Living The Third Way

Shaelyn and Adrian Misiak

Family is complicated.  Even the people we love most can hurt us... and we can hurt them.  Sometimes it feels like the only way to protect yourself is to either run away from it all — or stuff everything down and pretend you’re fine. We get it. Because we’ve lived it. We’re Shae and Adrian Misiak — Catholic mentors and mental health professionals — doing the hard and beautiful work of healing family wounds while raising a family of our own. If you’ve ever felt stuck between cutting off a parent to survive,or staying quiet to keep the peace… we’re here to tell you: there’s another way. And this podcast explores what that actually looks like. Here are some of the themes you’ll hear us talk about: the messy reality of family lifenavigating difficult relationships with integrityforgiveness that doesn’t ask you to forget the pastgrief that doesn’t require you to shut down lovewhere and how God is working in the places that feel most broken These episodes will meet you where you are and walk with you toward where God is inviting you to go. You'll find honest conversations about becoming whole in real time, as we learn to love with both courage and compassion. If you’re trying to build a healthier family than the one you came from,or if you simply want to stop carrying all of this alone… put us in your earbuds and listen along. Walk with us as we explore what it takes to live the Third Way —where joy is found, right alongside the hard and holy work of healing.

Episodes

  1. 5D AGO

    Self-Reliance Is a House of Cards: Why “manifesting” can’t save you and what actually can

    Self-reliance often begins as survival and slowly becomes a prison. In this episode of Living the Third Way, Shae and Adrian explore how self-reliance forms in families where it wasn’t safe to struggle, need help, or fail. What begins as a protective adaptation can quietly turn into a belief that you must carry life alone and that suffering means you’re doing something wrong. They examine how modern manifestation culture and New Thought spirituality reinforce this pattern by promising control over reality, while subtly placing the full weight of healing, happiness, and meaning back onto the individual. When pain can’t be “thought away,” it easily becomes personal failure. Through the lens of Catholic anthropology and personalism, Shae and Adrian offer a different path: healing that happens in relationship, identity that is received rather than constructed, and a vision of the human person as a mind–body–soul unity. This episode invites listeners to lay down the exhausting work of doing life alone and to discover why dependence, rightly understood, is not weakness, but mercy. Interested in deeper support? We offer daily mentorship for individuals navigating family wounds, emotional overwhelm, and the slow work of healing in relationship. You can find out more at our website: https://adrianandshae.com  We’re also currently building a waitlist for the next cohort of our group program, Unmeshed, which guides participants through disentangling from family enmeshment and reclaiming their God-given identity through psychological and spiritual integration. Email us to express interest or be notified about the next cohort: hello@adrianandshae.com Referenced in this episode The Mindful Catholic by Dr. Greg Bottaro

    1h 8m
  2. JAN 7

    Self-Stewardship, Not Self-Improvement: What If This Year Is an Experiment?

    The start of a new year often brings resolutions, pressure, and quiet disappointment when we don’t live up to our plans. But what if there’s a different way to begin? In this episode, we propose an alternative to self-improvement: self-stewardship. Rather than fixing or optimizing yourself, what if this year became an experiment — a chance to see whether caring for the self you’ve been given actually leads to more freedom, presence, and life? We explore what it looks like to tend to your interior life with curiosity instead of pressure. We reflect on how small shifts in attention, care, and responsibility can quietly reshape not only your own experience, but also the way you show up in relationships — including family life. This conversation is an invitation to begin the year without urgency, guilt, or grand promises — and instead, to stay long enough with yourself to discover what’s truly life-giving. ____________ If this conversation resonates, we invite you to continue the exploration with us. Our upcoming free webinar offers space to look more closely at how self-stewardship and relational healing intersect, especially within family dynamics. You can find out more here: https://unmeshed.online And for those longing for deeper, ongoing accompaniment, our daily mentorship is a place to heal and practice this way of relating to yourself and others with support, clarity, and presence. You can find out more here: https://adrianandshae.com

    55 min
  3. 11/19/2025

    Inside the Story That Started Third Way Mentorship (plus some holiday survival tips!)

    In this episode, we pull back the curtain on the real beginning of Third Way Mentorship — long before we ever had a name for it. We start with a simple question we get all the time:  What is mentorship, and how did we end up doing this work? We share how daily accompaniment became not just a professional calling, but the very thing that transformed our lives, our marriage, and the way we relate to the people we love most. Inside this episode, we explore: • What mentorship actually is • How our own mentorship journeys changed our marriage • How moving into my parents guesthouse forced us to face wounds we had avoided • How that season became the kickstarter for Third Way Mentorship • And lastly, what to do when the holidays feel heavy or complicated You’ll leave this episode with a deeper understanding of where our work comes from — not an abstract theory, but real relationship, real wounds, and real healing that unfolded in the pressure cooker of family life. If you’ve ever wondered whether change inside your family is possible… If you’re longing for a more connected, grounded holiday season… Or if you simply want to understand the heart behind Third Way Mentorship… This episode is for you. __________ As mentioned in the episode — join us on November 23rd for our webinar! We’re hosting a free live webinar where we’ll teach you how to navigate family dynamics without losing yourself, shutting down, or blowing up. The Way of Unmeshment: How to Find Peace With Your Family Without Cutting Them Off 🗓 Sunday, November 23  ⏰ 7pm CST / 8pm ET  🎟 Save your seat → [Register Here] ____________ If this episode resonates with you and you want support as you navigate your own family dynamics — especially heading into the holidays — you can learn more or book a free call with us at adrianandshae.com.

    1h 17m
  4. 11/01/2025

    Why We're Launching on All Saints Day: Communion, Community, and the Work of Healing

    We launched on All Saints Day because we want the saints’ intercession over this work—and because their lives show us what integrated, grace-filled healing looks like. In this first conversation, we unpack the Communion of Saints, what healthy community is meant to give us (love, belonging, formation), and why so many of us feel isolated in a culture of dis-integration—often beginning in the family, the “cell of society.” We name the pain without getting stuck in blame. Adrian shares a personal story, and together we explore how owning our woundedness—rather than fixing, minimizing, or avoiding it—opens real relationship with one another and with those who’ve gone before us. What we cover Why All Saints Day matters for this podcast and our missionA simple, lived explanation of the Communion of SaintsCommunity as a human necessity (beyond basic needs: love & belonging)How cultural disintegration shows up first in families—and what that meansMoving from victimhood to responsibility without self-shameAdrian’s personal example of taking ownership and choosing repairHow acknowledging wounds becomes the doorway to deep communionClosing intercessory prayer asking a few saints who’ve shaped our story to pray with usThree takeaways You’re made for communion. Isolation isn’t just uncomfortable—it’s contrary to who you are.Naming the wound is not failure. It’s the start of healing and real connection.Responsibility is freedom. Refusing blame narratives gives you the power to love with integrity.Try this this week Name one pattern in your family story without judgment.Ask a favorite saint to intercede for you specifically in that place.Take one small step of responsibility (a boundary, an apology, a request for help).Resources & links Our website: adrianandshae.comSay hello or send questions/feedback: hello@adrianandshae.com Support the show If this episode served you, please rate, review, and share the podcast with a friend who needs hope before the holidays. Your support helps others find this work.

    37 min

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About

Family is complicated.  Even the people we love most can hurt us... and we can hurt them.  Sometimes it feels like the only way to protect yourself is to either run away from it all — or stuff everything down and pretend you’re fine. We get it. Because we’ve lived it. We’re Shae and Adrian Misiak — Catholic mentors and mental health professionals — doing the hard and beautiful work of healing family wounds while raising a family of our own. If you’ve ever felt stuck between cutting off a parent to survive,or staying quiet to keep the peace… we’re here to tell you: there’s another way. And this podcast explores what that actually looks like. Here are some of the themes you’ll hear us talk about: the messy reality of family lifenavigating difficult relationships with integrityforgiveness that doesn’t ask you to forget the pastgrief that doesn’t require you to shut down lovewhere and how God is working in the places that feel most broken These episodes will meet you where you are and walk with you toward where God is inviting you to go. You'll find honest conversations about becoming whole in real time, as we learn to love with both courage and compassion. If you’re trying to build a healthier family than the one you came from,or if you simply want to stop carrying all of this alone… put us in your earbuds and listen along. Walk with us as we explore what it takes to live the Third Way —where joy is found, right alongside the hard and holy work of healing.