The Sage Stage Podcast

Jane and Chandra

We are two women fed up with living small. This is our journey. (btw, we say f**k a lot, and don't edit our shit).

  1. Oct 27

    One Year Later: We’re Still Here. What the Hell?!

    🎂 One year later, we're still here. What the hell?! 😂 A year ago, Chandra Pepper and Jane Watson made a promise to stick with their new podcast for one year. They did it. And now they're celebrating the first birthday of The Sage Stage with a conversation about everything they've learned, everything that's changed, and why they're only just getting started. In this special anniversary episode, two Gen X women in their 50s get honest about midlife reinvention, imposter syndrome, friendship, boundaries, self-worth, creativity and the courage to keep showing up. We talk about why it's easier to keep a commitment to someone else than to ourselves, why experienced women struggle to call themselves experts, and how we can spend decades building skills and still feel like we're somehow not qualified to own them. We also reflect on the realities of starting a podcast: the creative highs, the technical headaches, the social media algorithms, the unexpected wins, and the challenge of turning something we love into something sustainable. But this isn't just a podcast birthday party. It's a conversation about becoming more ourselves. We explore saying no to things that drain us, listening to our bodies, trusting our intuition, letting go of other people's expectations, and making room for new adventures even when they scare the hell out of us. Plus, we ask each other revealing questions about what we've learned over the past year, what we'd do if the podcast became wildly successful overnight, and why we'd be spectacularly bad at most reality TV shows. There are heartfelt moments, feminist rants, inappropriate future retirement plans, and a discussion about the unexpected places hair seems to appear as women get older. Because apparently, the universe has a sense of humour. 🤣 Underneath it all is a reminder that you don't need to have everything figured out to build something meaningful. If you're a woman over 40 or 50 navigating a midlife pivot, rediscovering your confidence, setting stronger boundaries, exploring creative ambitions, or figuring out what you want the next chapter of life to look like, you're in the right place. We're not here to tell you how to live. We're here to share what we're learning, laugh at ourselves, challenge the rules, and remind each other that getting older doesn't mean getting smaller. One year down. Another year ahead. And, apparently, still a lot to talk about. Happy birthday to The Sage Stage! 💜 Follow the podcast on Spotify, share the episode with a friend, and tell us: What's one thing you've learned about yourself in the past year?

  2. Oct 20

    Are We Aging Gracefully—or Being Sold a Fix?

    Wrinkles. Botox. Collagen masks. The mysterious promise of the under-eye stick. And the question of why women are expected to fight aging like it's a personal failure. 😂 This week on The Sage Stage, Chandra and Jane are getting into skincare, anti-aging products, Botox, dermal fillers, beauty standards and the pressure women face to look younger. Jane brings her experience working in the medical aesthetics industry, including her own journey with Botox and fillers. Chandra brings her curiosity, her skincare experiments and the hope that her latest beauty purchase might finally do something about those under-eye bags. We discuss viral skincare products, TikTok and Instagram beauty trends, simple skincare routines, menopause, changing bodies, body image and why women are often taught to see aging as something that needs fixing. We're not judging anyone who chooses Botox, fillers or a ten-step skincare routine. But there's a difference between doing something because you love it and feeling that you have to do it to remain acceptable. Why are women in their 30s already terrified of wrinkles? Why are silver-haired men celebrated while women are sold endless anti-aging solutions? And how do we make choices about our appearance without letting fear make them for us? Then we get into our Three Questions segment, where we talk about saying yes to new adventures, saying no to energy-draining demands, listening to our intuition, and finding the courage to make big changes. Chandra shares why leaving an unhappy marriage was one of the wisest things she's done. Jane reflects on her mother's advice about the freedom to change your life. And we explore vulnerability, personal growth and what it means to trust yourself—even when the next step is scary as hell. There's skincare, laughter, a little oversharing, and the occasional detour into territory that probably shouldn't be discussed while applying face cream. 🤣 Because getting older is inevitable. Believing that every sign of aging makes us less valuable? That's a story worth questioning. If you're a woman over 40 or 50 navigating menopause, aging, beauty standards, self-confidence or a midlife pivot, you're in the right place. We're The Sage Stage: two Gen X women figuring out how to age, grow, change and live on our own terms—without taking ourselves too seriously. Question for you: Are your beauty routines about what makes you feel good, what you think you're supposed to do, or a little bit of both? Come tell us. 💜

  3. Oct 13

    What If Your Life DIDN'T Turn Out Wrong?

    What if your life didn't turn out wrong? What if it just turned out differently than you expected? Chandra and Jane are building something new in their 50s—and, honestly, it's a lot of work. 😂 As The Sage Stage approaches its first anniversary, they're reflecting on the highs, the frustrations, the self-doubt, the dreams that haven't quite come true, and the uncomfortable reality of trying to build a business while still having an actual life. They're doing the socials, planning events, creating workshops, chasing creative projects, and wondering why they aren't further along. Sound familiar? In this episode, we get into the messy middle of a midlife pivot: starting over in your 50s, building a creative business, overcoming procrastination, learning to put your work out into the world, and confronting the goals you once thought would define your life. Jane starts listing all the things that didn't turn out as planned. Chandra reminds her of everything she actually accomplished. And suddenly, the question changes. Maybe we haven't failed. Maybe we've been measuring our lives against a version of success that no longer fits. We talk about career changes, creative ambition, the business side of being an artist, self-doubt, friendship, accountability, and why taking your own advice can be so bloody difficult. Plus, our lightning round gets us debating whether we'd rather be admired or loved, whether we'd relive our twenties, and how much we actually want to know about what's coming next. We're not here to tell you that every setback is a blessing or that your dreams will magically come true if you manifest hard enough. We're here to talk honestly about what it takes to keep going, change direction, and build a life that feels meaningful—even when it looks nothing like the plan. If you're a woman over 40 or 50 navigating a midlife transition, career change, creative reinvention, or the feeling that you should be further along by now, pull up a chair. We're figuring it out right alongside you. Because your next chapter doesn't need to look like your original plan. It just needs to be yours. The Sage Stage — Episode 55. Two Gen X women, one very ongoing pivot, and absolutely no guarantee that we'll take our own advice.

  4. Oct 6

    The Clothes We Wear vs. Who We Really Are

    Are we still allowed to feel sexy after 50? And who, exactly, is making these rules anyway? 😂 Episode 54 starts with Chandra wondering whether she can wear a wedding dress for her second wedding at 57. Then Jane puts on a blazer and realizes she's been quietly asking herself a completely different version of the same question: Am I still worthy of being that woman? And suddenly we're talking about everything from menopause bodies and changing wardrobes to wedding dresses, lingerie, sexy boots, fishnets, confidence, sexuality, aging, femininity and the strange rules women absorb about what we're “allowed” to wear as we get older. Because sometimes it's not actually about the clothes. It's about worthiness. It's about identity. It's about the versions of ourselves we think we're supposed to leave behind. And maybe it's about giving ourselves permission to experiment again—to wear the damn blazer, buy the lingerie, put on the ridiculous boots, or wear the wedding dress simply because it makes us feel amazing. No permission slip required. Plus: teenage fashion disasters, dressing our daughters, why some clothes make us feel powerful, why others make us want to disappear, and the eternal question: Can a woman be any age, any size and still dress like she f*****g means it? (Yes.) And because this is The Sage Stage, we finish by revealing our most irrational fears. Jane's is genuinely terrifying. Chandra's involves her fingers. (Of course it does.) Episode 54 of The Sage Stage: aging, confidence, body image, sexuality, style, self-worth—and giving ourselves permission to be whoever the hell we want to be.

  5. Sep 29

    We Keep Making Ourselves Smaller. We’re Done.

    What if some of the things we say about ourselves are actually keeping us small? This week on The Sage Stage, we're catching ourselves in the act. “I don't know what I'm doing.” “I can't do it.” “I'm in so much pain.” “No, no, I've got it.” Sound familiar? We talk about overcommitting, learning when to say no, getting older and having less capacity for chaos, decision fatigue, supportive partners, and why women can be so damn good at taking care of everyone except themselves. We also get very honest about something neither of us finds particularly easy: Receiving. Why is it so hard to let someone do something nice for us without immediately saying, “No, no, no, it's okay”? Why do we feel like we have to prove we're capable? Why do we announce our limitations before anyone else can expect something from us? And what happens when those little protective habits start keeping us smaller than we actually are? We talk about theatre, creativity, relationships, saying no to things we love, knowing when to stop, listening to our bodies, and the realization that sometimes quitting something isn't failure — it's choosing what matters. Plus, we discover that accepting Chinese food can apparently be a major personal-growth exercise. 😂 After almost a year of talking about living our biggest, best lives, we're realizing that part of that means shedding some of the habits we've used to protect ourselves. We still don't have everything figured out. But maybe it's time to stop saying we don't know what we're doing. Because we do. We just happen to be doing it imperfectly. And that's okay. 🎧 Episode 53 of The Sage Stage — We Keep Making Ourselves Smaller. We're Done. Come hang out with us.

  6. Sep 22

    Who Says We’re Too Old to Wear That?

    Okay… this episode went places. We started by talking about sex, menopause and why apparently the ideal time for sex after 50 is no longer necessarily “whenever.” Then we talked about childhood, trauma, therapy, energy work, soul retrieval, marriage, aging, hobbies, creativity, clothing, double standards, restaurant etiquette… …and somehow ended up having The Great Hat Debate of 2026. 😂 But underneath all the chaos is a question we're both wrestling with: Who gets to decide what women are “too old” to do? Too old to wear short shorts? Too old to dress sexy? Too old to dance? Too old to try something new? Too old to start a new career? Too old to paint badly? Too old to give yourself permission to become someone different? Because we're starting to think the answer might be: Nobody. If you want to dance, dance. If you want to paint, paint. If you want to wear the damn outfit, wear it. You don't have to be good at it. You don't have to get paid for it. And you definitely don't have to explain yourself. We also talk honestly about menopause, libido, body confidence, aging, relationships, the weird things our brains remember (and conveniently forget), and the importance of leaning into the gifts you have — while also embracing the ones you never thought you were good at. And yes, we argue about whether men should take their hats off indoors. Chandra has opinions. Jane has opinions. Nobody is changing their mind. Probably. Welcome to The Sage Stage — where two Gen X women are figuring out what the hell comes next and refusing to quietly disappear just because we've hit a certain number. Finish it in one sentence: “A woman should never have to explain why she…” We want to hear yours. #TheSageStage #WomenOver50 #MidlifeWomen #Menopause #SexAfter50 #WomenAndAging #GenXWomen #Midlife #PersonalGrowth #SelfWorth #ConfidenceOver50 #LifeAfter50 #WomensPodcast #MidlifePodcast #WomenSupportingWomen

  7. Sep 18 ·  Bonus

    Why We Resist the Things We KNOW Are Good for Us 😂 | Weekly Win

    The Weekly Win: Don't Should All Over Me! 😂 Sometimes your Weekly Win is surviving a three-day rave. Sometimes it's starting a creative project before the last possible second. And sometimes it's realizing that the things that used to completely derail you... don't anymore. This week on The Sage Stage Weekly Win, we're talking about healthy habits, procrastination, creativity, midlife change, and the strange things our brains do when someone tells us we "should" do something. Chandra's Weekly Win? She's already started working on a play for her upcoming Theatre Orangeville production—months earlier than she normally would. She's researching, writing, thinking ahead, and generally freaking herself out by being... prepared. 😂 Jane's win involves dancing until 4 or 5 in the morning at a rave, because apparently midlife does not mean we're giving up the dance floor. We're also talking about starting new healthy habits, trying Pilates, taking a ten-minute walk, reading The Artist's Way, and why September can feel much more like a fresh start than January. And then there's the word: SHOULD. Because apparently telling yourself you should do something can be enough to make your brain respond: "F**k that." 😂 This week we're asking whether we can change those patterns, build healthier habits, and make progress without turning our lives into a giant list of things we're supposed to do. In this Weekly Win: ✨ Starting creative work earlier instead of procrastinating✨ Building healthier habits in midlife✨ Trying Pilates and getting more movement into everyday life✨ Why tiny habits can still make a difference✨ Understanding our resistance to the word "should"✨ Starting fresh in September✨ Creativity, The Artist's Way, and getting your brain moving✨ Celebrating progress that isn't dramatic✨ Looking back at how far we've come in almost a year✨ And, naturally, dancing until the middle of the night We're not reinventing ourselves overnight. We're figuring it out. One tiny win at a time. What's YOUR Weekly Win? #WeeklyWin #TheSageStage #WomenOver50 #MidlifeReinvention #HealthyHabits #PersonalGrowth #Procrastination #Midlife #LifeAfter50 #SelfDiscovery #Creativity #TheArtistsWay #NewBeginnings #SmallWins #ProgressNotPerfection #WomensPodcast #MidlifePodcast

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We are two women fed up with living small. This is our journey. (btw, we say f**k a lot, and don't edit our shit).