The Greg and Lee Podcast

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Tune in to The Greg and Lee Podcast for irrepressible chat, top-tier banter, and decades of broadcast chemistry brought to you by radio veterans Lee Gooch and Greg Hughes.

Episodes

  1. FEB 2

    The James White Archive: Power, Politics, and the Hotel Empire

    In 2002, James White was a man at the peak of his powers. As the head of the White Hotel Group, he commanded a commercial titan that employed 1,500 people and operated with a marketing budget—exceeding £500,000—that was almost unheard of for the time. Yet, behind the commercial success lay a storied and often turbulent career in the corridors of Leinster House. In this newly released archival recording, we step back over two decades to hear White in his own words: unfiltered, sharp, and remarkably candid about the friction that defined his life in both business and the Dáil. From Ballyshannon to the Dáil The conversation begins with White’s roots in the Ballyshannon grocery trade, but the narrative quickly shifts from commerce to conflict. In a revealing moment, White admits that his entry into Fine Gael wasn't born of deep-seated party ideology. Instead, it was a move of pure strategy—a way to spite a local politician and business rival. It was this instinct for competition that would characterize his entire public life. The Social Price of Power Perhaps the most striking part of the interview is White’s reflection on his "political low." He delves into the sting of being overlooked for a Ministry by Garret FitzGerald. He provides a rare, sobering look at the social climate of 20th-century Ireland, explaining how his broken marriage effectively barred him from the Cabinet table. Rather than retreating, White describes how that rejection became the fuel for his fire, redirecting his energy away from the Dáil and into the hotel empire that would eventually dominate the Donegal landscape. A Front-Row Seat to History Listeners will also hear White’s firsthand accounts of the cut-throat nature of Donegal politics. From the documented "bad blood" with Independent TD Thomas Gildea to his observations on a "fresh-faced" Enda Kenny taking the reins of Fine Gael, this recording is a time capsule of a transitional era in Irish leadership. Why It Matters Today This isn't just a business interview; it’s a bridge between the old guard of Irish politics and the modern tourism sector we see today. It captures a powerhouse figure at a moment of total confidence, offering an honest look at the ambition required to build a legacy in Ireland.

    50 min

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Tune in to The Greg and Lee Podcast for irrepressible chat, top-tier banter, and decades of broadcast chemistry brought to you by radio veterans Lee Gooch and Greg Hughes.