Tongue First

Siren and Wendy

Two sapphic voices. One mic. And the kind of questions people don’t always say out loud. Welcome to Tongue First — a queer, sapphic podcast where curiosity gets a little closer… and conversations go a little deeper. Hosted by Siren — trans woman, poet, and emotional-support bottom — and Wendy — cis lesbian baddie with confidence, chaos, and zero interest in sugarcoating anything — this is what happens when you put two very different energies in the same space… and unleash them. Season 1 is a shift. Less performance. More presence. Still playful, still a little unhinged — but now we mean it. Fully unscripted and always honest, these are real conversations about identity, relationships, sex, and the moments that hit harder than expected — with special guests joining every other episode to bring new perspectives, stories, and a little extra chaos into the mix. From messy connections and late realizations to desire, growth, and the “wait… what is this?” moments — nothing is off limits, and nothing is too real. Some episodes feel like a deep late-night conversation. Others spiral into chaos — most live somewhere in between. Whether you’re here to laugh, reflect, feel seen, or just hear someone finally say the thing you’ve been thinking… You’re in the right place. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer… and don’t forget to lick responsibly.

  1. Aug 11

    Circling the Block, Consensual Non-Consent, and New Relationship Energy with Jo Del Carmen

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome back Jo Del Carmen — our very first return guest, and currently the most listened to episode in the show's history. Jo circled the block on their own words to be here, and it turns out we all had more to say. This episode opens with a big one: Wendy is back together with her ex-fiancée Jessica, and she walks through exactly what accountability, boundaries, and giving someone grace after repeated heartbreak actually looks like in real time — including a notebook exercise that might be the most direct thing we've ever put on this podcast. Jo brings their own update — the end of a poly situationship, a recent autism diagnosis, and an honest, detailed conversation about new relationship energy, consensual non-consent, and what it actually means to find a valve release. Siren opens up about the current dynamic between her, Bo, and Squeezy, and what it's like to navigate a new relationship feeling easier than a longer one — and why that isn't necessarily a red flag. They also dig into Jo's four B's — breakups, buddies, and the ongoing question of whether queer women and straight men can really just be friends — plus neurospicy brains, bedroom compatibility, boob chat boundaries, and a never-before-heard excerpt from Jo's upcoming book that had all three of us needing a minute. If you've ever circled back to someone you swore you were done with, needed language for a relationship dynamic you couldn't quite name, or just wanted two hours of your favorite people being brutally honest with each other — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Circling the Block, Consensual Non-Consent, and New Relationship Energy with Jo Del Carmen

  2. Aug 3

    Prime Rib, Choosing Peace, and Setting Boundaries with Geli Jimenez

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome Geli Jimenez — Wendy's close friend, former supervisor, and someone who has lived through more than most people could carry, only to come out the other side kind, grounded, and genuinely at peace. Geli grew up Hispanic and deeply Catholic, realized she was gay watching Practical Magic as a kid, and spent years trying so hard to be straight that she dated boys, got pregnant young, and lost that pregnancy to violence before she ever let herself have a first kiss with a woman. When she finally came out to her mom — in the frozen food aisle, on purpose, so she couldn't get hit — the response was a punch in the arm and, later that night, an ultimatum that ended with Geli walking out the door for good. Together, Siren, Wendy, and Geli talk about estrangement and the seven years of peace that followed setting a boundary with her mother, losing God and finding a version of faith that actually holds her, getting an autism diagnosis in her thirties, and meeting the wife who finally made her believe in staying. They also get into breaking cycles as a parent, what it means to choose who you become in spite of the people who hurt you, and why letting go of what life was supposed to look like is usually the moment real life begins. Also: hard drugs at fourteen, an accidental drug tutorial, Wendy and Geli's origin story as work friends turned family, and a prime rib dinner that was, by Geli's own admission, a little ungay of her. If you've ever had to choose peace over a parent, find yourself outside of who you were raised to be, or needed proof that the other side of hard things can be this good — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Prime Rib, Choosing Peace, and Setting Boundaries with Geli Jimenez

  3. Jul 28

    AOL Searches, Shadow Work, and Emotional Support Chopsticks with Daisy Barton

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome Daisy Barton — trans woman, TikTok creator, full time Uber driver, and one of the most quietly resilient people this show has had the privilege of talking to. Daisy knew she was a girl since she was five years old, growing up in a conservative Christian household where she was told God made her a boy and that was the end of the discussion. She spent decades in the closet — purging her clothes over and over, searching AOL chat rooms in the 90s just to know she wasn't alone, and eventually landing in an inpatient facility as a teenager. At 38, she posted on Facebook that she was a trans woman, hit send, and went to sleep. She's been building her life — and herself — in real time ever since. Together, Siren, Wendy, and Daisy talk about CPTSD, the shadow work and self-soothing that got her through it, a therapist who told her to "just be a man and stop crying," finding community and getting the name Daisy from a Discord server, and what it actually took to go from a private, homebound person to someone hundreds of people watch live every day. They also get into the emotional labor of being visible online, the trolls versus the people who genuinely see her, dating after transition — including one spectacularly bad ghosting story — and why her chopsticks have their very own pocket in a hand embroidered scarf. If you've ever had to purge parts of yourself just to survive, needed proof that healing isn't linear, or just wanted to watch someone build a full and joyful life on the other side of hard things — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Find Daisy on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube under Lackadaisylady (concert recordings appear as DaisyBee on YouTube). Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    AOL Searches, Shadow Work, and Emotional Support Chopsticks with Daisy Barton

  4. Jul 20

    Boxed Wine, Debriefs, and the Listener Mailbag

    This week on Tongue First, it's just Siren and Wendy — boxed wine, sparkling water, chewed ice, and no guest. After ten episodes of incredible guests, this one is a deep exhale. They pour a drink and debrief the last couple of weeks — the drama, the snakes in the grass, what emotional manipulation actually looks like, and why accountability is the whole ballgame. They say what needs to be said, and then they leave it exactly where it belongs: outside the club. From there it gets cozy. Tattoo stories — including Wendy's first tattoo at thirteen from a homemade gun, the cover-up that reclaimed it, and the tattoo artist dream she chased at forty-two before letting it go. The great Tongue First tattoo debate: Wendy's rainbow fruit fly versus Siren's dainty tongue-and-microphone. A public service announcement about tattoo parties. And Buffy the Vampire Slayer finally getting gay. Then the mailbag opens. Siren and Wendy read your comments and reviews from Apple Podcasts and Spotify — the funny ones, the sweet ones, and a few that got genuinely heavy. They talk about what it means to be called a soft place to land, confirm the masc lesbian uniform is real and documented, and remind a few of you that you are deeply, deeply loved. Also: Songbird's wine recipe, ice chewing ASMR, redheads as a category, birthday beach cake plans, and a very close call with the dingle hopper streak. If you've ever needed to protect your peace, or just wanted to sit with two friends and a glass of wine while they read nice things out loud — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Boxed Wine, Debriefs, and the Listener Mailbag

  5. Jul 13

    Gay Pancakes, Husbands, and Thirty Nine Raccoons with Adam & Topher

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome Adam and Topher — husbands, TikTok creators, and the two sweet little baby angels behind some of the most joyful corners of the internet, including a coffee brand with attitude and a nightly raccoon dinner party that has to be seen to be believed. Adam spent sixteen years in ministry as a worship pastor before a karaoke bar, a Family Force Five t-shirt, and a phone number he kept for weeks without ever using changed everything. Topher came out twice — once to a father who pushed him right back into the closet, and again two years later to a mom whose response was simply, "What did you want, a parade?" Their stories are different, but they landed in the same place: a marriage, a home, and a backyard full of trash pandas. Together, Siren, Wendy, Adam, and Topher talk about coming out, faith and what happens to it when the people who taught it to you can't accept you, losing your entire friend group overnight, what the scriptures actually said before translation got involved, being nonbinary and letting people use whatever pronouns come out, and why Topher insists on the word husband. A heads up: partway through the episode, Adam shares a deeply personal story about a lie that was spread about him after coming out — and what it almost cost him. It's one of the heaviest and most important stories the show has held, and he tells it with remarkable grace. Also: Siren's and Wendy's custom coffee blends, Blonde and Perky, Basic Bitch, a pecan pie that started everything, Rhonda and the raccoon committee, a bird dating simulator, and the gay pancakes you've been waiting for. If you've ever had to come out more than once, lost your community for being yourself, or just needed proof that the story can end with joy — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Find Adam on TikTok at @adamgoodcoffee and Topher at @timewithtopher. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Gay Pancakes, Husbands, and Thirty Nine Raccoons with Adam & Topher

  6. Jul 6

    Murder Musicals, Iced Vanilla Berry, and Anxious Attachment with Miss Magali

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome Miss Magali — queer, mixed, musical theater performer, TikTok yapper, and full time gaming streamer who went live to a community of seven people on March 5th and never looked back. Magali came into Siren's life during one of the hardest moments of her TikTok journey — a malicious account ban during Pride month that wiped out everything overnight. She showed up quietly, stayed, and became one of those people you don't realize changed your trajectory until they tell you the story back. Together, Siren, Wendy, and Magali talk about what it means to be a soft place to land on the internet, the pressure of manufactured creator rules and how to break them, turning 30 after spending your twenties homeless, caring for a grandmother with dementia, and working three jobs at 22 just to stay in the theater. They get into love languages, desire and how it shape shifts, anxious attachment and the book that named it, and what it actually feels like to want someone to just stay. Wendy tells a story she hasn't told on the podcast before. It involves a cruise, a proposal on a plane, a signed lease, and someone who came back after two years and undid a lot of healing. It's heavy. It's honest. And Magali holds the room through every second of it. Also: Heathers the musical and its impressive body count, Wendy's polycule dream taking a hit, Mai Tai the emotional support cat, the iced vanilla berry Red Bull that Wendy sent to Magali just because, and desire as a goddess who steps into whatever path she wants when she's needed most. If you've ever felt like showing up online cost you something — or like loving someone right wasn't enough to make them stay — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Find Miss Magali on TikTok at @missmagali25 and on Twitch at twitch.tv/missmagaliplaysgames. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Murder Musicals, Iced Vanilla Berry, and Anxious Attachment with Miss Magali

  7. Jun 29

    Put Your Whole Mouth On It - Rebroadcast

    Before season one, before the guests, before the show notes and the Patreon and the weekly production schedule — there was this. This week Tongue First is taking a breath and going back to where it all started. Put Your Whole Mouth On It is the very first episode Siren and Wendy ever recorded, live on TikTok, with absolutely no idea what they were doing and all the chaotic energy that would eventually become this show. In this debut episode they introduce themselves for the first time — a 37 year old queer trans woman who spent twenty years in the church and a seasoned 44 year old cis lesbian who birthed a dachshund out of her cooter cat — talk about how they found each other on TikTok, their matching birthdays, their matching tattoos, and what happens when two Geminis with filthy minds decide to start a podcast together. They also get into trans awakenings, lesbian stereotypes, love, loss, lube, cheating, religion, the word moist, blue raspberry, and whether they should call it Tongue First or Tongues Out. Spoiler: they figured it out. New episodes are back next Monday with Episode 9 and a guest that Wendy has an absolutely unhinged crush on. In the meantime — welcome back to the beginning. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

  8. Jun 22

    Gay God, Childhood Trauma, and Warm Jello with Matthew Lush

    This week on Tongue First, Siren and Wendy welcome Matthew Lush — aka Gay God — one of the original LGBTQ+ internet personalities, a trailblazer who was turning webcams on in his bedroom and figuring it out in real time before anyone had a name for what he was doing. Matthew has been a presence on the internet for twenty two years. Before TikTok lives, before creator houses, before sponsorship managers and media training, Matthew was on MySpace posting pictures of himself and his boyfriend and accidentally becoming one of the first openly gay voices on the internet. It cost him friendships, his relationship with his parents, and years of death threats from strangers who couldn't stand to see him exist. He kept going anyway. Together, Siren, Wendy, and Matthew talk about what it actually cost to be visible online before queer visibility was celebrated, coming out at fourteen and being one of the first to do it on camera, the emotional weight of being a creator people turn to when they have nowhere else to go, what it means to forgive a parent who wasn't there when you needed them most, and how trauma has a funny way of turning into purpose. They also get into defining queerness, rainbow aesthetics and pride fatigue, Matthew being canonically a lesbian, and a passionate debate about whether pineapple belongs on mashed potatoes that ends exactly the way you'd expect. And somewhere in the middle of all of it, warm jello becomes a metaphor for something that we will not be explaining here. If you've ever felt like being yourself on the internet cost you something real — or if you just need to hear that keeping going is always worth it — this one is for you. Support the chaos and get access to bonus content, behind the scenes moments, and the Tongue First After Hours community over on Patreon. The link is in the show notes. Find Matthew Lush at MatthewLush.com and on TikTok at @MatthewLush. Follow the chaos on TikTok: @Sirenegade_440 @Wendy6181981 New episodes every Monday. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer, and don't forget to lick responsibly.

    Gay God, Childhood Trauma, and Warm Jello with Matthew Lush
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Two sapphic voices. One mic. And the kind of questions people don’t always say out loud. Welcome to Tongue First — a queer, sapphic podcast where curiosity gets a little closer… and conversations go a little deeper. Hosted by Siren — trans woman, poet, and emotional-support bottom — and Wendy — cis lesbian baddie with confidence, chaos, and zero interest in sugarcoating anything — this is what happens when you put two very different energies in the same space… and unleash them. Season 1 is a shift. Less performance. More presence. Still playful, still a little unhinged — but now we mean it. Fully unscripted and always honest, these are real conversations about identity, relationships, sex, and the moments that hit harder than expected — with special guests joining every other episode to bring new perspectives, stories, and a little extra chaos into the mix. From messy connections and late realizations to desire, growth, and the “wait… what is this?” moments — nothing is off limits, and nothing is too real. Some episodes feel like a deep late-night conversation. Others spiral into chaos — most live somewhere in between. Whether you’re here to laugh, reflect, feel seen, or just hear someone finally say the thing you’ve been thinking… You’re in the right place. Until next time — stay curious, stay queer… and don’t forget to lick responsibly.

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  • Creator
    Siren and Wendy
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    20
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Siren and Wendy
  • Show Website
    Tongue First