The Space Between

Bevan Pfeiffer
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In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight, and therapeutic practice. The conversation touches the heart of consciousness itself: how we create meaning, the role of ritual in integrating experience, and the transformative potential of altered states, whether reached through ceremony, breath, or daily devotion. This dialogue is less about answers and more about remembering, the body as teacher, ancestry as guide, and presence as medicine. Listeners will find practical wisdom for navigating their own path of self-inquiry, from the challenges of letting go to the courage of coming home to who we truly are. If you’re drawn to the intersections of science, spirituality, and self-discovery, this episode offers both grounded insight and luminous perspective. For more on Bevan’s therapeutic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au. To learn about Johnson’s retreats and teachings, visit www.johnsonchong.com.

Episodes

  1. FEB 2

    Group Therapist: Sara Schreiber - The Mirror Effect, How Groups Heal What Individual Therapy Can't

    What happens when we stop performing for each other and start being real? In this episode, I sit down with Sara, a group therapist who creates spaces where vulnerability becomes contagious in the best possible way—where the very thing that terrifies us, being exposed in front of others, becomes the doorway to profound transformation. We explore what group therapy does that individual therapy cannot, why shame loses its power when spoken aloud to witnesses, and how conflict—when held well becomes connection. Sara shares the unique magic of interpersonal process groups, where there's no curriculum, no theme, just the raw practice of staying present to what's happening inside you as it happens. In this conversation, we discuss: Why healing happens differently when witnessed by many instead of one The neuroscience of being seen by multiple people simultaneously How group therapy acts as a mirror for your interpersonal patterns The agreements that create safety for radical honesty Why the person who activates you most teaches you the most about yourself How social media and technology are reshaping our ability to connect The role of culture, projection, and shame in group dynamics Why conflict is essential for growth (and how to navigate it) The most powerful transformations Sara has witnessed in groups If you've ever wondered what it would be like to drop your mask in a room with strangers and speak the unspeakable, or if you're curious about how we learn to be human together in an age that's forgotten how to connect—this conversation is for you.   Bevan's therapeutic website:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Sara's Links:  Instagram: @groups_in_private_practice Website: www.groupsinprivatepractice.com

    1h 11m

  2. JAN 7

    Spiritual Retreat Creator: Ruby Chapman - On Trust, Grief, and the Courage to Evolve

    Ruby Chapman is a retreat space creator, energy worker, and spiritual guide based in Mudgee, Australia. Ruby has spent years navigating the edges of her comfort zone—from solo pilgrimages through the Andes to building Zensei, her wellness retreat space. In this conversation, we explore trust, presence, grief, shadow work, and what it means to surrender to something beyond our control. Expect to learn how Ruby learned to trust her intuition over her logical mind, what happened during her spiritual awakening in Peru, why solitude is one of the most powerful tools for self-discovery, how to work with your nervous system to stay present, the ancient practice of collective grief ceremonies, why your shadow is just untransmuted light, how to distinguish between surrendering and giving up, the neuroscience behind consciousness and telepathy, why we can't actually multitask, and much more. This conversation goes deep into the uncomfortable truths about spiritual growth, the power of being present, and the courage it takes to keep evolving when you can't see the path ahead   Bevan's Therpautic offerings: https://theembodiedmind.com.au/   Ruby's Retreat Space: https://www.zensiretreat.com.au/

    1h 29m

  3. 12/29/2025

    Self-Worth Psychotherapist: Jackson Goding - Redefining Self-Worth, Masculinity & Healing Shame

    Welcome to The Space Between, where we explore the transformative journey of self-worth, vulnerability, and authentic masculinity. In this episode, clinical psychotherapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Jackson Goding for a raw, honest conversation about the hidden stories we tell ourselves, the roots of shame, and the courage it takes to step into the unknown. Discover how early experiences shape our sense of value, why men struggle with emotional expression, and how embracing vulnerability can lead to deeper relationships and true personal growth. Jackson shares his own battles with identity, addiction, and the masks we wear, offering practical insights on boundaries, self-acceptance, and the healing power of community. Whether you’re seeking to break free from old narratives, understand the difference between self-worth and self-esteem, or learn how to set healthy boundaries in love and life, this episode is your guide to thriving in the space between who you are and who you want to become.   Bevan's Therapeutic Website:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Jackson's Therapeutic Website: https://findreasontherapy.com.au/

    54 min

  4. 12/22/2025

    Kink Educator: Sam Gatsby Lim - The Power of Play, Reclaiming the Body, Identity and Intimacy

    What does it mean to truly come home to yourself? In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Sam Gatsby Lim. Kink educator, artist, and advocate for embodied living, to explore the journey from disconnection and people-pleasing to radical self-acceptance and authentic intimacy. Sam shares his story as a child of immigrants navigating trauma, cultural expectations, and the search for safety within his own body. Together, they unpack the tension between societal norms and personal truth, the transformative power of somatic practices, and how kink and play can become profound tools for healing and self-discovery. This conversation dives deep into the nuances of consent, the myths of masculinity, and the importance of creating spaces where vulnerability is not just allowed, but celebrated. Whether you’re queer, straight, or somewhere in between, Sam’s insights invite us all to question the scripts we’ve inherited, embrace our unique desires, and cultivate a more compassionate relationship with ourselves and others. If you’re ready to challenge your assumptions about intimacy, identity, and what it means to be fully alive, this episode is for you.   Bevan Pfeiffer's therapy website: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Sam Gatsby Lim's website:  https://www.samgatsbylim.com/

    1h 28m

  5. 12/07/2025

    Breathwork Practitioner: Mark Moon - Breathwork The Hidden Key to Healing, Presence & Transformation

    What if the key to unlocking your deepest vitality, healing old emotional wounds, and transforming the way you live was right under your nose—literally? In this powerful episode, psychotherapist and couples therapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with  Mark Moon, a seasoned breathwork practitioner whose journey has taken him from the rigidity of the fitness world to the profound freedom found in conscious connected breathing. Together, they explore why breathwork is far more than a wellness trend. It’s an accessible and science-supported pathway for nervous system regulation, trauma release, and self-inquiry. Bevan and Mark unpack how intentional breathing can help you reconnect to your body’s innate intelligence, shift long-held emotional patterns, and rediscover a sense of grounded vitality. Mark also shares his personal story—how he moved from disconnection and depression into a life filled with presence, energy, and playfulness. His lived experience brings nuance to the conversation as he and Bevan explore the myths, science, and subtle art behind transformational breathwork. You’ll hear practical insights on: The difference between breath techniques and true breathwork journeys Why integration and safety matter more than intensity How conscious breathing builds resilience, emotional clarity, and inner spaciousness Ways to begin or deepen your breathwork practice with intention and care Whether you’re a curious beginner, a committed seeker, or someone skeptical of breathwork’s bold claims, this conversation invites you to slow down, pay attention, and experiment with the most powerful tool you already have: your breath. Tune in to discover why, as Bevan Pfeiffer and Mark Moon teach, the journey inward might just be the most meaningful—and exciting—adventure of your life.   Bevan Pfeiffer's therapy website: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Mark Moon's website:  https://thexbreath.com.au/

    1h 31m

  6. 12/01/2025

    Burnout Psychotherapist: Emilie Cocquerel - Why Stillness Scares Us, The Hidden Cost of Avoiding Ourselves

    Why do we run from stillness, and what might we discover if we finally stop? In this deeply honest episode, host Bevan welcomes Emilie Cocquerel, actor, storyteller, and psychotherapist specializing in burnout, for a conversation that goes far beyond surface-level self-help. Emilie brings a rare blend of creative insight and clinical wisdom, drawing from her experiences both on stage and in the therapy room. Together, Bevan and Emilie explore the hidden costs of high-functioning lives, the stories we tell ourselves about productivity and rest, and the quiet collapse that can happen when we ignore our need for presence. You will hear candid reflections on why sitting with discomfort feels so threatening, how our bodies and minds instinctively protect us from the unknown, and why true growth often begins in the moments we most want to escape. Emilie shares personal stories from navigating chronic illness to the challenges of giving up caffeine and reveals how even the smallest acts of slowing down can become powerful opportunities for healing. This episode is an invitation to rethink your relationship with silence, vulnerability, and the full spectrum of your emotions. Whether you are a high achiever on the brink of burnout, a creative searching for deeper meaning, or simply someone longing for a more grounded way of being, you will find practical wisdom and gentle encouragement here. Join us as we uncover the art of compassionate witnessing, the value of holding space for ourselves and others, and the surprising freedom that comes from embracing the messiness of being human. If you are ready to trade quick fixes for lasting transformation, this conversation is for you. Listen now and discover how presence, real and unfiltered and sometimes uncomfortable, can become the foundation for a more resilient and authentic life.   Emilie's therapeutic work:  https://www.emiliejaneservices.com.au/   Bevan's therapeutic work:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/

    1h 54m

  7. 11/25/2025

    Voice Coach: Donald Woodburn - Breaking Free from Self-Censorship & Finding Your True Voice

    What if the voice you use every day isn’t really yours? Today I’m joined by Donald Woodburn, renowned voice coach and performer, to uncover the hidden forces shaping how we speak, connect, and show up in the world. We break down why most people never access their true voice, how culture and upbringing shape our self-expression, and the surprising power of breath, body, and emotion in communication. Donald shares stories from his own journey, moments of raw authenticity, the impact of class and culture, and why reclaiming your voice is about so much more than just talking. Expect practical tools to find your real voice, insights on overcoming self-censorship, and a deep dive into the psychology of being heard. Whether you’re an actor, therapist, or just want to show up more fully in life, this episode will challenge what you think you know about yourself.   Find Donald on Instagram @theantivoicecoach    For therapeutic work with Bevan www.theembodiedmind.com.au

    1h 22m

  8. 11/18/2025

    Embodiment Psychotherapist: Rachel Pfeiffer - A Conversation on Love, Healing and Coming Home to Yourself

    What does it actually mean to come home to yourself? In this episode, Bevan sits down with his wife, Rachel, for a grounded and unfiltered conversation about the realities of love, the role of suffering and the inner work required to build a life with depth. They explore how our earliest patterns shape the way we show up in partnership, why discomfort is often the doorway to growth, and how awareness can shift the entire trajectory of a relationship. This is a conversation about the stories we inherit, the ones we unconsciously repeat, and the moment we finally choose to step into authorship of our own lives. Drawing on Bevan’s background in psychotherapy, their shared personal experiences and the spiritual frameworks that guide them, they unpack what it takes to build a conscious relationship built on honesty, presence and responsibility. If you’re navigating conflict, healing from old wounds or simply hungry for a deeper understanding of yourself, this dialogue offers a clear and compassionate path forward. They look at the art of asking better questions, the freedom that comes from telling the truth and the power of meeting your partner with openness rather than armor. This is a conversation for seekers, thinkers and anyone wanting to live with more intention, clarity and love.   For more on Rachel's therapeutic work:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   For more on Bevan's therapeutic work: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/

    1h 38m

  9. 11/12/2025

    Somatic Practitioner: Alanna La Cioppa - Grief, Growth & the Language of the Body

    What if your body has been speaking to you all along, and you just haven’t learned its language yet? In this powerful episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with somatic coach and therapist Alanna to explore what it really means to live from the body. This is a conversation about feeling rather than fixing, presence over performance, and the radical act of slowing down in a world that keeps speeding up. Alanna shares her transformation from corporate life and gym culture into the world of yoga, mindfulness, and embodied healing. After heartbreak, stillness became her greatest teacher. “The body is a beautiful data source that we tend to forget about,” she reflects, reminding us that wisdom doesn’t just live in the mind, it pulses through every breath, sensation, and emotion. Together, Bevan and Alanna unpack the tension between mind and body, exploring how to rebuild trust in our inner signals through practice, patience, and compassion. They dive into grief as a teacher, with Alanna sharing her journey through profound loss, and how love and grief are two sides of the same truth. “The depth of my grief is a reflection of how deeply I loved.” They explore relationships and boundaries, the art of self-leadership, and the courage it takes to say “no” when the world tells you to keep saying “yes.” It’s a raw and honest dialogue about healing, growth, and what it means to come home to yourself. This isn’t self-help, it’s self-return. A reminder that transformation doesn’t come from doing more, but from feeling more deeply. If you’re drawn to conversations on embodiment, healing, grief, mindfulness, and emotional intelligence, this one will stay with you long after it ends. “Live in such a way that you’d be willing to live the same life again and again for eternity.” “You are in the driver’s seat. It’s all within your control to design the life of your dreams. Just keep taking the next step.”   For more information about Bevan's therapeutic work: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   For more information on Alanna's therapeutic work:  https://www.alignedbyalanna.com/

    1h 58m

  10. 11/02/2025

    Alternative Relationships: Tilly Reid - Redefining Love Through Conscious Relationships & Community

    What if love wasn’t something we fell into, but something we designed with intention? In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Tilly Reid to explore how our ideas of love, connection, and commitment are being rewritten. They dive into the ways heartbreak can become a teacher, how jealousy can reveal rather than destroy, and why so many of us are starting to question the traditional scripts around monogamy. Tilly shares her personal journey into reimagining relationships, not as rulebooks, but as living, evolving designs. Together, they unpack frameworks like the “Relationship Smorgasbord” and R-B-D-S-M-A, exploring how clarity around boundaries, desires, and consent can transform the way we relate. This conversation also journeys into the heart of community, from the creation of The Open Circle to the Far Festival, spaces built for people curious about conscious connection, non-traditional partnership, and authentic belonging. It’s a deep and honest exploration of what happens when we bring awareness to the ways we love, and begin to craft relationships, communities, and lives that reflect who we truly are.   For more information about Bevan's therapeutic work visit https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   More Information about far and the open circle visit https://www.farfestival.com/ https://www.theopencircle.au/

    1h 14m

  11. 10/26/2025

    Harmonize: Gene Green- Conversations on Music, Creativity, and Self-Discovery

    What happens when music becomes more than sound — when it becomes a language for the soul? Join Bevan Pfeiffer in conversation with artist Mitch Bonnici (aka Gene Green) as they explore the deeper layers of creativity, self-expression, and healing. Harmonize isn’t just about music — it’s about what music reveals. Each song unpacks how rhythm, lyrics, and vulnerability can become mirrors for who we are and how we grow. Together, Bevan and Mitch dive into the emotional anatomy of songwriting, the role of technology in shaping artistic identity, and the quiet tension between authenticity and performance. From childhood memories of finding refuge in sound, to raw discussions on shame, intuition, and the dance between masculinity and femininity — these are not surface-level chats. They’re honest, reflective, and deeply human. If you’ve ever felt moved by a song and wondered why, or if you’ve used creativity as a way to make sense of yourself, Harmonize will speak your language. Expect truth. Expect depth. Expect to leave each conversation a little more attuned to your own inner music.   For more on Bevan's theraputic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au   To listen to Mitch's music https://open.spotify.com/artist/5Q4BZvx5d3ix2FUHwcNvR2?si=T2aPqOV7SfCcARiGYS_37g

    1h 10m

  12. 10/20/2025

    Shamanic Practitioner: Johnson Chong - Between Science and Soul. A Conversation on Conscious Growth

    In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight, and therapeutic practice. The conversation touches the heart of consciousness itself: how we create meaning, the role of ritual in integrating experience, and the transformative potential of altered states, whether reached through ceremony, breath, or daily devotion. This dialogue is less about answers and more about remembering, the body as teacher, ancestry as guide, and presence as medicine. Listeners will find practical wisdom for navigating their own path of self-inquiry, from the challenges of letting go to the courage of coming home to who we truly are. If you’re drawn to the intersections of science, spirituality, and self-discovery, this episode offers both grounded insight and luminous perspective. For more on Bevan’s therapeutic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au. To learn about Johnson’s retreats and teachings, visit www.johnsonchong.com.

    1h 59m
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In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight, and therapeutic practice. The conversation touches the heart of consciousness itself: how we create meaning, the role of ritual in integrating experience, and the transformative potential of altered states, whether reached through ceremony, breath, or daily devotion. This dialogue is less about answers and more about remembering, the body as teacher, ancestry as guide, and presence as medicine. Listeners will find practical wisdom for navigating their own path of self-inquiry, from the challenges of letting go to the courage of coming home to who we truly are. If you’re drawn to the intersections of science, spirituality, and self-discovery, this episode offers both grounded insight and luminous perspective. For more on Bevan’s therapeutic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au. To learn about Johnson’s retreats and teachings, visit www.johnsonchong.com.

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  • Creator
    Bevan Pfeiffer
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    12
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2025 All rights reserved.
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