Working Out God

Beulah & Toyin

Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate

  1. Called to Show Up | Serving Where You Are

    17H AGO

    Called to Show Up | Serving Where You Are

    Faith on the frontlines doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes it looks like showing up, listening well, and choosing to care in the everyday. Katie shares her journey into youth services, from discovering a natural gift for connecting with people to working with women and families in crisis, and now leading within a local council supporting young people facing complex challenges. Her story isn’t built on one defining moment, but on a steady willingness to follow where God leads and serve the people in front of her.  We talk about what it really means to “be with people” — sitting in difficult stories, navigating trauma, and walking alongside others without always having quick answers. Katie opens up about the emotional weight of the work, the challenge of switching off, and the tension of wanting to give everything while learning to find balance. The conversation also brings it back to the everyday. From knocking on neighbours’ doors during COVID to building community on her street, Katie shares how small, simple acts of love can create real impact and how the “mission field” is often much closer than we think. We reflect on calling, staying the path when things feel slow or heavy, and what it means to be faithful with what’s in your hands. A reminder that impact doesn’t always look big…sometimes it looks like consistency, presence, and choosing to show up again. Chapters (00:00:17) - Working Out God(00:01:19) - Teaching in the Youth Services(00:03:34) - The role of the local council leader(00:05:17) - Katie's Career and Faith in Action(00:07:36) - "Being With the People"(00:10:54) - How do you live out your faith in the workplace?(00:13:42) - The Balance between Work and Family(00:19:07) - The Importance of Hope in Working With People(00:21:46) - Katie on her call to frontline roles(00:31:15) - On the Mission Field(00:33:51) - How to Love Your Neighbors(00:37:29) - How do you want to land on the gates of heaven?(00:44:06) - Staying the Path

    49 min
  2. Called to Care | You Can’t Do Everything, But You Can Do Something

    APR 29

    Called to Care | You Can’t Do Everything, But You Can Do Something

    In this episode, we sit down with Ralph Boer to talk about social impact, justice, compassion, and what it really means to live out faith beyond good intentions. Ralph shares his journey from growing up in the Netherlands, to working in communications, to gradually stepping into a calling shaped not by one dramatic moment, but by consistently leaning into where God was leading — from washing student dishes, to youth work, to refugee response, homelessness, and social impact. His story is a reminder that calling often unfolds step by step, through simple obedience and a willingness to respond.  We talk about the realities of frontline work — the weight of refugee crises, homelessness, and systemic injustice — and the challenge of keeping your heart soft when the needs feel overwhelming. Ralph opens up about some of the hardest moments he’s faced, from the refugee camps in Calais to walking with vulnerable people through uncertainty, and shares how prayer, surrender, and community help him keep going. This conversation also challenges the idea that social impact is for “certain people” or specific careers. Ralph reminds us that for believers, living out justice, compassion, and practical love isn’t optional — it’s part of following Jesus. Whether that looks like advocacy, volunteering, giving, encouragement, or simply learning someone’s name, we all have a role to play. This episode is a powerful reminder that while we can’t do everything, we can all do something — and that faith on the frontlines often starts closer to home than we think. Scriptures mentioned: Luke 4:18–19, Matthew 25:35–36, Isaiah 58, Isaiah 1:17. Chapters (00:00:17) - Working Out God: Faith in the Real World(00:09:00) - Living in the Will of God(00:13:35) - What is Social Impact of the Church?(00:24:46) - Community involvement in the fight for the sick(00:25:22) - Practical ways people can get involved in social issues(00:27:34) - Social Impact and The Gospel(00:31:18) - Fighting the Calais Jungle(00:38:01) - How do I find God's strength in all of that?(00:38:48) - Peter's understanding of God's heart for people(00:47:23) - God's journey with you(00:47:35) - Scriptures for social impact work(00:51:50) - Be the Hands of the Poor

    53 min
  3. God at Work | Faith on the Frontlines

    APR 15

    God at Work | Faith on the Frontlines

    We’re back for Season 2 of Working of God! In this first episode, we introduce a new theme that’s been deeply on our hearts — God at Work: Faith on the Frontlines. We open up about why this season matters so much to us, and the moments that have shaped that conviction — from quiet prayers asking God to “break our hearts for what breaks His,” to personal experiences that have stirred a deeper awareness of the needs around us. While our day-to-day work may not sit on the traditional “frontlines,” we explore how this calling isn’t limited to a specific role — but something every one of us is invited into. We talk about what it looks like to live out faith in real, practical ways — in our workplaces, our communities, and in the everyday moments we often overlook. From small acts of kindness to deeper questions around purpose, surrender, and obedience, this conversation sets the foundation for a season focused on people, compassion, and being the hands and feet of Jesus. We also reflect on powerful stories — from mission work to moments that challenge the way we think about success, security, and calling — and wrestle with what it means to truly offer God everything we have, not just what feels comfortable. As we begin this season, our heart is simple: to shine a light on the work being done on the frontlines, to learn from those living it out daily, and to encourage each of us to ask, “God, what can I do?” Resource mentioned: Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger.

    49 min
  4. God, Faith, Steps and Success | Season 1 Reflections

    12/17/2025

    God, Faith, Steps and Success | Season 1 Reflections

    In this episode, we pause to reflect on the conversations we’ve had so far, the themes that have continued to surface, and what God has been quietly highlighting throughout the season. We talk about the stories our guests shared — how clarity rarely came all at once, how plans shifted, and how faith often looked like taking the next step without having the full picture. We reflect on what it means to trust God without certainty, and how obedience sometimes comes before understanding. We also draw on reflections from Relentless Pursuit by Ben Cooley, exploring ideas around calling, frustration, creativity, and why reaching the end of a season doesn’t mean something has gone wrong. We talk about how frustration can be a signpost, and how God often uses the things that stir us most to shape what we’re called to create and contribute, right where we are. The episode closes with a reflection inspired by a recent trip to Rome and the story of Peter — a reminder that calling isn’t about platforms or outcomes, but about faithfulness, obedience, and keeping our eyes on Jesus, one step at a time. A reflective pause before we close out the year together. Chapters (00:05:48) - The Will of God(00:12:01) - Using Your Frustration as a Fuel for Purpose(00:18:40) - Reflections in Rome(00:20:37) - What Was Your Highlights of Rome?(00:24:41) - A Calling for All(00:29:11) - The Legacy of Peter(00:32:06) - God Will Use Each One Of You

    34 min
  5. The Door That Said “No” and the Calling That Said “Go”

    12/10/2025

    The Door That Said “No” and the Calling That Said “Go”

    Join us as we sit down with Lloydette Bai-Marrow — solicitor advocate, anti-corruption expert, founder of Parametric Global Consulting, and someone whose career path has been anything but straightforward. From deciding at six years old that she would become a lawyer (after an argument with her grandmother), to navigating rejection, career setbacks, and unexpected redirections, Lloydette shares how God led her step-by-step, often through seasons that made no sense until much later. She opens up about how she finished university with a result that left her discouraged and questioning everything, almost giving up, until God gave her a simple instruction that carried her through years of “no’s”: keep going. We talk about the moments that shaped her faith, from crying on the Tube after long days in court, to the shock of God reminding her that she would only be a “traditional lawyer” for the short-to-mid term, to the terrifying peace of leaving her dream job at the Serious Fraud Office with no clear plan other than obedience. Lloydette also shares how she navigated marriage, motherhood, fear, finances, closed doors, and God’s “Denzel Washington slam” when she tried to return to corporate life, only to realise God was protecting the assignment He had given her. Today, she sits on major UK boards, leads high-profile investigations, and intentionally brings God into every room she enters, one prayerful step at a time. This conversation is full of wisdom for anyone wrestling with uncertainty, career crossroads, or the pressure to have life perfectly figured out. It’s about courage, calling, obedience, and recognising that sometimes God speaks loudly and sometimes He says, “now go”.

    1h 7m
  6. Dreaming Big, Starting Small & Trusting God Through It All

    12/03/2025

    Dreaming Big, Starting Small & Trusting God Through It All

    In this episode, we sit down with TV presenter, actress and creative educator Joanna Adeyinka-Burford to talk about faith, identity, wellbeing, and learning to trust God in a career that doesn’t always follow a straight line. Joanna shares her earliest memories of faith — writing little worship songs at five years old — and how that childlike desire to know God shaped her creativity later in life. Growing up in a musical household, training at Italia Conti and New York Film Academy, and launching her presenting career through a Channel 5 competition, her journey has been anything but predictable. From CBeebies to pantomime, teaching, acting and now writing a devotional for children, Jo reflects on the twists, shifts and surprises that have marked her path.  We talk about wellbeing, list-making, navigating the unknowns of self-employment, and the moment she learned to stop praying “Lord, let me get this job” and started praying “Lord, let me walk with You.” Jo also opens up about grief, losing her best friend in 2020, and how God met her in the questions, the why’s, the wrestling, and the slow healing.  This conversation explores faith in real life — in creativity, career, trust, parenting, rest, identity, and those seasons where God invites us to come to Him exactly as we are. Chapters (00:00:00) - Interviewing Joanna Adeyinka Burford(00:02:03) - My earliest faith memory(00:04:05) - How Does God Fit Into Your Lists?(00:07:09) - The Wellbeing Project(00:11:14) - How My Career Has Been Stabilised By My Faith(00:17:33) - Joanna on Writing a Book(00:22:35) - Good Grief in the Life(00:24:28) - What Happens When Our Prayers Are Not Answered?(00:26:25) - How to Grieve Well(00:34:50) - Coming to God: The Psalms(00:36:44) - Who's Your Faith Warrior?(00:39:05) - The Importance of Believing in Yourself(00:47:45) - What Does Rest Look Like For You?(00:53:13) - Jo on her faith journey

    56 min

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Welcome to Working Out God — a podcast where faith meets your personal and professional journey. Hosted by Beulah and Toyin, this series dives into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength, purpose, and guidance through their faith while navigating the unique challenges of their industries. Each episode explores how belief shapes professional life — the balance of being a Christian in today’s workplace, the lessons learned along the way, and the inspirational figures who have influenced these journeys of faith. From professionals and entrepreneurs to industry heavyweights and everyday believers, we engage in candid conversations that uncover the profound impact of faith on work, life, and calling and ask the question: how might our careers and lives look different without it? Music by The Porters Gate