Margs & Manuscripts

Cait & Jenna

The book world is bigger than any one corner of it. Margs & Manuscripts brings it all together — writers, authors, agents, editors, bookstore owners, and readers — for real, unfiltered conversation about writing, publishing, and the reading life. Hosted by Cait and Jenna, two writer friends who pour a drink and let the conversation flow.

  1. 4d ago ·  Bonus

    In the Lime Light with Lizzete S. Tupas

    This week on the Lime Light, debut author Lizzete S. Tupas joins Jenna and Cait to talk about her novel, Always on a Tuesday. Loren Thomas has built a life on competence. At work she is the one everyone trusts, and at home she is the one everyone depends on. Then Tuesdays start cracking it all open. First comes an unexplained mistake, then a phone call she can't forget, then quiet fractures that refuse to stay hidden. It is a psychologically rich literary novel about identity, resilience, and the hidden cost of competence. We get into: the therapy homework assignment that started it allwhy Lizzete turned her story into fiction instead of a memoirfounding her own imprint to publish voices that deserve to be heardthe beta reader intervention that changed her titlethe post-it cover she designed herselfIn This Episode (00:19) The homework assignment from her therapist, and why she chose fiction over memoir(03:25) Jenna on becoming a new mom and not having it all together for the first time(04:24) Going from writing the story to publishing it, and founding Studio LT Press to publish stories that deserve to be heard(07:30) How learning every step of publishing made her a stronger writer (except marketing)(08:39) The ultimate homework assignment, and what her therapist will say when Lizzete hands her the book(09:38) The beta reader intervention, and finding a new title over sushi with her nephew(11:42) Rewriting the first three chapters, and the DIY cover made from a post-it and a Notes app scribble(14:31) Stumbling into your best ideas and trusting your instincts as an indie author(16:26) Why she is celebrating with a private dinner instead of a big launch party(18:25) Wrapping upGet the book Always on a Tuesday is out now from Studio LT Press in hardcover, paperback, ebook, and a special Lotus Edition. Book clubs, Lizzete has a free discussion guide ready for you. Buy: https://www.amazon.com/Always-Tuesday-Lizzete-S-Tupas-ebook/dp/B0HC53SD9PGoodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/256109987-always-on-a-tuesdayBook Club Guide: https://www.lizzetetupas.com/_files/ugd/5b61a0_700531798ed948a18d3b9c4b271b58a4.pdfConnect with Lizzete Website: https://www.lizzetetupas.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lizzetetupasTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizzetetupasStudio LT Press: https://www.studioltpress.comSupport the show

    In the Lime Light with Lizzete S. Tupas
  2. 6d ago

    Your Shelved Book Isn't Dead, It's in a Coma with Once, Again, Always Author Amanda Gayle

    Ten finished manuscripts. One titanium ankle. One perfectly timed book deal. This week, Amanda Gayle joins us to talk about her debut romance, Once, Again, Always (Avon/HarperCollins), and the long, honest road that got her there. She shares what it was like to quit her job to write, query, land an agent, and go on submission twice. She also explains why a shelved manuscript isn't dead, just waiting for the market to catch up. Plus, we hear about the backyard fire pit conversation that sparked the story, the ending she never outlined, and her trip to Germany for her international launch. In this episode, we talk about: Why getting published comes down to timing as much as talentBuilding a back catalog so you're ready when your moment comesWhat submission looks like when it works, and when it doesn'tPromoting one book while editing the nextChoosing traditional publishing and knowing your strengthsKeeping the faith when it feels like your turn will never comeAbout Once, Again, Always Molly Graham wakes up in the hospital with no memory of the last six years. Then she finds out she's married to Aster Bishop, her infuriating boarding school rival. Amanda calls it a heartbreaking but hopeful second-chance romance about who we are when we're missing our own context. It's out October 6 from Avon. Join the Margs & Manuscripts Book Drop Want more indie books in your life? For $10 a month, Book Drop members get at least three indie ebooks every month, plus discount codes for physical copies. Every time an indie author's Limelight episode comes out, we pay that author $2 for every active member. The podcast and the Substack stay free. Book Drop is how we put real money behind indie authors. Join here: https://margsandmanuscritspod.substack.com/p/its-here-the-margs-and-manuscripts Links Margs & Manuscripts on Substack: https://margsandmanuscritspod.substack.com/Amanda Gayle on instagramPick up Once, Again, Always Books featured on this podcast are sometimes provided free by publishers or authors. Support the show

    Your Shelved Book Isn't Dead, It's in a Coma with Once, Again, Always Author Amanda Gayle
  3. Oct 1 ·  Bonus

    In the Lime Light with Allison Bettes

    Spicy romance meets CSI. Allison Bettes joins Jenna and Cait to celebrate the release of Rogue Wave, book three in her Cupid Meets Crime Scene series. A sunshiny marine biologist, a grumpy sheriff next door who writes her tickets for everything, and a beach that washes up a lot more than sand dollars. We talk about writing women in STEM whose expertise actually cracks the case, the very random research behind axolotls and escape-artist octopuses, and why Allison's animals are never just pets (one is basically a matchmaker). Plus her first special editions, a bedazzling habit measured in thousands of beads, the shift from shirtless-guy covers to bright symbolic ones, and how a side character named after a street team member ended up launching a whole new series. In this episode: Rogue Wave and the Cupid Meets Crime Scene series (and why you can start with any book)Women in STEM solving the crime, inspired by Allison's day job as a scientistResearch rabbit holes: axolotls, octopuses, and a probable FBI watch listSpecial editions with sprayed edges, a town map, and science jokes at the top of every chapterThe 27-hour bedazzled event copy that is not for salePartnering with indie bookstore Shelf Love for pre-orders and book boxesThe cover glow-up with designer Kay JaspersonWhat's next: Gail's book in January and a Vivi and Dougie spin-off seriesGet Rogue Wave (out October 1) Special editions: Allison's Website (free shipping) Special editions and book boxes: Shelf Love Pre-orders placed by Saturday, October 3 get personalized. Connect with Allison: @authorallisonbettes Connect with M&M: @margsandmanuscripts Support the show

    In the Lime Light with Allison Bettes
  4. Sep 29

    Found Family and Found Readers with Dakoda Mazzii

    We hit almost 500 downloads in a single week, and we're marking the milestone with an episode that turned into a full-circle moment for our own indie publishing journeys. Dakoda Mazzii, author of the dark fantasy trilogy The Fate of Astoran, joins us to talk about querying, signing with a literary agent, and ultimately walking away to self-publish on her own terms. Since then she's released Chasm of Dreams and Summoner of Chaos seven months apart, sold thousands of copies, and built a devoted readership from scratch. We get into how she grew her fanbase as an indie author (hint: human-made artwork, newsletters, and a lot of giving books away), why she refuses to write to market, and why she's giving herself zero deadline for book three. Plus some honest talk about day jobs, health insurance, and the reality of chasing a creative dream without betting your whole life on it. In this episode: Why Dakoda left the trad pipeline after a year of waiting and uncertaintyReleasing two epic fantasy books in seven months (and why book three gets all the time it needs)Investing in human artists over AI art to draw readers inNewsletters, giveaways, and the self-sacrificial side of indie marketingWhy "writing to market" isn't the answerEvery author has their own journey, and your craft grows with every bookA reminder for the online author community: we're all on the same teamAbout Chasm of Dreams: A character-driven, fast-paced, Lord of the Rings-coded fantasy about a dream walker and her found family taking on the fallen angel who has conquered their world. Expect prophecy, revolution, a medium-burn romance with zero brooding animosity, and a story about honor, compassion, and humanity reclaiming its footing. Chapters: 00:00 Almost 500 downloads in one week 02:14 Meet Dakoda and Chasm of Dreams 05:16 The Fate of Astoran series 07:49 Querying, landing an agent, and walking away 13:28 Choosing indie and letting book three breathe 17:11 How she built her readership 23:07 Every author has their own journey 28:13 Leaving the query trenches and ignoring the market 31:44 Day jobs, health insurance, and real talk about risk 33:18 Be nice, we're on the same team Find Dakoda: Instagram: @dakodamazziiauthor Find us: Instagram: @margsandmanuscripts Support the show

    Found Family and Found Readers with Dakoda Mazzii
  5. Sep 24 ·  Bonus

    In the Lime Light with Elizabeth Gillman

    This week on the Limelight, debut author Elizabeth Gillman joins Jenna and Cait to talk about her novel, Maybe, Maybe Not. Annie has learned to live well with her OCD, but travel has always been off the table, and she has never left her little Gulf Coast community. When her boss offers to sell her the boutique she has worked in since she was a teenager, Annie finally decides to face travel with her fearless best friend Kat by her side. Then Kat dies unexpectedly, leaving behind a list of offbeat places to scatter her ashes and a surly little brother to help get it done. It is funny, it is tender, and it is full of road trip energy. We get into why OCD is not the antagonist of this story, the deeply personal reason Elizabeth wrote it, the octopus hiding on her gorgeous cover, and her ten-year road to publication. Her OCD is an octopus. Her best friend's last wishes are a road trip. If you love Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine and The Road to Tender Hearts, this one is for you. In this episode: (00:00) How long Elizabeth has been working on this book, and meeting Cait at the Alexandria retreat(00:48) ARC reader reception and trying (and failing) not to read reviews(02:09) The pitch, the premise, and the comp titles(04:41) Why OCD is not the antagonist(05:59) The heart of the story: writing hope for her daughter and for the parents who love kids with OCD(10:19) The cover journey, letting the designer take the wheel, and the octopus you can't unsee(14:37) Elizabeth's ten-year publishing journey, from a 134,000-word first draft to finding her first critique partner(21:25) Writing this one for her daughter, setting a querying deadline, and choosing to go indie(23:40) Building a publishing team, from dev editor to audiobook narrator(25:05) Wrapping upIf you liked these, you'll like Maybe, Maybe Not: The Road to Tender Hearts by Annie HartnettJane and Dan at the End of the World by Colleen OakleyEleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine by Gail HoneymanTurtles All the Way Down by John GreenAfter Annie by Anna QuindlenGet the book:  Maybe, Maybe Not comes out September 26 from 20 Knots Press and is available for preorder now. Keep an eye out for two more books from Elizabeth coming soon. Preorder: https://books2read.com/u/bPqqlRWebsite: https://elizabethgillman.squarespace.com/Find Elizabeth: Website: https://elizabethgillman.squarespace.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elizabethgillmanwritesSupport the show

    In the Lime Light with Elizabeth Gillman
  6. Sep 22

    The Hot Ghost Boyfriend Rules with Katie Jung

    Katie Jung joins us to talk about her debut romance, You're the One That I Haunt, and the surprisingly hard rules of writing a love interest who can't be touched. We dig into how Trip became a ghost in the first place, the logic she had to build so the "rules" of a paranormal romance actually hold up (turns out you don't need to explain everything, sometimes a ghost is just an octopus), and why every bit of magic in a story needs to earn its place in the plot. Katie also walks us through her whirlwind path to publication, from a mentorship program to an agent to a two book deal in under a year, and gives us the details on her launch week, including a haunted wine bar and a joint event with fellow author Mackenzie Reed. In this episode: How Trip became a ghost, and why Katie almost changed her mind more than onceBuilding consistent rules for a paranormal romance without overexplaining the magic (the "static electricity, not a chill" fix)Why every magical element needs to serve the character arc, not just solve a plot problemJenna's trick of personifying a magic system as its own character to find its "why"The Smooch Pit mentorship program, her mentor Audrey Goldberg Rueff, and the agent showcase that led to her offerHer timeline from agent signing in March to book deal in June to publication in September, all inside one yearWhat's next: book two is a new contemporary romance with a magical element, same vibe, and yes, this time they can touchLaunch week plans, including her haunted-wine-bar release party and a joint event with Mackenzie ReedAbout Katie Jung Katie Jung writes romance about the messy parts of being human and what it means to build your own happy ending. You're the One That I Haunt is her debut novel, publishing September 22, 2026 from Penguin Random House. She lives in upstate New York with her husband and three kids, and she's already at work on book two. Where to find Katie: You're the One That I Haunt — launch event in Syracuse, NYJoint event with Mackenzie Reed (I Hope This Email Finds You in Hell) at The Ripped Bodice, Sept 24Instagram: @katiejungwrites Book Break: Maybe, Maybe Not by Elizabeth Gillman It's taken decades, but Annie Reeves has learned to coexist with her OCD. Travel's still out of the question, but her moss-draped historic Florida town holds everyone she loves, including her fearless best friend Kat and the boutique she's managed for years. When Kat dies unexpectedly, Annie learns Kat wanted her ashes scattered far and wide, with Kat's wayward brother Evans by her side. To honor that wish, Annie has to face everything that triggers her and decide whether to let her heart lead the way. Available 9.26.26 https://books2read.com/b/bPqqlR  Support the show

    The Hot Ghost Boyfriend Rules with Katie Jung
  7. Sep 15

    The Case for the 58-Year-Old Protagonist | with Kathy Sherbrooke

    What happens when the story you need to tell won't let you write it until you're ready? This week Jenna and Cait sit down with Kathy Sherbrooke (Katherine A. Sherbrooke), author of the new novel This Much Is True, out September 17th. It's a conversation about elapsed time, trusting your subconscious, and making the case for protagonists who have some real life experience behind them. Kathy first had the premise for This Much Is True more than a decade ago, then set it down twice to write two works of historical fiction before she finally found her way through it. We get into why that ten-year wait made the book better, what it means to write a woman reckoning at 58 with something that happened 40 years earlier, and her craft choice to tell one timeline in first person and the other in close third. We also talk about GrubStreet, the Boston writing center Kathy chaired for a decade, and why community is the thing that turns one novel into four. Plus the writing-as-channeling conversation, a little Big Magic, the trouble with the "women's fiction" label, and why this is a book Kathy hopes men will read too. In this episode: The value of elapsed time and letting an idea percolate instead of chasing a word countWriting an older protagonist with real history, and why that felt so refreshingFirst person vs. close third, and how point of view shapes distanceGrubStreet, writing groups, and the case for communityHistorical fiction rooted in real women, from Lucy Stone to a 1940s Hollywood runway modelGetting past the "women's fiction" shelf and inviting everyone into the conversationAbout the book: On her 58th birthday, veterinarian Veronica Harmon has a full life and a newly engaged daughter, until a face from her past reappears as her daughter's future father-in-law and forces a decades-old reckoning. This Much Is True is a story about survivorship, shame, and the choices that are ours to make. Content note: this episode and the book touch on sexual assault. Kathy's other books: Leaving Coy's Hill, Fill the Sky, and The Hidden Life of Aster Kelly. Book launch: Thursday, September 17th at 6:00 PM at GrubStreet in Boston's Seaport. Books featured on this podcast are sometimes provided free by publishers or authors. Support the show

    The Case for the 58-Year-Old Protagonist | with Kathy Sherbrooke
  8. Sep 11

    Devouring the Fourth Wing Cookbook with Author Chelsea Cole

    Episode Summary What happens when a sous vide nerd falls hard for a war college full of dragons? You get a cookbook. This week we sit down with Chelsea Cole, the mind behind A Guide to the Kitchen Quadrant, the (unofficial) Fourth Wing cookbook that is embossed, spot glossed, and frankly prettier than most things in our houses. We get into how you build a recipe out of four passing food mentions, why aesthetic is the entire point, and how she turns a book launch into a full night at Basgiath (axe throwing, a maker's market, and a marketplace throne included). Come hungry. Leave manifesting Rebecca Yarros's phone number. In This Episode How a cookbook actually gets made, from 30 recipe testers to chapter intros to dragon scale cover texturesWriting recipes when the source material only mentions food four timesPicking a whole flavor world (hello, Southern European Navarre) to make a fan cookbook feel cohesiveFan lore as an ingredient: Jesinia's margin notes, Segale's chardonnay, Broccoli the kittenTurning launches into immersive events that actually sell outThe working author-parent reality: 5am writing, meal planning a month at a time, and treating it like a business, not a hobbyWhy fan-first beats source-accurate every time (the rabbit stew is beef, sorry)About Chelsea Cole Chelsea Cole is a cookbook author, food blogger, and photographer who has been running her sous vide site A Duck's Oven for over a decade. She wrote Everyday Sous Vide and Sous Vide Meal Prep, and she teaches other writers how to make cookbooks through her course, The Cookbook Lab. A devoted Sarah J. Maas and Rebecca Yarros fan, she has turned her fandoms into a growing shelf of unofficial fan cookbooks, the newest being A Guide to the Kitchen Quadrant, a 60-recipe tribute to the Empyrean series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm) from Simon & Schuster. She lives outside Portland, Oregon, where she develops recipes before sunrise and raises two very small humans. Links Get A Guide to the Kitchen Quadrant: https://a.co/d/0byRi0KaChelsea on Instagram: @chel.seacoleA Duck's Oven: aducksoven.comThe makers from Chelsea's launch market (ceramics, embroidery, hand-forged daggers, and more):  @brujos_brewing @elviejonpdx @domestic_science @saltandstemware @stephiepredmore @faithhead99 @lindsaystranniganFollow Along Loved this one? Send it to the friend whose TBR is 90% romantasy. Then do us a favor and follow Margs & Manuscripts on Apple Podcasts and leave a review. It genuinely moves the needle on who finds the show. Website: margsandmanuscripts.comInstagram: @margsandmanuscriptsBooks featured on this podcast are sometimes provided free by publishers or authors. Keywords Fourth Wing cookbook, Chelsea Cole, A Guide to the Kitchen Quadrant, Rebecca Yarros, The Empyrean, Iron Flame, Onyx Storm, Basgiath, romantasy, fan cookbook, unofficial cookbook, cookbook author, cookbook writing, sous vide, book launch, self-publishing, indie author, bookish podcast, books and writing podcast, A Court of Thorns and Roses Support the show

    Devouring the Fourth Wing Cookbook with Author Chelsea Cole
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The book world is bigger than any one corner of it. Margs & Manuscripts brings it all together — writers, authors, agents, editors, bookstore owners, and readers — for real, unfiltered conversation about writing, publishing, and the reading life. Hosted by Cait and Jenna, two writer friends who pour a drink and let the conversation flow.

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