The JOY Hour

Maya Gandaia

Welcome to The JOY Hour with Ella Mesma. Twice a month, I sit down with visionaries, artists, and leaders who are shifting away from hustle conditioning to create from a deeper, more intuitive space: exploring the messy, beautiful journey of living and leading on their own terms. Grab a tea, get cosy, and join us for The JOY Hour

  1. Sep 27

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma Episode 88: Becoming the Forest with Warren Roberts

    ABOUT THIS EPISODEThis week I am joined by Warren Roberts, founder and CEO of Living Legacy Forest, the first company in the world creating master planned forests from human ashes. We talk about presence, abundance and “IT".Warren shares how Living Legacy Forest evolved from him thinking about how we remember people, and why he believes grief and gratitude can both be honoured at Living Legacy Forests, and the book he is writing about the one word he believes shapes our reality. We also talk about conflict as connection, and what it means to lean in to joy. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTRecorded between Bali, Indonesia and Lisbon, Portugal. We acknowledge the colonial histories connected to both places, and honour the diverse communities whose lands and labour built these cities. FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERSFree Joy Hour resource: www.goddxxpath.com/joyhourgift IN THIS EPISODE Presence over striving, and finding joy in the ordinary moments of family lifeSnapping out of lack mentality by noticing what we have6 years of journaling to joy, and the peacock and the ducksA conflict that deepened a relationshipLiving Legacy Forest: turning ashes into master planned forests at scaleThe family tree concept, generations added to one living treeUn-earthing family history and the story of the returneesWarren's book about the word "it", and how language creates realityThe invitation to reforest the planetLiving Legacy Forest, Warren's forest and legacy companyJournal to Joy, Ella's 6-year daily practiceThe Wheel of Consent, referenced by EllaDeconstructing Colonialism, Decolonizing the Imaginary, the book Ella referencesWarren's forthcoming book on the word “IT" and language TIMESTAMPS00:59 - Joining from Bali, and a recent joy in presence with family02:52 - Abundance, lack mentality and reframing what we already have04:45 - 6 years journaling to JOY, the peacock and the ducks07:53 - A conflict that brought connection rather than distance14:57 - What is Living Legacy16:50 - The scale of the forests, and cherry blossoms underfoot19:09 - The family tree, and ashes added across generations20:20 - Family history, the returnees, and finding his grandfather's grave23:30 - The book about the word “IT", and language creating reality31:48 - Expanding beyond Australia, and reforesting as legacy ABOUT THE GUESTWarren Roberts is the founder and CEO of Living Legacy Forest, the first company in the world to create brand new master planned forests from the ashes of people who have died. Operating across Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Queensland, Living Legacy Forest has spent 12 years transforming ashes into the nutrients that grow forests of cherry blossoms and jacarandas at scale, changing how people are remembered and grieved.Warren is also writing a book exploring how language, and one word in particular, shapes the reality we experience without our awareness. RESOURCES & MENTIONSLiving Legacy Forest, Warren's forest and legacy companyJournal to Joy, Ella's 6-year daily practiceThe Wheel of Consent, referenced by EllaDeconstructing Colonialism, Decolonizing the Imaginary, the book Ella referencesWarren's forthcoming book on the word “IT" and language CONNECT Ella MesmaWebsite: www.goddxxpath.comBook: www.goddxxpath.com/journal-to-joy/Current offers: www.goddxxpath.com/links/Instagram: instagram.com/ellamesma Warren RobertsLiving Legacy: https://livinglegacyforest.com/ LISTEN & SUBSCRIBEApple: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzrYouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M ACKNOWLEDGEMENTSMusic: LamRock. Brought to you by Ella and guests.

  2. Sep 13

    Episode 87: The Audacity To Create with Nicholas Ferguson

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE This week I am joined by Nicholas Ferguson, a London based artist and imagination guide who uses painting to honour the unrepeatable complexity of being human. We talk about having the audacity to come back to the thing we loved as children after years of doing what felt sensible, and what it cost us to push rather than follow our intuition. Nicholas shares how a school grade nearly kept him from calling himself an artist, and how two decades in hospitality and beauty eventually led him back home to the canvas. We talk about his burnout pattern, the nervous system work helping him recognise it early, and the immersive performance he created for Edinburgh Festival that plays on the hero's journey… as well as the audacity to create. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT Recorded between London and Lisbon, we acknowledge the colonial histories of the UK and Portugal, and honour the diverse communities whose lands and labour built these cities. FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS Download your free Joy Hour resource at www.goddxxpath.com/joyhourgift IN THIS EPISODE Turning discarded flip chart paper into abstract art Painting outdoors in mud and charcoal Painting as childhood expression before he had the words The GCSE grade that changed his path away from art school 20 years across Wallpaper, Estee Lauder and MAC Naming the burnout pattern and where it started Nervous system regulation, breathwork, forcing versus flow Icons of London, his series of 70+ watercolour portraits The immersive Hero's Journey performance he created with friends Finding his singing voice through beatboxing and vocal coaching TIMESTAMP 12:42 - Joining from Crystal Palace and Lisbon, recent joy and outdoor painting 15:56 - What is a Fermax board 18:05 - Painting as childhood expression 21:01 - The GCSE grade and art school 23:44 - Twenty years in hospitality, beauty and magazines 26:07 - Naming the burnout pattern 29:00 - Nervous system, forcing versus flow 34:51 - The Hero's Journey performance 50:55 - Where to find Nicholas ABOUT THE GUEST Nicholas Ferguson is a London based artist and imagination guide who uses creative expression to honour the unrepeatable complexity of being human. He grew up using painting to process what he felt before he had the words for it, and after two decades in hospitality, beauty and magazines he came back to the canvas.His portrait series Icons of London celebrates the imperfect perfection of being human, with over 70 watercolour portraits completed so far. His imagination practice, The Colour of Splash, creates space for people to reconnect with creativity as a compulsion and a practice, not just a talent. RESOURCES & MENTIONS Icons of London, Nicholas's portrait series The Colour of Splash, Nicolas's imagination practice and monthly workshop Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey Marv Radio, Beatboxer and Vocal Coach Dr Voice, Vocal Teacher The Shift with Giel Create Your Destiny with William Whitecloud SuperGenius with Ryan Pinnock CONNECT Ella Mesma Website: www.goddxxpath.com Book: www.goddxxpath.com/journal-to-joy/ Current offers: www.goddxxpath.com/links/ Instagram: instagram.com/ellamesma Nicholas Ferguson Website: www.thecolourofsplash.com / www.atelier-naf.com Instagram: @atelier_naf / @thecolourofsplash LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE Apple: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzr YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS Music: LamRock. Everything else: brought to you by Ella and guests.

  3. Aug 30

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma Episode 86: The Joy of the Shadow with Judith Quin

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE:This week I'm joined by the wonderful Judith Quin, multi-award winning voice coach and holistic practitioner. This conversation dived into the joy of the shadow. Judith shared the story of how her acting career led her to vocal sound healing in 2010, and how liberating her own voice became the foundation of the work she now does helping others find theirs. We talk about what shadow really means (hint: it isn't always the scary stuff), the 6 years it took her to acknowledge the truth beneath her relationship with her dad, and a remarkable story of ancestral healing that unfolded in a Temezcal ceremony in Mexico. Judith also shares her daily practice of delight, and why she's come to prefer that word over joy altogether. This is a conversation about embracing the gunk so there's room for the glory, and about what happens when we finally own who we really are out loud.LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between London, UK and East London, UK.CONTENT WARNING:This episode includes discussion of caring for a family member experiencing a mental health crisis, a reference to suicidal ideation, family estrangement and explicit language. Please take care while listening.🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS:Download your free Joy Hour resource at ⁠www.goddxxpath.com/joyhourgift⁠IN THIS EPISODE:Judith's journey from acting to vocal sound healing and confidence coachingWhat shadow work really means, and why it isn't always the scary stuffThe client whose shine became her own shadowBeing sole carer for someone experiencing a mental health crisisThe 6 year journey to healing her relationship with her fatherA story of ancestral healing that unfolded in a Temescal ceremony in MexicoHow owning the words "world class" shifted her businessDaily delights: the nightly practice that keeps her going to sleep smilingWhy Judith prefers the word delight over joyVoice as vibration, and how it reflects every experience, thought and feeling we carryTIMESTAMPS:00:01 - Welcome and introduction to Judith Quin04:30 - What Judith is currently journeying: closing a nine-year cycle11:23 - Discovering vocal sound healing, and the moment it became her calling14:03 - What shadow really means17:11 - A hellish year: sole caring through a mental health crisis21:08 - 6 years to acknowledge wanting to be wanted by her dad24:57 - The Temezcal ceremony and Ella finding her grandfather27:01 - Owning the words "world class", and what happened next32:16 - Daily delights: her nightly practice33:22 - Delight versus joy, and her complicated relationship with the word35:23 - Voice as vibration37:09 - Where to connect with JudithABOUT THE GUEST:Judith Quin is a multi-award winning voice coach and holistic practitioner who understands the profound connection between the voice and the self. Her unique approach to working with and through the voice moves beyond traditional coaching methods. In 2011, her own experience of the power of vocal sound healing became the foundation for her transition into this work, and her passion for holistic wellbeing led her to a professional coaching qualification alongside energetic and intuitive practices. She loves nothing more than the transformation that comes from liberating voices, so that people can liberate and elevate their lives.RESOURCES & MENTIONS:Ballroom Burn – Judith's dance classVocal sound healing membership – first 3 sessions freeFree monthly practice space for speaking about who you are with confidenceFree online course samplesSound healing retreats, including a seven-day retreat in September 2026CONNECT:Ella MesmaWebsite: www.goddxxpath.comBook: www.goddxxpath.com/journal-to-joy/Current Offers: www.goddxxpath.com/links/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/Judith QuinWebsite: yourwholevoice.comInstagram / Facebook / LinkedIn: (@yourwholevoice)

  4. Aug 9

    The JOY Hour hosted by Ellla Mesma Episode 85: Choosing Joy Every Day with Giel

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE:This week I'm joined by Giel, an American singer-songwriter, producer and connection curator who moved to Lisbon in 2021 and built a life there rooted in music, community and wellness. We talk about the fear that sits underneath so many of our creative gifts... the ones we've been carrying since childhood... and what it takes to keep choosing joy when life hasn't made that easy.Giel shares the story behind The Shift, the community night where I first witnessed her hold space for people to sing in public for the first time, and we talk about what it means to have someone believe in your voice before you believe in it yourself. She also opens up about a devastating loss in her life and how it led her to found Reignwel Global, a mental wellness startup serving the diaspora with culturally relevant healing practices.This is a conversation about faith, resilience and the daily choice to keep showing up in joy even when things are falling apart around you. If you've ever felt blocked in your own creative expression, or wondered how anyone keeps their light on through grief, this one is for you.LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between London, UK and Lisbon, Portugal.CONTENT WARNING:This episode discusses suicide, depression and the loss of a family member. Please take care while listening.🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS:Download your free Joy Hour resource at www.goddxxpath.com/joyhourgiftIN THIS EPISODE:The joy of building community and connection in a place where nobody knew herThe Shift: the community night where creatives find the courage to sing in publicChildlike faith and staying in "flow state" through choice, not easeThe loss of her nephew, Darius Roberts, to suicide and how it changed everythingFounding Reignwel Global, a mental wellness startup for the diasporaPursuing JOI, her personal vlog on choosing joy transparentlyTIMESTAMPS:00:01 - Welcome and introduction to Giel01:22 - Joining from Lisbon, and the story of how she got there05:17 - The recent joy of sitting in connection and community10:10 - Learning to hold space and believe in others before they believe in themselves16:22 - Flow state, resistance and the choice at the centre of it all19:01 - Faith, healing, and being honest about what joy really costs21:40 - How to connect, and an introduction to The Regulated Creative24:36 - The story of Reignwel: loss, grief and finding her purpose33:45 - Reignwel's slogan: "Here we reign well"34:16 - Where to find and connect with Giel35:32 - OutroABOUT THE GUEST:Giel is an American singer-songwriter, producer and connection curator whose work bridges music, wellness and global culture. After relocating to Lisbon in 2021, she returned to songwriting, inspired by the city's rhythm, warmth and soul. As a wellness facilitator, she creates memorable melodies and powerful anthems that resonate deeply with creatives across the global diaspora.She's the founder of Reignwel Global, a mental wellness health tech startup born from personal loss, and hosts The Shift, a community night in Lisbon where people gather to sing, share and be met exactly as they are.Giel's work is about helping people feel seen, grounded and alive.RESOURCES & MENTIONS:The Shift – community night in Lisbon (Instagram @the_shift_live)The Regulated Creative – Giel's coaching offering for artists and creatives (⁠theregulatedcreative.club⁠)Pursuing JOI – Giel's vlog (spelled J-O-I, her birth name is Joi) (Instagram: @pursuingjoi)Reignwel Global – mental wellness health tech startup, ⁠reignwel.com⁠ | @reignwelglobal  on InstagramThe eight wells of Reignwel's healing framework (Music Therapy, Art Therapy, Horticulture Therapy, Nutrition, Movement, Language, Soul Care, Community)CONNECT:Ella MesmaWebsite: www.goddxxpath.comBook: www.goddxxpath.com/journal-to-joy/Current Offers: www.goddxxpath.com/links/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/GielWebsite: reignwel.comInstagram: @heyitsgiel

  5. Jul 26

    The Joy Hour Podcast Hosted By Ella Mesma Episode 84: It's Better to Be Absolutely Ridiculous Than Absolutely Boring with Kirsty Carr

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE: Kirsty Carr is a comedian, coach, and mum who won the 2023 Australian Roast Battle Championship and is now president of Roast Battle Australia. But her story isn't just about standing on stage making people laugh... it's about taking something that was a survival mechanism at age 8 and alchemizing it into her genius, her truth, her gift to the world. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Recorded between Sydney, Australia and London, England. We acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation as the Traditional Custodians of the land where Sydney stands, and the colonial histories of both Australia and the UK. 🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERS: Download your free Joy Hour resource at www.mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift IN THIS EPISODE: How imposter syndrome stops us seeing that we have made it How career desires shift over time and what relevance means when you stop striving Juggling multiple identities: comedian, coach, consultant, mum Can you integrate spirituality, psychology, neuroscience and comedy into one path Fear doesn't go away, it just gets easier and the stakes keep rising Defense mechanisms becoming your greatest gifts The lesson of clinging to safety and getting pulled back to your real path Motherhood as forced slowing down and boundary creation Being yourself without the fear of judgment or exclusion TIMESTAMPS: 00:01 - Welcome and introduction 01:53 - What's a recent joy: booked at the Comedy Store 03:00 - Do you feel like you've made it 04:28 - Relating to dance and shifting desires over time 05:39 - Journeying: not having the same desire to train 07:11 - What are you journeying right now 09:14 - Fear of being seen and getting over yourself 10:47 - Stakes rising as you get better 12:17 - Roast battles and the fearlessness required 13:00 - Strategic preparation for roasting 14:05 - Separating the personal from the performance 15:27 - The duality of being lovely and mean 16:13 - Dance as opposite expression 20:40 - Following your true path not the money path 23:32 - Operating from fear and lack 24:06 - Getting back on your right path 25:49 - Your spirituality and coaching all weave together 27:37 - Alchemizing suppressed voices into creativity 30:23 - Balancing comedy, coaching, mum ABOUT THE GUEST: Kirsty Carr is a comedian, roast battle champion, and coach based in Sydney, Australia. Known as the Roast Queen, she won the 2023 Australian Roast Battle Championship and is now president of Roast Battle Australia, producing shows across the country. A regular in the Sydney comedy scene, she's performed at Sydney and New Zealand Fringe festivals, conquered the legendary Comedy Store in LA in late 2024, and had sellout shows at the Tokyo International Comedy Festival in 2025. Her debut stand-up hour, Me and My Drunken Inner Child, premiered at Sydney Fringe Festival in 2025 to rave reviews, and she's touring across Australia in 2026. Beyond comedy, Kirsty works as a consultant and coach, integrating her passion for psychology, neuroscience, spirituality and personal transformation. RESOURCES & MENTIONS: Roast Battle League Roast Battle Australia Yeah Mad TV Sydney Fringe Festival Tokyo International Comedy Festival Comedy Store Sydney Pen Game Rap Battle youtube.com/@PenGameRapBattle CONNECT: Kirsty Carr Instagram: @_kirstycarr_ Google: Kirsty Carr Comedian Also on: TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn Ella Mesma Website: www.mayagandaia.com Book: https://mayagandaia.com/journal-to-joy/ Current offers: https://mayagandaia.com/links/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellamesma/ LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO THE JOY HOUR: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzr YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & THANKS: Music: LamRock Everything else: Brought to you by Ella and guests ❤️ Enjoyed this episode? Like, Subscribe, and Share!

  6. Jul 12

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma... Episode 83: The Monster Is Always Smaller Than Its Shadow with Arush Bakshi

    LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT: Recorded between New Delhi and London. We acknowledge the diverse peoples and communities upon whose lands these cities stand, and the colonial histories that have shaped them. ABOUT THIS EPISODE: Arush Bakshi is an Identity Transformation Coach, health influencer, and Marketing and Operations Head at a football academy in New Delhi... and he came into this conversation with a reframe that I have been sitting with ever since. The monster is never as frightening as the shadow it casts before you face it. We talk about what shifted when Arush stopped living as though he were a guest in someone else's life, how a past life regression he did purely out of curiosity cracked open his whole relationship with responsibility, and why choosing the risk every single day, not just on the days you feel ready, is what builds real momentum. We also get into gut health, grassroots football culture in India, a Netflix script that nearly happened, and what it looks like when you follow your own compass rather than the rulebook someone else handed you. Grab your free gift from Journal to JOY: mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift IN THIS EPISODE WE EXPLORE: Why the monster is always smaller than its shadowChoosing the risk every single day, not just when motivation shows upWhat a past life regression taught Arush about responsibility and belongingHow stepping into his family rather than away from it changed everythingFinding your real capabilities rather than measuring yourself against someone else's standardBuilding three very different businesses and staying sane doing itIduna: @iduna_eternalhealthTIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Welcome 01:14 A recent joy: the best football tournament his city has ever seen 02:21 Going viral on Instagram... from 10 followers to 40,000 05:30 A past life regression he did just for fun and what it revealed 08:30 How his relationship with his family transformed 11:40 Turning inward to find his real capabilities 16:27 Choosing the risk every single day 20:13 The monster is always smaller than its shadow 25:27 What Arush is creating next: coaching, filmmaking, and a gut health brand 30:13 Iduna: the Norse goddess and the vision behind the health brand ABOUT ARUSH: Arush Bakshi is an Identity Transformation Coach based in New Delhi, helping people build their dreams through a blend of coaching, creativity, and what he calls magic. With a decade of experience in life coaching, he also heads marketing and operations at a football academy with a mission to transform grassroots football culture in India, and co-runs a health brand called Iduna, inspired by the Norse goddess whose golden apples grant the gods immortality. He works with clients across Europe and India, and filmmaking is next on his horizon. RESOURCES MENTIONED:CONNECT WITH ARUSH: Instagram: @iduna_eternalhealth Email: Arush.bakshi@gmail.com CONNECT WITH ELLA MESMA: Website: mayagandaia.com Free Gift: mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzr YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: Music by LamRock. Thank you to Arush and to you for listening.

  7. Jun 28

    The JOY Hour Podcast hosted by Ella Mesma. Episode 82: Choosing the Path That Is True with Sohyoung Ward

    ABOUT THIS EPISODE:Sohyoung Ward is the founder of True Level Leaders, and her own path took her from physicist to economist, from Wall Street to law school, from corporate restructuring attorney to holistic health counsellor and yoga teacher. In this conversation, we talk about what happens when the safe path and the true path are not the same thing... and what it costs to keep choosing safety over truth. Sohyoung shares the moment childbirth showed her what really matters in life, the year and a half she didn't speak to her mother over the choice to marry outside her culture, and how she taught her 9 year old son alchemy through the imagination. We talk about softness as a cellular, structural quality rather than a soft option, and why every human being is capable of choosing change in favour of their own joy.  LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between London and Indianapolis. We acknowledge the colonial histories of the UK, and the Miami and Potawatomi peoples upon whose ancestral lands Indianapolis now stands.  Grab your free gift from Journal to JOY: mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift  IN THIS EPISODE WE EXPLORE:Why the safe path was never really saferSoftness as an ingredient of opennessThe moment childbirth showed Sohyoung what life is really all aboutChoosing your path against your parents' expectationsTeaching children to imagine something other than fearBringing consciousness and joy into corporate culture  TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Welcome01:37 A recent joy: helping her son imagine sleep instead of catastrophe06:14 Journeying softness and vulnerability after stepping off an old identity12:14 Why the safe path was never guaranteed24:16 What was your truth, or is your truth?27:02 Marrying outside her culture and not speaking to her mother for a year and a half28:17 The moment of childbirth that changed her understanding of the world35:18 Bringing consciousness, creativity and joy into corporate culture37:41 Every human is capable of choosing change in favour of their joy  ABOUT SOHYOUNG:Sohyoung Ward is the founder of True Level Leaders, coaching and training leaders and high performance teams to create what they love and serve the world with their vision and heart. She is also an artist, writer, and mother of two. Her own background spans physics and economics, portfolio analysis and corporate restructuring law, alongside her training as a holistic health counsellor and yoga teacher.  RESOURCES MENTIONED:True Level Leaders: truelevelleaders.com CONNECT WITH SOHYOUNG:Website: truelevelleaders.comEmail: sohyoung.choo@gmail.com CONNECT WITH ELLA MESMA:Website: goddxxpath.comFree Gift: goddxxpath.com/joyhourgift LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzrYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8M ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:Music by LamRock. Thank you to Sohyoung and to you for listening.

  8. Jun 14

    Episode 81: Even AI is Nature with Canay Atalay

    LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:Recorded between Ibiza and London. We acknowledge the colonial histories of Spain and the UK, and honour the diverse communities whose lands and labour built these cities. ABOUT THIS EPISODE:Canay Atalay is a regenerative innovation architect who works at the intersection of business, AI, and planetary regeneration... and in this conversation, she invites us to question one of the assumptions we most take for granted: that technology and nature are separate things. They are not. We are not.We talk about human agency in an age of AI, why your body is still the most sophisticated technology available to you, and how the quality of what you are feeling shapes everything you create. This is one of those conversations that asks you to sit with a tree, look honestly in the mirror, and take responsibility for the energy you bring into everything you touch.🎁 FREE GIFT FOR LISTENERSGrab your free gift from Journal to JOY: mayagandaia.com/joyhourgift IN THIS EPISODE WE EXPLORE:Why AI is not separate from nature... and neither are youHow your emotions shape the reality you are co-creatingWhat "recoding" means in business and personal transformationStrength training, embodiment, and women in leadershipWhy asking the tree in your garden might give you better answers than you expectTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Welcome02:04 The gym, accumulated stress, and a moment of recognition: this is the life I was dreaming of06:15 What her daughters reveal about ego and what is truly meaningful09:44 How the world is a mirror of what we have not yet integrated within ourselves15:50 Finding discernment with AI: what is good for me, and what is good for us?19:33 Thoughts are using humans, not the other way around25:19 Forgetfulness and remembrance... the game of being human29:21 Have you asked the tree in your garden?39:27 Canay's invitation: drink water, bless it, move it, be grateful for it ABOUT CANAY:Canay Atalay is a regenerative innovation architect and founder of the RX Innovation Institute and The Heroines, curator of Heart Masters Ibiza, and host of Regenerative Innovation with Canay at Harvard Business Review. She advises executives and boards on cultural transformation, intelligent systems design, and token economics across organisations and ecosystems. RESOURCES MENTIONED:RX Innovation InstituteThe Heroines: theheroines.coHeart Masters IbizaCONNECT WITH CANAY:Instagram: @canay.atalayLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/canayEmail: canay@theheroines.coCONNECT WITH ELLA MESMA:Website: mayagandaia.comFree Gift: mayagandaia.com/joyhourgiftLISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joy-hour/id1849505845Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1e2AslgK9q1hnEimdgQHzrYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ybUzyvIV4PVoZ3S9ZK1pEGKuY7XcY8MACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:Music by LamRock. Thank you to Canay and to you for listening.

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Welcome to The JOY Hour with Ella Mesma. Twice a month, I sit down with visionaries, artists, and leaders who are shifting away from hustle conditioning to create from a deeper, more intuitive space: exploring the messy, beautiful journey of living and leading on their own terms. Grab a tea, get cosy, and join us for The JOY Hour