Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast

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Learn from industry leaders and experts across bitcoin, real estate, and global macro as they discuss what's happening and what's over the horizon.

  1. Bitcoin Crashes to $67,000: Navigating The Bear Market with Caleb Franzen

    FEB 5

    Bitcoin Crashes to $67,000: Navigating The Bear Market with Caleb Franzen

    In this episode of Over The Horizon, I’m joined by Caleb Franzen, Founder of Cubic Analytics, to break down why Bitcoin’s crash to $67,000 matters and what the data says about where price could go next. Caleb explains why the breakdown below the 2-day 200 moving average is so important, how risk appetite is collapsing across speculative assets, and how investors should think about survival, capitulation, and accumulation during a Bitcoin bear market. Follow Caleb on X → https://x.com/CalebFranzen Cubic Analytics → https://cubicanalytics.substack.com Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites.

    1h 3m
  2. Why Bitcoin Is Headed to $10,000,000 with Rajat Soni

    JAN 28

    Why Bitcoin Is Headed to $10,000,000 with Rajat Soni

    Rajat Soni is a CFA charterholder who worked in traditional finance for nearly a decade. Today, he creates personal finance and bitcoin content full time. In this episode, we break down why bitcoin is cash, why real estate became financialized into a distorted savings vehicle, and why inflation is required for the current system to function. We discuss why “bitcoin has no cash flow” misses the point entirely, why leverage is dangerous for most people, how emergency funds should actually be structured, and why real wealth is built during bear markets, not bull markets. Rajat also lays out his long-term thesis for why bitcoin could reach $10,000,000 as it absorbs the monetary premium from real estate, bonds, gold, and other traditional stores of value. Guest links Rajat on X → https://x.com/Rajatsoni Rajat on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@rajatsonifinance Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti

    1h 3m
  3. $340,000 Bitcoin Before the Next Halving with British HODL

    JAN 22

    $340,000 Bitcoin Before the Next Halving with British HODL

    In this episode, I sit down with British HODL, one of the most direct voices in Bitcoin and a former real estate, gold, and TradFi investor who went all-in after understanding Bitcoin’s monetary nature. We cover why Bitcoin is now the global liquidity sink, why BlackRock’s ETF was the most important event in Bitcoin’s history, and why the four-year cycle is effectively over. We also dig into Bitcoin versus real estate, capital flight from housing, institutional absorption, and why owning Bitcoin has become a question of allocation rather than belief. Topics we discuss: Why Bitcoin is absorbing global liquidity Real estate’s declining role as a store of value Why BlackRock’s ETF changed everything The death of the four-year cycle narrative Institutional absorption vs retail speculation Why Bitcoin still looks “boring” before its next major move British HODL’s $340k Bitcoin thesis before the next halving If you’re trying to understand where Bitcoin sits in the global financial system today, and what actually matters from here, this conversation lays it out clearly. Guest links Follow British HODL on X → https://x.com/BritishHodl British HODL on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@BritishHodl Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites.

    54 min
  4. Bitcoin for Growth, Real Estate for Cash Flow with Grant Cardone

    JAN 8

    Bitcoin for Growth, Real Estate for Cash Flow with Grant Cardone

    In this episode, I’m joined by Grant Cardone to break down one of the most important investing conversations happening right now: bitcoin and real estate. We start with what’s happening on the ground. Grant’s Malibu home was damaged in the Palisades fire, and more than a year later, California still won’t allow basic repairs. From there, we unpack how regulation, taxation, and political incentives are reshaping where capital flows. Then we get into the core framework Grant uses today: • Why real estate works for cash flow, but struggles as a long-term growth asset • Why bitcoin has emerged as a superior growth and opportunity-cost hedge • How Cardone Capital is combining real estate income with bitcoin on the balance sheet • Why Grant believes the REIT industry is overdue for disruption • What wealth building actually looks like in a system that keeps changing the rules We also close on mindset. Why resentment toward money repels it, why respect for capital matters, and how long-term wealth is built across cycles. This is a deep, honest conversation about capital, incentives, and positioning yourself for what comes next. Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Grant on X → https://x.com/GrantCardone Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites. Subscribe to Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast on Soundwise

    1h 1m
  5. Bitcoin’s Lost Year, the Rise of Silver, and the AI Shock with Tad Smith

    12/31/2025

    Bitcoin’s Lost Year, the Rise of Silver, and the AI Shock with Tad Smith

    In this New Year’s Eve episode of Over The Horizon, I’m joined by Tad Smith, Partner at 50T Funds and former CEO of Sotheby’s and the Madison Square Garden Company. We reflect on one of the strangest market years in recent memory and look ahead to what 2026 may bring. We cover: • Why silver and gold dominated 2025 while bitcoin lagged • The rise of speculative behavior and the “prison of financial mediocrity” • AI’s impact on white-collar jobs and the future of work • Whether AI creates abundance or accelerates inequality • Bitcoin’s role as hard money in a world of expanding social safety nets • The future of art in the age of AI • Why bitcoin treasury companies struggled in 2025 • Bitcoin vs gold vs real estate as long-term stores of value • Tad’s outlook for liquidity, markets, and geopolitics in 2026 Follow Tad on X → https://x.com/TadTweets Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation 00:00 Reflections on 2025: A Year of Surprises 01:34 The Impact of Financial Hardship on Behavior 04:28 The Rise of Monetary Metals 07:24 The Prison of Financial Mediocrity 10:00 The Role of AI in the Economy 12:57 The Future of Work and Job Displacement 15:55 Bitcoin and Hard Money in an Abundant Future 18:54 AI and the Future of Art 29:01 The Nature of Art and Creativity 31:54 The Value of Human Art in a Digital Age 35:43 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: Performance and Challenges 38:29 The Impact of Volatility on Bitcoin 47:44 Bitcoin vs. Gold and Real Estate: The Future of Value 51:00 Looking Ahead: Predictions for 2026 Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites. Subscribe to Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast on Soundwise

    55 min
  6. Why Bitcoin Could Hit $250k+ in the Next Cycle with Lawrence Lepard

    12/16/2025

    Why Bitcoin Could Hit $250k+ in the Next Cycle with Lawrence Lepard

    In this episode of Over The Horizon, I’m joined by Lawrence Lepard, Managing Partner at Equity Management Associates, co-founder of the Bitcoin Opportunity Fund, and author of The Big Print. We focus on why the next bitcoin cycle could be far larger than many expect, with Lawrence laying out a framework that points to $250k+ bitcoin as monetary policy, debt growth, and inflation pressures collide. We also discuss why gold tends to lead during periods of debasement, and why bitcoin historically follows with greater magnitude. We cover: • Why the Fed’s latest balance sheet expansion is effectively money printing • The debt doom loop and fiscal dominance • Why gold leads and bitcoin follows harder • Lawrence’s framework for a $250k+ bitcoin cycle • Whether the four-year bitcoin cycle still applies • What rising adoption means for bitcoin’s long-term trajectory If you’re trying to understand where bitcoin could go next and what’s driving this cycle beneath the surface, this conversation connects the dots. Follow Lawrence Lepard on X → https://x.com/LawrenceLepard Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites. Subscribe to Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast on Soundwise

    1h 2m
  7. Bitcoin's Bear Market, 4-Year Cycles, and the Path to $1M with Mark Yusko

    12/11/2025

    Bitcoin's Bear Market, 4-Year Cycles, and the Path to $1M with Mark Yusko

    In this episode, Mark Yusko joins me for a wide-ranging conversation on innovation, Bitcoin, AI, the Federal Reserve, and the forces shaping the next decade of markets. We cover: • How innovation functions as an asset class • Why inflation is theft and how the Fed creates a K-shaped economy • Market manipulation, price controls, and why interest rates should be set by markets • The role of data, chips, and AI in the next global power shift • Bitcoin’s four-year cycle, Metcalfe’s Law valuation, and expectations heading into 2026 • Why decentralized systems matter more than ever Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites. Subscribe to Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast on Soundwise

    1h 11m
  8. Bitcoin Treasury Warfare: Jesse Myers on Hedge Fund Pressure, Sentiment, and Bitcoin's Outlook

    11/26/2025

    Bitcoin Treasury Warfare: Jesse Myers on Hedge Fund Pressure, Sentiment, and Bitcoin's Outlook

    In this episode of Over The Horizon, I sit down with Jesse Myers, Head of Bitcoin Strategy at The Smarter Web Company, for one of the most comprehensive breakdowns yet of what’s really happening inside Bitcoin treasury companies. We dig into: • Why SmarterWeb now holds 2,664 BTC, making it the UK’s largest Bitcoin treasury • How the tide went out on Bitcoin treasuries over the last four months • The hedge-fund short trade (the “Chanos trade”) and how it distorted valuations • How PIPE deals created toxic incentives — and why retail holders paid the price • The difference between SmarterWeb’s model and the wave of copycat structures • What sub-1× MNAV really means and why buybacks become extremely powerful there • Why Bitcoin measured in gold terms shows we haven’t had a real bull market yet • OG whales vs. the new institutional bid (ETFs, sovereign entities, fixed-income allocators) • Why Bitcoin treasury companies will become pipelines for TradFi capital • The coming rise of Bitcoin-powered fixed-income and “digital credit” markets Jesse lays out how Bitcoin treasury companies actually work, how they access capital market tools unavailable to individuals, and why this is only the first year of a decades-long shift in how global capital allocators buy bitcoin. If you want to understand the mechanics, risks, and future trajectory of Bitcoin treasury companies, this is the episode. Follow Jesse on X → https://x.com/Croesus_BTC Stack Bitcoin using your home equity → https://joinhorizon.com See your home's Bitcoin potential → https://joinhorizon.com/calculator Schedule a 1-on-1 consultation → https://calendly.com/d/cryw-39y-2j4/horizon-consultation Follow Joe on X → https://x.com/JoeConsorti 00:00 Introduction to Bitcoin Strategy and Smarter Web 01:37 Current State of Bitcoin Treasury Companies 04:22 Market Sentiment and Bitcoin Valuation 07:21 Impact of Hedge Funds on Bitcoin Treasury Companies 09:50 The Role of PIPE Deals in Market Dynamics 11:59 SmarterWeb's Unique Approach to Bitcoin Treasury 14:27 Share Buybacks and Their Implications 17:05 Future Outlook for Bitcoin and Treasury Companies 19:26 Bitcoin's Current Market Dynamics 25:47 Institutional Influence on Bitcoin 32:18 Understanding Bitcoin Treasury Companies 39:13 Future Trends in Bitcoin and Finance Disclaimer: Horizon is a technology company that helps users buy and custody their Bitcoin and does not directly provide financial or investment services. Horizon connects homeowners with licensed home equity investment providers but does not act as an agent or broker for the homeowner or any third party. Homeowners should consult their financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decision. For additional information, please refer to our FAQ, terms and conditions, and our preferred providers' websites. Subscribe to Over The Horizon: A Bitcoin Podcast on Soundwise

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