The Facilities Management Exchange

Mark Robinson

The new leading Facilities Management podcast. 🎙️ What to Expect-In-depth conversations with experts across the FM/PM industry-Real-world experiences and success stories-Emerging trends, technology, and strategies shaping the sectorWhether you’re a facilities manager, service provider, or simply passionate about the built environment, this podcast will be your go-to source for knowledge and inspiration.

  1. #12 - Discovering Leadership - Andrew Hulbert

    2D AGO

    #12 - Discovering Leadership - Andrew Hulbert

    Welcome to Episode #12 of The Facilities Management Exchange Today we’re joined by Andrew Hulbert — entrepreneur, investor, culture-builder and one of the most recognisable figures in UK FM. Andrew is the founder of Pareto FM, a business he grew from a laptop in his bedroom into one of the industry’s most admired companies, ultimately exiting in a deal worth $100 million. This episode is an honest, energising conversation covering entrepreneurship, culture, politics, pressure, sacrifice… and the mindset required to build something truly exceptional. In this episode expect: Why showing up — literally going to the office — is still one of the most underrated success strategies in businessHow Andrew built the company from a laptop in his bedroomWhat made Pareto FM different — adaptability, treating people right, and building a culture where anyone could call anyone outThe realities of running an FM company in today’s volatile economic environmentThe personal cost of ambition — relationships, loneliness, sacrificeThe deeper meaning of wealthProfessional vulnerability: why great leaders don’t need all the answersAndrew’s biggest leadership mistake — and what he’d do differently if he The advice he wants every entrepreneur — and every young person entering FM — to hearThis is an episode packed with insights, honesty, humour, and hard-won wisdom from someone who built, scaled and exited one of the most transformative businesses in FM.

    1h 22m
  2. Episode #8 - Discovering LGBTQ+ in FM - Steven Downie, Satia Rai and Craig Dougal

    FEB 13

    Episode #8 - Discovering LGBTQ+ in FM - Steven Downie, Satia Rai and Craig Dougal

    In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Mark is joined by three inspiring leaders from the world of Facilities Management and Security: Satia Rai, Steven Downie and Craig Dougal. Satia Rai is a recognised global leader in the private security sector, COO of Leverage Security and CEO of the International Professional Security Association (IPSA). With nearly 30 years’ experience, she has led transformational change across the industry and founded Security Industry Pride in London and the International Women’s Day campaign for security professionals. In this episode, Satia opens up like never before—sharing untold stories about identity, faith, leadership, and why she will always choose people over profit. Craig Dougal, an experienced Engineering Manager and HV Authorising Engineer, manages risk across large-scale facilities and critical environments. With a career spanning electrical engineering, business continuity and operations management, Craig brings both technical authority and raw honesty—sharing his journey through bullying, career pivots, and the power of conversation in creating real change. Steven Downie, a facilities and real estate leader with expertise in large portfolios, refurbishments and ESG, speaks candidly about leading with knowledge, resilience and integrity. From running major refurb projects to championing inclusion, Steven shares how his experiences—from school bullying to senior leadership—shaped his approach to people, culture and respect in the workplace. This episode moves beyond job titles. It’s about identity, resilience, leadership and the responsibility that comes with influence. In this episode we talk about:  Coming out journeysHow we can change bullying in schools and the workplaceDEI, "woke" culture and legislationLeadership approachesThe power of conversation and community.

    1h 26m

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The new leading Facilities Management podcast. 🎙️ What to Expect-In-depth conversations with experts across the FM/PM industry-Real-world experiences and success stories-Emerging trends, technology, and strategies shaping the sectorWhether you’re a facilities manager, service provider, or simply passionate about the built environment, this podcast will be your go-to source for knowledge and inspiration.