Working Out God

Beulah & Toyin

Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate

Episodes

  1. God, Faith, Steps and Success | Season 1 Reflections

    12/17/2025

    God, Faith, Steps and Success | Season 1 Reflections

    In this episode, we pause to reflect on the conversations we’ve had so far, the themes that have continued to surface, and what God has been quietly highlighting throughout the season. We talk about the stories our guests shared — how clarity rarely came all at once, how plans shifted, and how faith often looked like taking the next step without having the full picture. We reflect on what it means to trust God without certainty, and how obedience sometimes comes before understanding. We also draw on reflections from Relentless Pursuit by Ben Cooley, exploring ideas around calling, frustration, creativity, and why reaching the end of a season doesn’t mean something has gone wrong. We talk about how frustration can be a signpost, and how God often uses the things that stir us most to shape what we’re called to create and contribute, right where we are. The episode closes with a reflection inspired by a recent trip to Rome and the story of Peter — a reminder that calling isn’t about platforms or outcomes, but about faithfulness, obedience, and keeping our eyes on Jesus, one step at a time. A reflective pause before we close out the year together. Chapters (00:05:48) - The Will of God(00:12:01) - Using Your Frustration as a Fuel for Purpose(00:18:40) - Reflections in Rome(00:20:37) - What Was Your Highlights of Rome?(00:24:41) - A Calling for All(00:29:11) - The Legacy of Peter(00:32:06) - God Will Use Each One Of You

    34 min
  2. The Door That Said “No” and the Calling That Said “Go”

    12/10/2025

    The Door That Said “No” and the Calling That Said “Go”

    Join us as we sit down with Lloydette Bai-Marrow — solicitor advocate, anti-corruption expert, founder of Parametric Global Consulting, and someone whose career path has been anything but straightforward. From deciding at six years old that she would become a lawyer (after an argument with her grandmother), to navigating rejection, career setbacks, and unexpected redirections, Lloydette shares how God led her step-by-step, often through seasons that made no sense until much later. She opens up about how she finished university with a result that left her discouraged and questioning everything, almost giving up, until God gave her a simple instruction that carried her through years of “no’s”: keep going. We talk about the moments that shaped her faith, from crying on the Tube after long days in court, to the shock of God reminding her that she would only be a “traditional lawyer” for the short-to-mid term, to the terrifying peace of leaving her dream job at the Serious Fraud Office with no clear plan other than obedience. Lloydette also shares how she navigated marriage, motherhood, fear, finances, closed doors, and God’s “Denzel Washington slam” when she tried to return to corporate life, only to realise God was protecting the assignment He had given her. Today, she sits on major UK boards, leads high-profile investigations, and intentionally brings God into every room she enters, one prayerful step at a time. This conversation is full of wisdom for anyone wrestling with uncertainty, career crossroads, or the pressure to have life perfectly figured out. It’s about courage, calling, obedience, and recognising that sometimes God speaks loudly and sometimes He says, “now go”.

    1h 7m
  3. Dreaming Big, Starting Small & Trusting God Through It All

    12/03/2025

    Dreaming Big, Starting Small & Trusting God Through It All

    In this episode, we sit down with TV presenter, actress and creative educator Joanna Adeyinka-Burford to talk about faith, identity, wellbeing, and learning to trust God in a career that doesn’t always follow a straight line. Joanna shares her earliest memories of faith — writing little worship songs at five years old — and how that childlike desire to know God shaped her creativity later in life. Growing up in a musical household, training at Italia Conti and New York Film Academy, and launching her presenting career through a Channel 5 competition, her journey has been anything but predictable. From CBeebies to pantomime, teaching, acting and now writing a devotional for children, Jo reflects on the twists, shifts and surprises that have marked her path.  We talk about wellbeing, list-making, navigating the unknowns of self-employment, and the moment she learned to stop praying “Lord, let me get this job” and started praying “Lord, let me walk with You.” Jo also opens up about grief, losing her best friend in 2020, and how God met her in the questions, the why’s, the wrestling, and the slow healing.  This conversation explores faith in real life — in creativity, career, trust, parenting, rest, identity, and those seasons where God invites us to come to Him exactly as we are. Chapters (00:00:00) - Interviewing Joanna Adeyinka Burford(00:02:03) - My earliest faith memory(00:04:05) - How Does God Fit Into Your Lists?(00:07:09) - The Wellbeing Project(00:11:14) - How My Career Has Been Stabilised By My Faith(00:17:33) - Joanna on Writing a Book(00:22:35) - Good Grief in the Life(00:24:28) - What Happens When Our Prayers Are Not Answered?(00:26:25) - How to Grieve Well(00:34:50) - Coming to God: The Psalms(00:36:44) - Who's Your Faith Warrior?(00:39:05) - The Importance of Believing in Yourself(00:47:45) - What Does Rest Look Like For You?(00:53:13) - Jo on her faith journey

    56 min
  4. Music, Ministry & the Moments God Says "Go"

    11/26/2025

    Music, Ministry & the Moments God Says "Go"

    In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Jerry (Jerome Matthew-Moore Brown) to talk about faith, gifting, calling, and the real journey of working out where God is leading you. Jerry grew up in East London in a deeply musical family, surrounded by creativity from the start. Dance and musical theatre came first, followed by formal music training and an early start in the industry — touring with Gloria Gaynor at just seventeen. Over the years he’s recorded and performed with artists like Nina Simone, Tom Jones, Harry Connick Jr., Tina Turner, Girls Aloud, The Kingdom Choir, LCGC, the London Philharmonic Orchestra and many more — all while staying rooted in his faith and grounded in who God called him to be. We talk about navigating multiple gifts, choosing between opportunities, and learning to follow God when the path isn’t obvious. Jerry shares openly about family legacy, the tension between passion and obedience, moments of redirection, and the prayer he prayed at fifteen that God brought back to him decades later — a turning point in stepping into pastoral leadership. The conversation dives into creativity, calling, surrender, and trusting God through every season — from career changes to creative pursuits to trying to make sense of your gifts. Chapters (00:01:54) - Pastor Jerry on The Overcomers(00:12:22) - Dancing and performing as a Christian boy(00:26:49) - Multi-Talented Musicians(00:37:40) - Pastoring at 30(00:44:02) - "I Will Do Your Will"(00:46:06) - God's Blessings on Drummers

    1h 2m
  5. Worship, West End and When 'No' is Still Part of God's Plan

    11/19/2025

    Worship, West End and When 'No' is Still Part of God's Plan

    Grab a seat with us as we chat to Rachel John, West End actress, singer, and storyteller whose faith has shaped every step of her journey. From her early days as a secretary to making her debut in The Lion King and later earning an Olivier Award nomination for Hamilton, Rachel shares how faith, perseverance, and God’s timing have carried her through the highs and lows of her career. We unpack what it really means to trust God in an industry built on uncertainty, when “no” doesn’t mean “never,” when the spotlight fades, and when the journey looks different from what you imagined. Rachel opens up about learning to see closed doors as divine redirection, staying grounded in prayer through the waiting, and why her goal is simple but powerful: to make God famous through her life and gift. This conversation is full of heart, from childhood memories of growing up in church and finding community, to rediscovering peace during the pandemic, to falling in love again with the accessibility and beauty of God’s presence in everyday life. Scriptures mentioned: Psalms 42:5, Jeremiah 29, Romans 8:28, 2 Corinthians 12:9 Chapters (00:00:17) - Meet Rachel John(00:06:46) - How Do You Prepare For An Audition?(00:12:53) - Making God Famous(00:19:47) - Wisdom in social media debates(00:23:17) - Rachel on Why She Did The Lion King(00:29:39) - What the Church Means(00:39:14) - Working Through Difficult Seasons(00:44:37) - How to Get Through a Challenging Day(00:48:45) - How God's Love Can Be Accessed(00:51:13) - Rachel on Her Hymns Album

    59 min

About

Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate