Modern Capital: The Private Markets Podcast

Marc Andrew
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Conversations with leaders building the infrastructure of private markets.

  1. Luke Flemmer: The Private Markets Inflection Point

    14h ago

    Luke Flemmer: The Private Markets Inflection Point

    Markets don't just happen. They're built. Public markets weren't a completely organic development. They were engineered over centuries, through boom and design and crisis. Every layer of trust investors now take for granted: the information rights, the settlement rails and the benchmarks, all came from people who did the work and built them. Luke Flemmer is one of those people.  He runs private assets at MSCI. His central point: private markets are at the very start of that work. Private used to be the spice. Now it's the main dish. Institutional portfolios hold between 20 and 50 percent in private assets. The allocations scaled fast, but the infrastructure underneath them did not. Most people picture private equity as a guy in a vest in Midtown. Most of it is actually pension money. It is individual savers and capital managed on behalf of regular people. Private capital is public capital. Bad information flow is intrinsically value destructive. It slows the market and shrinks returns for the people these institutions serve. In this episode of the Modern Capital Podcast, Luke and Marc cover: Asset-level benchmarks: why investors need to see exposure across funds, not just inside themDaily nowcasting indexes for PE and private credit - closing the gap between quarterly marks and real valueThe classification problem: the industry still can't agree on what to call things (and what that costs)Why information asymmetry in private markets is mostly underdevelopment, not design, and why closing that gap doesn't harm returnsHow AI lets firms leapfrog data infrastructure gaps and what separates the institutions that will author that shift from those that absorb it"You need some degree of transparency to drive more robust price formation. Once you start to drive price formation, you start to drive liquidity. Once you start to drive liquidity, you kick off this data flywheel." Markets get built by people who decide to build them.

    52 min
  2. Chris Sparenberg: The Raw Materials of Private Markets

    May 22

    Chris Sparenberg: The Raw Materials of Private Markets

    S&P Global built the information layer for public markets. Private markets is next. In 1860, Henry Varnum Poor published a manual on American railroads to inform investors. That business became Standard and Poor’s. The mission then was the same as it is now: build the information infrastructure for a market that is scaling faster than anyone can track. Private markets is the current assignment. The problem: a market that cannot measure itself. Performance data arrives in PDFs. Every manager reports differently. There is no agreed taxonomy, no standard for comparison.  More data is flowing through private markets than ever before... and almost none of it is comparable. Chris Sparenberg started his career at Cambridge Associates building private markets benchmarks from the ground up. He’s now Head of Private Markets Strategy and GTM at S&P Global Market Intelligence - and he’s spent his entire career in private markets data, technology and analytics. In this episode of the Modern Capital Podcast, Chris and Marc cover: The work S&P Global has done with Cambridge Associates and Mercer to create a new taxonomy and performance analytics for private marketsWhy more data is creating more complexity, not lessThe GP/LP disclosure challenge and how it's quietly resolvingThe role played by iLEVEL as a data clearinghouse, which allows GPs to report to their LPs on a one-to-many basisWhy we're in the second inning (and what separates the firms already building from the ones just arriving) "We want to be in the raw materials business. We want to collect data at the atomic level, enrich it, make it useful to our clients, but also really give them the tools to use it as they need to."

    35 min
  3. Samir Kaji: How Everyone Can Invest Like an Institution

    May 15

    Samir Kaji: How Everyone Can Invest Like an Institution

    The next decade belongs to people who can think like institutions. Individual investors sit at 1-2% alternatives allocations. Institutions are at 20%. That gap is closing fast because the infrastructure to bridge it is finally being built. Samir Kaji spent 22 years watching that infrastructure not exist. Thirteen years at Silicon Valley Bank. Nine at First Republic. Both now gone. What he saw inside them is what convinced him the problem was never access. It was everything underneath access: the portfolio construction tools, the liquidity mechanisms, and the frameworks institutions take for granted and individuals don't have. That's what Allocate is built to fix. Four and a half years in, over $4 billion has moved through its pipes, connecting wealth advisors to private funds across venture, private equity and private credit. 360 advisor firms. 4,000 individual investors.  In this episode of the Modern Capital Podcast, Samir and Marc cover: Why "semi-liquid" isn't the same as liquid, and what actually happens when individuals need outThe barbell: why large funds and emerging managers are playing completely different games, and how to build across bothWhat institutional portfolio construction actually looks like, and why accredited doesn't mean readyWhere private markets are heading and what has to be true for individuals to actually benefit "It's a way to generate alpha, but only if you get it right. So, let's build the system for that." Private markets are heading past $30 trillion. The wealth channel infrastructure to deliver them responsibly is being built right now. This is the conversation behind it.

    49 min
  4. Thomas McHugh: Building One Language for All of Finance

    May 8

    Thomas McHugh: Building One Language for All of Finance

    Finance speaks a thousand languages. Every market data provider formats corporate actions differently. Every custodian speaks a different dialect. Something as simple as receiving a dividend (ten shares of one company) might involve five custodians, six venues, three providers of corporate actions and ten investors across five different share classes, each with different tax obligations. "Something that sounds incredibly trivial turns into this web of really complicated translation problems."Thomas McHugh spent fifteen years inside that problem. Network engineering at Morgan Stanley, Monte Carlo engines for complex derivatives, running quant development and front office risk at RBS through and after 2008.  He co-founded FINBOURNE to solve it: one platform that speaks every language finance has invented, across every asset class. It raised one of the largest Series B rounds in UK fintech history. In this episode of The Modern Capital Podcast, Thomas and Marc cover: Why a single trade record has five different dates and how one record replaces five systemsWhy blockchain can't solve books and records: it only moves forward, can't restate history and everyone wants it private anywayThe three layers of the AI stack in finance: why the UI layer is dead, who wins orchestration and where the real moat livesWhy 60-80% of AI proof of concepts never reach production - and the permissions gap nobody is solvingThe SaaSpocalypse: why single-feature vertical SaaS is at genuine risk and what survives itGet the translation layer right and AI works. Get it wrong and the proof of concept never reaches production. Thomas has spent a decade building the former.

    49 min
  5. Kelly Rodriques: The Private Markets Moment We're In

    May 1

    Kelly Rodriques: The Private Markets Moment We're In

    Go to Yahoo Finance. Search SpaceX. You'll find a price.  That number comes from Forge. Private markets are the fastest-growing part of institutional finance, and they've never had what public markets took fifty years to build: reliable price discovery, standardized custody, a trading infrastructure that works at scale. Kelly Rodriques spent his career positioning as the infrastructure layer of industries at their inflection points. And in 2018, he took over a Y Combinator trading platform, rebranded it Forge and set out to build all three simultaneously. In July 2025, he demoed the next-generation platform to the ten largest financial institutions in the country. Several came back wanting to buy the company. One sent Chuck Schwab himself to take the meeting. In this episode, Kelly and Marc cover: The price discovery gap: why none of the funds currently packaging private shares are anchored to underlying NAV and why that should alarm every allocator watching this spaceThe 401(k) moment: an executive order opened $18 trillion in retirement savings to private markets, and the infrastructure to absorb it is still being builtThe civic case: 8,000 public companies in 1999, 4,000 today - and why restricting private markets to accredited investors is an inequality problemPISCES: why global exchanges are racing to know private companies before they go public"In the early 70s, we set out to democratize investing. And we've been watching you for a couple of years, and you're democratizing the private markets." Chuck Schwab said that to Kelly Rodriques in a conference room in 2025.  When Chuck Schwab buys your company, democratization stops being a vision. It becomes an obligation.

    1 hr
  6. John Markell & Matt Schwartz: What's Going on Under the Hood in Private Credit?

    Apr 22

    John Markell & Matt Schwartz: What's Going on Under the Hood in Private Credit?

    The headlines say private credit is in trouble. Here's what the practitioners are saying. The pressure is real. The cause is complicated. Redemptions are up - but the story isn't as simple as loans failing. The real story right now is relative portfolio exposure. Investors are seeing "software exposure" in their portfolios and many justifiably want to reduce it, given AI uncertainty around business models. Whether the underlying loans justify that fear is still an open question. What isn't debatable: the redemption pressure is real, and the market infrastructure to absorb it doesn't exist yet. John Markell of Armentum Partners and Matt Schwartz, Head of U.S. Finance at DLA Piper, live inside this market every day. In this episode of the Modern Capital Podcast, John, Matt, and Marc cover: Why software credit has been the best-performing segment of private credit over the past five years  and why that track record isn't cutting through the current noiseThe PE-backed vs. minority-owned distinction the market is missing: 2x ARR leverage versus 0.5x is a fundamentally different credit risk - the market is pricing them identicallyWhy back-leverage providers tightening advance rates is adding pressure one step further removed from the actual loansWhy software loans can't be sold the way conforming loans can and what lenders under liquidity pressure are discovering too lateFear compresses entry prices: who the sophisticated buyers are, why they're watching closely right now and why secondaries are their entry pointWhy the secondary market infrastructure to connect buyers and sellers is forming fast "Right now, software's being shoved in with other conforming loans, and people are going, wait, I see it there, I don't want it. So there has to be another way to do it." The buyers and sellers exist. The secondary market infrastructure to connect them is still forming. But it's forming fast - and this conversation is happening right in the middle of it.

    30 min
  7. Amar Varma: From Tinder to the Plumbing of Private Markets

    Apr 2

    Amar Varma: From Tinder to the Plumbing of Private Markets

    Not many people can say they sold a product to Barry Diller that changed how an entire generation meets. Amar Varma can. In the early 2010s, his mobile incubator Hatch Labs ran ten ideas through a corporate skunkworks inside IAC. Nine went nowhere. The tenth became Tinder. You know the rest. Now he's five exits deep and building Mantle, working on a problem that's less culturally famous but more consequential for anyone managing private markets capital at scale. Public markets work because everything reconciles. CUSIP codes. DTCC clearing. Buyers and sellers matched every day. Bloomberg exists because that foundation does. Private markets have cap tables updated by hand at 9pm on closing night. LPs logging into fifteen portals with fifteen 2FA codes. Subscription agreements tucked in a drawer. No identifier that follows a security from issuance to LP portfolio. No reconciliation layer.  The market is $30 trillion and growing. A 2025 executive order just opened $12 trillion in retirement assets to alternatives.  The infrastructure problem doesn't get smaller from here. In this episode, Amar and Marc cover: The Bloomberg-DTCC parallel: why public markets work and what private markets needs to build firstUSB plug fests: what standards-building in Silicon Valley in the 90s teaches about private markets todayWhy the cap table is the birth certificate and how connecting it to the LP portfolio changes everythingThe August 2025 executive order on alternatives and why it accelerates the infrastructure problem before it solves itWhat five exits actually teaches you about getting lucky "Nobody gets tired when they're doing the thing. They get tired when they're not successful." The infrastructure moment for private markets is here. Varma has spent thirty years showing up before anyone else knew there was a problem. This one is worth your time.

    1h 3m
  8. Talia Klein: Bringing a Quadrillion Dollar Utility to Private Markets

    Mar 27

    Talia Klein: Bringing a Quadrillion Dollar Utility to Private Markets

    Every time you allocate money into your 401(k), DTCC processes it.  Every equity trade in the United States - over 99% of them - clears and settles through DTCC.  Last year alone, it processed $4 quadrillion in activity. A million billions. Invisibly, at a cost of cents per transaction. Private markets have no equivalent. Yet. Private shares settle at T+90. Public markets just moved to T+1. Subscription documents still get stamped manually. Retail allocations to alternatives sit at 3% (institutions are at 20%), and if that gap closes even halfway, it adds $10 trillion in new capital that today's infrastructure cannot handle. That's the problem Talia Klein woke up to on day one as Head of Wealth and Investment Solutions at DTCC. She's built financial infrastructure at every major inflection point of the last fifteen years. Collateral eligibility systems at J.P. Morgan after the financial crisis - earning a patent in the process. Institutional blockchain at Digital Asset Holdings before most people knew what it was. Crypto custody at BNY, built from scratch, in five years.  She has a habit of showing up early to the infrastructure problems that later turn out to matter most. In this episode of the Modern Capital Podcast, Talia and Marc cover: The 1960s paperwork crisis that shut the NYSE on Wednesday afternoons - and why the digital version is already forming in private marketsWhy DTCC's FundServe playbook is the exact template private markets needs - and why it won't be a straight copy.The three-sided market problem: why private shares can't just be mapped to public equitiesT+90 vs. T+1: who closes that gap, and howWhy the standards problem isn't technical - it's about convening 100 institutions and making it worth their whileWhere DTCC is placing its bets across private funds, private shares and private credit"There's gotta be a better way."  That phrase built DTCC in 1986. Talia thinks private markets is about to say it out loud - and that the organization that solved it for public markets is the right one to solve it again. The infrastructure moment for private markets isn't coming. It's here.

    43 min
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Conversations with leaders building the infrastructure of private markets.

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  • Creator
    Marc Andrew
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    15
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    © @2025 Private Markets Intelligence Group

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