back (warning: you WILL get hungry).  They also cheer on Princeton’s fantastic college lacrosse season (huge congrats, Tigers!), vent about the absolute insanity of buying a car in 2026—why the process feels engineered to drive you insane—and share the highs, lows, and hilarious truths of empty-nest life.  Food, family, pop culture, and zero-filter real talk… this one has it all. Press play—you’ll be smiling, craving Italian, and maybe rethinking your next car purchase before the credits roll. #PlateAndPonder #EmptyNesting #MichaelJacksonMovie #MichaelBiopic #BobFosse #PizzeriaMozza #MozzaMeatballs #FauxFathersDay #PrincetonLacrosse #CarBuyingNightmare #EmptyNestLife #FamilyPodcast #FoodAndFamily #19YearsStrong

    35 min
  2. "BAD COUNSELORS" - 1200 American Reasons this Film ROCKS & the Stories Behind It!

    MAY 21

    "BAD COUNSELORS" - 1200 American Reasons this Film ROCKS & the Stories Behind It!

    Send us Fan Mail Jen comes back to cohost this special (Trailer Link:) BAD COUNSELORS episode to mostly keep me in check from sounding too much like an infomercial, but honestly, I'm so inspired by this film that I'm not sure she was successful. In this episode we talk about how we beat the odds - the decade long process from idea to movie screen with BAD COUNSELORS. In fact, not only did we break records -- we CRUSHED them. From first reading the script on November 18, 2024 (and guess what? we exposed the original title of the script!) to rolling cameras May 2025 to hitting 1000-plus screens nationwide this July 22! How bout them apples!!! We also talk about all the players on this very blessed team from the amazing actors, to the crew members, to the producers, and to the writers and director - and, we even touch on all the NCAA Athletes and vendors involved after the cameras stopped rolling and the work to find a big audience begins. Bottom line, we hit it all... so if you're interested in knowing how a movie comes together and what the needs to ALL GO RIGHT for a movie to be great, you're listening to the right episode of #PlateAndPonder! Enjoy!! #BADCOUNSELORSMOVIE www.badcounselors.com And here's the #RealClearPolitics op-Ed we refer to in the episode: Hollywood Sold Out. I’m Betting on America to Bring It Back! As production flees overseas and jobs disappear at home, a fully American-made film offers a path forward. By Chris Fenton For years, I helped Hollywood chase the world… And now I regret it. I sat in many rooms where movie deals were struck to open China’s market and others around the world, attract international audiences, and globalize production efficiencies. We believed we were building a more efficient entertainment industry without borders, powered by billions of consumers, cheap labor, and foreign incentives. In many ways, we succeeded—especially by short-term financial measures. But for America’s longer-term interests, we failed miserably. We told ourselves global commerce would lead to convergence, better monetization, and shared values. Instead, we created a slow-moving trainwreck of imbalance. Markets like China protected their domestic film industries with quotas, censorship, and restricted revenue shares, while Hollywood recklessly adapted for access. Scripts were adjusted. Pro-American themes, even in their most subtle forms, were nullified. Storylines softened. Creative decisions bent to the realities of mandates from the Middle Kingdom to the Middle East. This creative-stifling behavior complemented Hollywood’s fervent drive to keep production costs low by finding cheaper labor and grander incentives than America provided. Capitalism trumped patriotism, but at the time it simply felt like smart business. Looking back, however, the cost is now painfully clear. Los Angeles alone has lost more than 40,000 film and television jobs in recent years—roughly a quarter of its entertainment workforce. Production employment is down nearly 30% since 2022. On-location filming has dropped more than 20% in the last year alone and nearly 40% over the past decade. Atlanta—once the crown jewel of “Hollywood South”—saw production spending collapse from $4.4 billion in 2022 to roughly $2.3 billion today, a nearly 50% drop.  Hollywood offshores more than 60% of its production annually now. As a result, America has lost a major economic engine along with significant global cultural influence. Hollywood didn’t slowly decline—it hollowed out—as did the industry’s appetite to project pro-American idealism globally. This isn’t a temporary slowdown. It’s deeply structural. Like many other industries, Hollywood chased efficiency and global scale for decades. Productions moved wherever incentives were strongest and labor was cheapest. Financing followed international capital. And foreign governments offered subsides aggressively, pulling jobs, expertise, and infrastructure out of the United States—often while using ruthless protectionist policies to nurture their own domestic players. The result was predictable. Reckless globalization didn’t just change where and how Hollywood’s films are made—it changed who makes them and stars in them too. Today, a disproportionate share of top-tier, box-office-leading English-speaking actors come from the United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada. American-born stars account for less than half of the industry’s biggest global draws—despite the United States representing roughly three-quarters of the English-speaking world. Studios increasingly cast British and Australian actors as Americans, not just for talent but for global market appeal. Hollywood didn’t just export its films—it imported its priorities and American interests, favoring global optimization over domestic industry investment. We assumed American dominance in entertainment was permanent. It isn’t. Even worse, many are ok with that. If we want Hollywood to remain the global leader in storytelling, we must reinvest in the ecosystem that made it great—our workers, creatives, stories, and production infrastructure. That’s exactly what I, along with a 1,000-plus fellow Americans, just did. After years of writing and speaking on these issues, I produced BAD COUNSELORS, a fish-out-of-water comedy starring #ChrisKlein, #MattCornett, and #RamonReed, directed by #ChrisDowling. The collective vision and the resulting film proved what should have been obvious: What matters most isn’t just what’s on screen. It’s how it was made. All 1,175 people who worked on BAD COUNSELORS are American. Every creative—writers, director, producers, cast—is American. We shot entirely in the United States: North Carolina, Tennessee, and California. All pre- and post-production were completed in Texas, Tennessee, California, and North Carolina. The music is entirely American—from #NightRanger to #Lifehouse to #ForrestFrank. The film was financed by an American studio, Loam Entertainment, and produced by American companies—Loam, Zero Gravity, and Narrow Gate. None of this was accidental. It was intentional. It wasn’t the cheapest way to make a movie. It wasn’t the easiest either. But it was the right one. Because at some point, belief must turn into action. For years we’ve talked about supporting American workers and rebuilding domestic industries. Yet Hollywood often failed to apply those principles to itself—optimizing for cost over community, incentives over infrastructure, and short-term gain over long-term strength. When production leaves, jobs don’t just disappear—they take entire ecosystems with them. Equipment houses close. Post-production shrinks. Young talent loses the chance to learn the craft. Capability leaves with it. That’s the real danger. Hollywood’s strength has never been just its intellectual property or global reach. It’s the depth of our talent, the maturity of our process, the mastery of our craft, the world-class infrastructure, and the great nation of the United States of America that supports it all. When we abandon the birthplace of moviemaking, we erode the highest-profile cultural and economic pillar of the United States. Though modest in scale, BAD COUNSELORS will release on 1,000-plus screens nationwide on July 23rd. The model behind it proves it’s still possible to make a great film entirely within the American creative economy, directly employing over a thousand Americans and boosting local economies across the United States. At a time when more than 60% of major productions are made abroad, choosing to make a film entirely in America isn’t nostalgia—it’s a deliberate economic decision. And, most importantly, it’s a decision to make quality the priority. Which raises a simple question: if we know what works, why aren’t we doing more of it? This isn’t about shutting the world out—far from it. I’ve spent my career building bridges across markets and still believe in global collaboration—but only when it’s balanced. When one side protects its own domestic industry and the other doesn’t, the result isn’t partnership—it’s displacement. I don’t regret the work I did helping Hollywood expand globally. It was done in good faith. But experience brings clarity, and clarity demands adjustment. BAD COUNSELORS is part of that important journey. It’s a fun, feel-good family comedy—the kind Hollywood used to make routinely. If audiences want more films like it—entertaining, broadly appealing, emotionally fulfilling, inspirational, and 100% built by American crews and creators—the path forward is simple: show up and support them. Because in the end, this isn’t just about how films are made. It’s about whether we choose to invest in the people who make them. Hollywood doesn’t need to retreat from the world. But it does need to remember where its horsepower comes from—American actors, writers, stories, crews, musicians, innovators, locations, infrastructure, and communities. That’s the engine that drives the greatest creative community in the world. Like any engine, it requires maintenance. For years we assumed it would take care of itself. Now we know it won’t. If we want to sustain American leadership in entertainment, we must be deliberate about where we invest, where we produce, what stories we tell, and who we employ. That’s exactly what we set out to do with BAD COUNSELORS. We bet the house on America, and

    38 min
  3. "Midnight Train to Simpler Times: Keep Believing, Craving the 80's, & No More Assassination Attempts!"

    APR 27

    "Midnight Train to Simpler Times: Keep Believing, Craving the 80's, & No More Assassination Attempts!"

    Send us Fan Mail Why the heck is EVERYONE obsessed with the 80s & 90s right now? In this raw, heartfelt episode of Plate & Ponder: Empty-Nesting with Jen & Chris Fenton, we crack open ONE single verse from Journey’s legendary “Don’t Stop Believin’” — “Just a small-town girl, livin’ in a lonely world… She took the midnight train goin’ anywhere / Just a city boy, born and raised in South Detroit…” — and it unlocks EVERYTHING about why analog life felt so free, hopeful, and simple compared to today’s digital chaos.  Then we go heavy: the third assassination attempt on Trump last night. We don’t shy away — we ask the tough questions: Why is this happening in America? How do we actually prevent the next one?  But it’s not all serious. Jen puts Chris in the hot seat with ultra-specific questions to test how well he REALLY knows her after all these years (the answers are equal parts hilarious and adorable). We laugh, banter, roast the latest news, and remind you why empty-nesting together is still the best adventure.  If you’re tired of the noise, craving real connection, and secretly wishing you could hop on that midnight train back to simpler times… this episode is for YOU.  Hit play (follow, download, enjoy, & review). Feel the nostalgia. Remember why we still believe.   #DontStopBelievin #80s90sNostalgia #TrumpAssassinationAttempt #EmptyNestLife #PlateAndPonder

    37 min
  4. "Empty Nest, Empty Vault: 40 Years Since Geraldo's Epic Al Capone Flop, Epstein, Butler, PA & Trump, Missing Scientists, Charlie Kirk's Killer, & More Iran Chaos!"

    APR 20

    "Empty Nest, Empty Vault: 40 Years Since Geraldo's Epic Al Capone Flop, Epstein, Butler, PA & Trump, Missing Scientists, Charlie Kirk's Killer, & More Iran Chaos!"

    Send us Fan Mail Jen & Chris Fenton are back at the table for the most jam-packed, jaw-dropping Plate & Ponder yet!   They kick things off with a spectacular celebration of the 40th anniversary of Geraldo Rivera’s live TV disaster — cracking open Al Capone’s vault on national television… only to find… nothing. Pure comedic gold that still has America laughing (and side-eyeing every “bombshell” reveal).   From there it’s a wild ride through the headlines you can’t look away from:   The chilling mystery of 11 elite American scientists who simply vanished  The Epstein files that still refuse to close  New layers on the Butler assassination attempt on Trump  The hunt for Charlie Kirk’s killer  Explosive updates from the Mangione trial  The shocking murders of Minnesota state elected officials  Exactly where this Iran conflict is headed — and what’s really happening on the groundThey don’t stop there. Jen and Chris get real about the haunting drive up PCH through Malibu — where the lack of rebuilding after the fires leaves a devastating visual scar you can’t unsee. Plus, the terrifying prediction that Europe could literally run out of jet fuel right as summer travel season hits.   And because it’s Plate & Ponder, of course there’s dinner drama: Chris’s glorious “cheating days” are here — pizza, steak frites, and all the forbidden SALT he can handle before he crawls back to his brutal no-salt week. Jen’s “UGH” says it all.   Raw, honest, hilarious, and unfiltered — this is empty-nesting at its most entertaining. Grab your plate, pull up a chair, and ponder with them.    Listen now wherever you get your podcasts!   #EmptyNestEmptyVault #PlateAndPonder #GeraldoVaultFail #EpsteinMystery #TrumpAssassinationAttempt #MissingScientists #CharlieKirk #MangioneTrial #MinnesotaMurders #IranConflict #MalibuPCHDevastation #NoSaltDietCheat #EuropeJetFuelCrisis #JenAndChrisFenton #EmptyNestingLife #ConspiracyAndChardonnay

    38 min
  5. Spencer Pratt for LA Mayor! Ryan Gosling is Handsome AF in Project Hail Mary, & Chris's 100% Made-in-the-USA Film Saves a Hollowed-Out Hollywood!

    APR 18

    Spencer Pratt for LA Mayor! Ryan Gosling is Handsome AF in Project Hail Mary, & Chris's 100% Made-in-the-USA Film Saves a Hollowed-Out Hollywood!

    Send us Fan Mail Plate & Ponder: Empty-Nesting with Jen & Chris Fenton Empty-nesting just got loud, proud, and unapologetically fun!  Jen & Chris are back at the table breaking down:  The ultimate battle of Men’s Volleyball GOATs (sparks flew) - Zach & Andrew Chapin (Pepperdine vs USC - 2X)...Spencer Pratt’s bold-as-hell, no-filter chase for Mayor of Los Angeles Why Ryan Gosling looks ridiculously handsome and absolutely crushes it in the massive new blockbuster Project Hail Mary — Chris is calling it one of the most entertaining, pure-Hollywood movies in years. NO LEFT / NO RIGHT - Just PURE Entertainment and Emotional Tugs!And the mic-drop moment: Chris’s own comedy Bad Counselors was shot 100% in America with an all-American crew and cast — at a time when 60% of Hollywood productions are filmed overseas and 50% of its biggest stars are foreign. HOW BOUT THEM APPLES! And it's coming to a theater near you this summer!Real talk, big laughs, zero apologies, and a whole lot of American pride. This is the kind of episode you’ll finish and immediately text your group chat about.  Grab a plate, hit play, and join the conversation!   What do you think — is Spencer Pratt actually the shake-up LA needs? Drop your take below! #ProjectHailMary #RyanGosling #SpencerPrattForMayor #LAMayor #SpencerPratt #BadCounselors #AmericanMade #MadeInUSA #Hollywood #PlateAndPonder #EmptyNesting #Podcast

    37 min
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Join a powerhouse married couple—empty nesters turning their kitchen table into a hub for unfiltered conversations on life's big questions. She's a dedicated inner-city charter school director, elected official, and former school board president; he's a seasoned media executive, professor, and author. Together, with decades of experience in parenting, politics, public service, and purpose, they sip wine, share a meal, and dive deep into current events, cultural shifts, geopolitical headlines, and the hilarious highs and lows of empty-nest life. Expect candid debates, heartfelt stories, intriguing interviews, belly laughs, and no-holds-barred insights that challenge your views and spark your curiosity. Perfect for fans of thoughtful political podcasts, relationship dynamics, and real-talk commentary. Unscripted. Unfiltered. Unapologetically real. Grab a seat—new episodes weekly. Download & Follow now to join the conversation!

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