Supercompanies with Greg Shove

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Every two weeks, Supercompanies brings you unfiltered conversations with the founders and CEOs actually building AI-native companies right now, no theory, no hype, just what's working and what's failing inside real organizations. Hosted by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a tech executive since before the Y2K scare, having founded seven companies including his time at AOL. Guests have included Zapier's Wade Foster, Fanvue's Joel Morris, and Logitech's Eric Porres. Video versions of every episode, along with clips and highlights, are available on YouTube at @SupercompaniesPod.

  1. 4d ago

    100x Engineering Productivity with Garima Kapoor (MinIO)

    Garima Kapoor, co-founder and co-CEO of MinIO, joins Greg Shove to explain how a 200-person, decade-old infrastructure company mandated AI use across every function — and what it’s learned about measuring the return. MinIO builds the object storage and memory layer that enterprise AI runs on, founded on the bet that most enterprise data would live outside the public cloud. The company raised $100 million in a 2022 round it has never had to touch, is cash-flow positive, and has grown from 40 to over 200 people, with most of that hiring in go-to-market roles over the last two years. In this episode, Garima and Greg discuss: Why MinIO mandated AI use company-wide — “either you use AI, or this isn’t the place for you” — and what happened when they rolled it outThe claim that some engineers are 100x more productive with AI, and why that number isn’t uniform across the teamCutting time-to-market for complex backend infrastructure from roughly 12 months to about one monthManaging an inference spend in the millions of dollars annually, and why MinIO is already holding executives accountable for token budgets, not just headcount budgetsWhy she thinks there’s no single “primary” AI model — using Claude and Codex for different workloads depending on the taskBuilding internal AI tools via MCP servers to connect sales, calendar, and CRM data for faster onboarding and managementHiring and interviewing in an AI-saturated world — screening for curiosity and clarity of thinking over raw AI fluencyRunning MinIO as co-CEO, with a spouse among her co-founding team, and how she thinks about AI’s role in her own kids’ education If you’re an executive trying to figure out how to measure AI’s return on investment — not just adopt the tools, but hold teams and budgets accountable to them — this conversation is a real-world look at how one profitable, fast-scaling company is doing it.

    100x Engineering Productivity with Garima Kapoor (MinIO)
  2. Oct 7

    From Corporate Housing to a $2.1B Travel Company With Elia Wallen, Founder of Engine

    Elia Wallen, founder and CEO of Engine, joins Greg Shove to explain how a 1,000-person, 11-year-old corporate travel company is retrofitting itself for AI in public — and posting results most AI-native startups would envy. Elia dropped out of college after one semester, built a corporate housing company into the third-largest in the country, then spun off an internal booking tool into Engine — now valued at $2.1 billion with 33,000 customers, over a million travelers, and profitable. Unlike many AI transformation stories, Engine isn't a startup unburdened by legacy systems — it's an incumbent with real headcount and process debt, actively rebuilding itself. In this episode, Elia and Greg discuss: How Engine's engineering teams shrank from 7 to 3 people while shipping 5–10x fasterWhy over half of customer support cases now resolve with no human involvedRunning "applied AI teams" embedded across marketing, sales, and financeWhy Elia believes the future favors fewer management layers and more deep specialistsHiring for resilience and testing every candidate — including sales reps — on AI fluencyAcquiring a 30-year-old travel management company instead of banking AI-driven marginManaging inference spend at the corporate level before it becomes unmanageableWhat a thousand-person company with 420 open jobs says about where AI transformation actually lands If you're leading an incumbent business trying to figure out how much to change, how fast, and who to hire for it, this conversation is a real-time look at what that retrofit actually looks like.

    From Corporate Housing to a $2.1B Travel Company With Elia Wallen, Founder of Engine
  3. Sep 23

    Why Most AI Agents Are Quietly Bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib (Sapiom)

    Most AI agents are quietly bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib explains why giving them real spending power, not just API keys, is the missing piece of the AI economy. Ilan Zerbib, founder and CEO of Sapiom, joins Greg Shove to explain why AI agents need their own payment infrastructure — and why most agentic products today are quietly bankrupt. Ilan built his first company, Earny, running billions of automated bots to recover consumer refunds — a preview of the infrastructure problems agents face today. After Earny's acquisition and five years leading payments engineering at Shopify (Shop Pay, $100B+ in GPV), he founded Sapiom to solve a core problem: the internet's payment and API infrastructure was built to block automation, not enable it. In this conversation, Ilan and Greg cover: Why agents need spending power, not just API keys, to complete real-world tasksThe difference between the consumer agent economy and the much larger machine-to-machine economy (agents paying agents for APIs and services)How Sapiom's governance layer lets businesses give agents autonomy within controlled spending limitsWhy most AI agents today are "bankrupt" — and how cost, model routing, and failure rates determine marginBuilding as a solo founder: raising $51M across three rounds in 12 months, and running a 30-person team without traditional engineering hierarchyWhy full company automation (80-90%) doesn't mean smaller teams — it means far more ambitious scopeWhat it takes to build category-defining, super companies in the AI era If you're building AI agents, thinking about agentic infrastructure, or trying to figure out how machines will transact in the emerging AI economy, this episode is a blueprint from someone building the rails.

    Why Most AI Agents Are Quietly Bankrupt — Ilan Zerbib (Sapiom)

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Every two weeks, Supercompanies brings you unfiltered conversations with the founders and CEOs actually building AI-native companies right now, no theory, no hype, just what's working and what's failing inside real organizations. Hosted by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a tech executive since before the Y2K scare, having founded seven companies including his time at AOL. Guests have included Zapier's Wade Foster, Fanvue's Joel Morris, and Logitech's Eric Porres. Video versions of every episode, along with clips and highlights, are available on YouTube at @SupercompaniesPod.

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