Health Coaching and Beyond

Ollie and Tim
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This podcast champions the belief that Health Coaching can change the world for the better! Your hosts Drs Ollie Hart and Tim Williams, are UK Family Doctors (GPs), who learnt to health coach with their patients over 40 years + combined experience. They found it so successful for their patients and themselves, they set up a company to teach others the skills....www.peakhealthcoaching.com Now they bring their enthusiasm for the topic to the airwaves, to encourage and promote the growth of health coaching in the NHS, in businesses, and any where that people matter. They will chat about current affairs related to person centred care, and topics related to health coaching. Some episodes involve carefully selected guests, others conversation between the 2 of them. They aim to inspire your confidence and knowledge to embrace health coaching and all the benefits and joy it can bring.

Episodes

  1. 1D AGO

    Episode 10 – Care Coordinator: a crucial new role in the NHS

    Summary In this episode, Ollie is joined by Darcy Parry, one of the earliest champions of the Care Coordinator role, to explore why this relatively new position is becoming so vital within the NHS. Drawing on five years in post, Darcy explains how the role supports some of the most vulnerable people in the system - those who may previously have struggled in silence or slipped through the gaps. Together, they unpack how care coordinators differ from health coaches, social prescribing link workers and care navigators, and why health coaching skills sit at the heart of truly personalised, compassionate care. The conversation highlights how this role represents a meaningful shift towards enabling autonomy, restoring dignity and addressing inequalities across the system. Takeaways The Care Coordinator role is a relatively new and evolving position within the NHS. Care coordinators often support the most vulnerable patients who may previously have been overlooked. The role helps reduce pressure on other parts of the system by providing consistent, relational support. Care coordinators are distinct from health coaches, social prescribing link workers and care navigators, but share core skills. Health coaching skills are foundational across personalised care roles. Continuity and relationship-building are central to effective coordination. The role plays an important part in addressing health inequalities. Supporting autonomy and self-worth is as important as managing clinical needs. The emergence of care coordinators signals a broader cultural shift towards compassionate, personalised care. The Peak Health Care coordinator conference and the importance of shared learning spaces to help strengthen and legitimise this growing workforce.

    36 min

  2. FEB 11

    Episode 9 – The science of mind–body medicine

    SummaryIn this episode, Ollie and Tim explore the rapidly emerging field of mind–body medicine. They explore what it means to integrate the mind–body connection into mainstream healthcare, as a growing evidence base shows how thoughts, emotions, beliefs and the nervous system can generate very real physical symptoms. Using examples from chronic pain and other persistent symptoms, they reflect on how clinicians are beginning to move away from simply labelling experiences as “medically unexplained” and instead offer more constructive, compassionate explanations. They explore how ruling out serious causes remains essential, but how recognising neuroplastic patterns can open up new possibilities for care. The conversation weaves through themes of safety, fear, emotional experience and the power of trusted relationships - considering how hope can be grounded in evidence rather than wishful thinking. Along the way, they touch on emerging research and therapeutic approaches, reflecting on what this shift might mean for health professionals, coaches and patients alike. Takeaways Mind–body medicine recognises that emotions, thoughts and beliefs can drive physical symptoms.The divide between “mental health” and “physical health” can be useful for organising care, but it often misses how closely connected the two really are.Many symptoms historically labelled “medically unexplained” may be better understood as neuroplastic symptoms, explainable patterns shaped by the nervous system.Good practice starts with ruling out serious physical causes, before ruling in a mind–body formulation.Fear and threat responses can amplify symptoms; helping someone feel safe is often a key part of recovery.Chronic pain can be maintained by common loops and eased through curiosity, observation and safety.Emotional awareness and expression may matter, especially around suppressed emotions like anger - but this needs careful, skilled practice and appropriate training.Relationships are therapeutic: trust with a practitioner and hope-building peer support can be central to progress, especially when ideas feel “left field.”The placebo and nocebo effects highlight how belief and expectation shape symptoms - and why framing, reassurance and meaning-making matter in care.Health coaching may be well-placed to support this work because it brings time, rapport, safety and collaboration, but must stay within scope and be backed by proper training.The aim isn’t to blame or dismiss symptoms, it’s to widen the map of what’s happening, expand treatment options, and replace “learn to live with it” with realistic, evidence-based hope.

    39 min

  3. FEB 4

    Episode 8 – Dr Caroline Hart on Aspirations, Capability and What Matters to You

    SummaryIn this episode, Ollie is joined by Dr Caroline Hart - academic, coach and director at Peak Health Coaching - for a conversation about aspirations, human development and what it really takes for people to live well. Drawing on Caroline’s research and Amartya Sen’s capability approach, they explore the idea that having a goal isn’t enough: people also need the freedom to imagine a future they value, the safety to voice it, and the real-world conditions to pursue it. The conversation connects these insights to the What Matters to You movement, personalised care and the role of health coaching in helping people feel seen, supported and empowered. They also reflect on the wider systems that shape agency - from workplaces and families to communities and policy - and why sustainable change depends on more than individual effort alone. Takeaways Aspirations are future-focused and shaped by what people value most.Not everyone has the same freedom to imagine a different future.Creating psychological safety helps people explore what matters.Voicing an aspiration can feel vulnerable and is a crucial step.People often “partially voice” what they want when it feels risky to name it.Health coaching can support freedom to aspire, voice and realise change.Capability is about real opportunity, not theoretical choice.Communities, peers and environments strongly influence wellbeing outcomes.Personalised care needs both individual agency and system support.Progress depends on collective action, without letting policymakers “off the hook”. Further reading and research linksThe following articles are referenced in this episode and explore the research underpinning the discussion: Hart, C. S. (2016). How Do Aspirations Matter?Journal of Human Development and Capabilities, 17(3), 324–341.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19452829.2016.1199540Hart, C. S. (2024). Nurturing the Capabilities to Aspire, Voice and Realise Aspirations: A Theoretical Analysis of the Transformative Potential of the National Health Service in EnglandFree e-print access:https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/4HMYMQMWP46SYVZMBVJG/full?target=10.1080/19452829.2024.2409778 Journal link:https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19452829.2024.2409778

    43 min

  4. JAN 28

    Episode 7 - AI, human connection and the future of health coaching

    SummaryIn this episode, Ollie and Tim explore the growing role of artificial intelligence in health coaching and wider healthcare settings. They reflect on where AI is already being used, the pressures driving its adoption and the opportunities it presents for reflection, learning and support. The conversation examines the balance between efficiency and human connection, the risks of over-reliance on technology and the importance of using AI thoughtfully rather than as a replacement for relational work. Throughout, they return to a central question: how can AI be used to support growth without eroding the core values that make health coaching effective? Takeaways AI is already influencing health coaching and healthcare practice.Used well, AI can support reflection, structure and thinking space.Health coaching remains a deeply human, relational practice.Efficiency should not come at the cost of presence and connection.AI cannot replace lived experience, empathy or trust.Thoughtful use of AI requires clear boundaries and intention.Consistency and accessibility can be helpful for some individuals.Over-reliance on technology risks narrowing human agency.Ethical use of AI must prioritise wellbeing, not convenience.The future of health coaching depends on keeping people at the centre.Yj6gsHfJUaBiAvMFC0r2

    31 min

  5. JAN 22

    Episode 6 - Professor Sir Chris Ham encourages health coaches to keep going

    Summary In this conversation, Ollie and Chris Ham discuss the evolving landscape of health coaching and the NHS, reflecting on the impact of the Drug-Free Doctor program and the importance of patient agency in health outcomes. They explore the challenges faced by the NHS post-pandemic, innovative community health practices, and the vital role of health coaching in personalized care. The discussion also touches on the need for a shift towards prevention, the influence of misinformation in health, and the importance of engagement in healthcare. Chris emphasises the need for optimism and hope in leadership as they navigate these challenges together. Takeaways Health coaching is essential for personalised care. Patient agency plays a crucial role in health outcomes. The NHS faces significant challenges post-pandemic. Community health practices can innovate care delivery. Health coaching skills are vital for healthcare professionals. Misinformation in health can hinder patient progress. Engagement in health care can reduce demand on services. Global health systems provide valuable lessons for the NHS. A shift towards prevention is necessary for sustainable health care. Optimism and hope are essential for effective leadership. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chris Ham's Background 05:41 Current State of the NHS and Future Ambitions 07:14 The Fourth Shift: Empowering Patients 10:32 Shared Responsibility in Healthcare 12:39 The Role of Policy in Healthcare Innovation 16:56 Learning from Global Healthcare Models 20:29 Shifting from Medical Model to Empowerment 21:48 Addressing Short-Term Challenges in the NHS 29:39 Advice for Health Coaches and Care Coordinators

    35 min

  6. JAN 15

    Episode 5 - Our ‘gogglebox’ review of Channel 4’s ‘Live Well with the Drug Free Doctor’

    Summary   In this episode, Tim and Ollie engage in a lively discussion about a recent Channel 4 program that highlights the effectiveness of non-drug approaches to managing chronic pain, metabolic health, and mental health. They reflect on the importance of health coaching in empowering individuals to take control of their health, emphasizing that personal stories and lived experiences can inspire significant changes. The conversation also touches on the need for a shift in the healthcare model, moving away from traditional biomedical approaches towards more holistic, patient-centered care that recognizes the role of lifestyle and self-management in health outcomes.   Tim and Ollie express admiration for Dr. Rangan Chatterjee, the host of the program, who advocates for a more integrated approach to health that includes lifestyle changes and self-care. They discuss the challenges faced by patients in adopting these changes, particularly in the context of social barriers and the need for personalized support. The episode concludes with a call to action for healthcare professionals to embrace these new paradigms and for listeners to consider their own health journeys, reinforcing the message that change is possible with the right support and mindset.   Takeaways   'The way that you are working and the things that you've been doing, that's absolutely on the money.' 'It's the stuff people do for themselves that really matters.' 'It's almost unethical now for us not to become the mainstream.' 'What we don't want is people feeling guilty that they're not recovering.' 'This is not rocket science.' 'We need to be focused on giving the right support.' 'It's about time we turned up the volume.' 'This is a social movement that's gathering momentum.'   Chapters   00:00 Introduction and Overview of The Drug Free Doctor 04:03 Empowerment Through Self-Management 06:37 The Role of Storytelling in Health Transformation 09:27 Challenges in Patient Recovery 11:58 The Importance of Support Systems 14:52 Non-Medical Interventions for Health 17:42 The Role of Health Coaching 20:14 Peer Support and Community Engagement 23:09 Personalization in Health Care 25:43 The Future of Health Care and Hope 30:24 lifestyle-intro-high-short.wav

    31 min

  7. JAN 6

    Episode 4- Deepak Ravindran & Lee Vaughan, latest thinking and new hope for chronic pain recovery

    Keywords pain management, chronic pain, health coaching, adverse childhood experiences, pain-free mindset, healthcare system, patient empowerment, neuroscience of pain, emotional trauma, pain recovery Summary In this enlightening conversation, Deepak Ravindran and Lee Vaughan share their journeys in pain management, emphasizing the importance of understanding chronic pain through a compassionate and patient-centered approach. They discuss the intersection of pain with emotional trauma, the role of adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), and the evolving landscape of pain management that includes health coaching. The discussion highlights the need for healthcare professionals to listen more deeply to patients' stories and the potential for recovery through innovative pain management strategies. Takeaways Deepak Ravindran is a consultant in pain medicine and lifestyle medicine. Lee Vaughan has over 30 years of lived experience with chronic pain. Pain management requires a compassionate, patient-centered approach. Adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) can significantly impact chronic pain. The concept of a pain-free MINDSET involves understanding the neuroscience of pain. Health coaching provides the time and space for patients to explore their pain. Listening to patients' stories is crucial for effective pain management. Pain is not always an accurate indicator of damage. Chronic pain can be influenced by emotional trauma and psychological factors. Recovery from pain is possible with the right support and strategies. Sound bites "The body can do its own repair." "We are experts within ourselves." "Hurt does not equal harm." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Pain Management Experts 02:18 Deepak's Journey into Pain Management 07:39 Lee's Personal Experience with Chronic Pain 11:22 Understanding Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) 15:24 The Concept of a Pain-Free Mindset 21:41 Hope in Pain Management 24:33 Navigating the Healthcare System 28:04 Transformative Pain Management Programs 36:12 The Role of Health Coaching 51:07 Challenging Beliefs About Pain 55:39 Experiments for Pain Awareness

    59 min

  8. 12/16/2025

    Episode 3 - Self-Compassion at Christmas

    Summary In this conversation, Ollie and Tim discuss the importance of self-compassion during the busy Christmas season. They explore the pressures associated with the holiday, the significance of gratitude, and the need to break away from traditional expectations. The discussion emphasizes the value of listening to others and oneself, as well as the importance of self-care during this hectic time.  Chapters 00:00 The Christmas Spirit and Self-Compassion 05:35 Practicing Gratitude and Reflection 11:13 Breaking Traditions and Embracing Change 16:44 Challenging Limiting Beliefs 22:10 The Gift of Listening and Self-Care   Takeaways Self-compassion is essential during the busy holiday season. Practicing gratitude can enhance mental health and well-being. Reflecting on positive moments from the year can foster appreciation. Breaking away from traditional holiday expectations can reduce stress. Listening deeply to others can be a meaningful gift during Christmas. Planning ahead can help manage holiday indulgences mindfully. Challenging limiting beliefs can lead to a more enjoyable holiday experience. Taking time for oneself is crucial amidst holiday obligations. Creating new traditions can bring joy and reduce pressure. Self-care should not be overlooked during the festive season.

    26 min

  9. 12/09/2025

    Episode 2 - Dr Behrooz Behbod, Mind as a Catalyst for Change

    In our first interview, we are delighted to welcome Harvard and Oxford trained Public Health Expert and Transformative Wellbeing Coach, Dr Behrooz Behbod. He generously shares his personal experience of burnout, and how rediscovering coaching reignited his career and love of his work. We go on to explore a range of topics from the mind as a catalyst, to the role of health coaching in Public Health and our shared views about the beliefs that sit at the heart of health coaching. Behrooz combines his NHS work with a his own business 'The Entrepreneur’s Doctor', coaching entrepreneurs in the health sector.......and beyond! https://www.entrepreneurs.doctor/ He frequently writes on Linkedin (including a piece with Ollie) https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/health-coaching-public-catalyst-change-dr-behrooz-behbod-jbnse/?trackingId=gQOJk1XVI1VRRZClvfrgpA%3D%3D and the piece on leadership discussed in the conversation https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7403688403457843200/ 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Behrooz Behbod 02:12 The Journey of a Health Coach 04:43 Understanding Burnout and Its Impact 07:18 The Role of Health Coaching in Wellbeing 09:57 Health Coaching's Place in the Healthcare Sector 12:10 The Mind as a Catalyst for Change 14:42 Integrating Coaching into Public Health 17:25 Transformative Coaching and Patientpreneurs 20:11 Understanding Entrepreneurial Mindsets in Healthcare 21:58 The Disconnect in Coaching Perceptions 24:22 The Role of Beliefs in Coaching 27:47 Essence of Effective Coaching 32:42 Misconceptions About Coaching 34:01 Advice for Aspiring Coaches

    38 min

  10. 12/06/2025

    Launching Episode 1 - Our Origin Story

    We are graduating to a fully listed podcast, having road tested 15 episodes on Youtube. In this episode Ollie and Tim recap their journey to being GPs who learnt to health coach. Then on to setting up Peak Health Coaching to roll out the training and implementation of Health Coaching in the NHS and beyond...... 00:00 The Origins of Health Coaching How we discovered the value of health coaching and applied on our work as GPs 02:48 Realizations in Pain Management Connecting in the pain clinic.....where we first saw the impact of health coaching 05:50 The Journey into Coaching How each of us expanded our knowledge 09:00 Patient Activation and Personalized Care The importance of tailoring to where people are starting from, in terms of their Skills, Knowledge and confidence. 12:08 Building Skills for Self-Care 14:49 The Role of Health Coaching in Outcomes 18:07 Scaling Health Coaching 21:00 Integrating Health, Social, and Self-Care These 3 dimensions sit at the root of sustainable and effective health and wellbeing support. 23:54 Future Directions in Health Coaching 26:53 The Importance of Workplace Health How health coaching can be applied in the work setting, a new option to explore? 29:50 Reflections on Identity and Impact Tim reflects on life after practicing as a GP.

    34 min
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This podcast champions the belief that Health Coaching can change the world for the better! Your hosts Drs Ollie Hart and Tim Williams, are UK Family Doctors (GPs), who learnt to health coach with their patients over 40 years + combined experience. They found it so successful for their patients and themselves, they set up a company to teach others the skills....www.peakhealthcoaching.com Now they bring their enthusiasm for the topic to the airwaves, to encourage and promote the growth of health coaching in the NHS, in businesses, and any where that people matter. They will chat about current affairs related to person centred care, and topics related to health coaching. Some episodes involve carefully selected guests, others conversation between the 2 of them. They aim to inspire your confidence and knowledge to embrace health coaching and all the benefits and joy it can bring.

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  • Creator
    Ollie and Tim
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    10
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    © 2025 Ollie and Tim