Beyond Leading

Beyond Leading

Leadership is never only about the leader. Beyond Leading is for people who want to understand what is really going on when leadership gets complicated — when teams get stuck, decisions aren't clear, businesses change, relationships become difficult or the usual leadership advice simply isn't enough. Hosted by executive coach and Non-Executive Director Alec Pearson, the podcast explores the whole leadership system — from self-awareness, confidence and behaviour, through trust, conflict and team dynamics, to decision-making, accountability, organisational performance, executive leadership and the boardroom. Each episode is designed to make you think differently about the situations you are dealing with. Not by offering another neat five-step formula, but by looking beneath the surface, challenging assumptions and asking the questions that are easy to miss. Through solo episodes and conversations with leaders, business owners, coaches and specialists, Beyond Leading helps you make better sense of yourself, your team and the organisation around you. Because what happens in one part of the system rarely stays there. 🎙 Beyond Leading — and everything in between.

  1. Oct 15

    Ep 27 - When the Horse Says No: What It Reveals About Your Leadership

    with Alec Pearson and Jude Jennison. What does a horse know about leadership? Quite a lot, as it turns out. Jude Jennison works with senior leaders and executive teams using a herd of horses to expose something that's much harder to see in the meeting room: our default patterns of behaviour. A horse doesn't care about your job title, experience or intentions. It responds to what you're actually communicating: your confidence, clarity, energy, emotions and behaviour. And when it doesn't want to follow you, the feedback is immediate. There is no carefully worded performance review. The horse simply says no.. In this episode of Beyond Leading, Alec talks with Jude about what happens when experienced leaders are taken outside their comfort zone and can no longer rely on the behaviours that have always worked for them. They explore: why horses reveal leadership blind spots so quicklywhat control, self-doubt and lack of clarity look like under pressurewhy stronger relationships don't mean avoiding challenge or conflictwhat happens when teams work harder but aren't genuinely alignedwhy effective leadership starts with paying attention to yourself and the people around you Jude also shares some remarkable examples from her work, including an exhausted leadership team whose fatigue was exposed when the horses simply lay down. Ultimately, this is a conversation about what horses can reveal that the boardroom often cannot: the hidden patterns, blind spots and behaviours that shape how we really lead. Jude Jennison is the Founder of Leaders by Nature. A former IBM leader, she has developed more than 5,000 leaders, written three books and works with organisations to change how leaders and teams behave under pressure, uncertainty and change. Find out more about Jude and Leaders by Nature: Website: https://www.leadersbynature.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/judejennison/ Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes — wherever you listen.

    Ep 27 - When the Horse Says No: What It Reveals About Your Leadership
  2. Oct 1

    Ep 26 - The Business That Got You Here Won't Get You There

    with Alec Pearson and Claire Ryan. A business can be successful and still reach a point where the way it has always worked is no longer enough. The systems may be creaking. Too much may still depend on the owner. Different parts of the business may be working in isolation. And now AI is adding another layer of pressure — and another set of decisions. So how do you know when the business needs to change? And how do you avoid reaching for new technology before you really understand the problem you are trying to solve? In this episode Alec Pearson is joined by Claire Ryan, a business transformation specialist who works with successful business owners at exactly this kind of turning point. Claire helps businesses step back, look at how they are really operating, and work out what needs to change if they are going to remain relevant, competitive and ready for what comes next. In this episode: Why successful businesses can outgrow the systems, processes and ways of working that got them this far.What AI is exposing about technology, data, governance and decision-making inside organisations.The leadership challenge of changing a business when people, including sometimes the founder or MD, may not be ready to move. This is a conversation about business transformation, but also about judgement. About knowing when something that once worked no longer does. And about recognising when the next stage of growth requires more than simply doing more of the same. To connect with Claire Ryan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-ryan-mba/ Email: claire@fusioneconsulting.co.uk Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes — wherever you listen.

    Ep 26 - The Business That Got You Here Won't Get You There
  3. Sep 17

    Ep 25 - When Nobody Owns The Outcome

    with Alec Pearson. What happens when everyone follows the process, does exactly what they are supposed to do, and the problem still isn’t solved? That is where ownership gets interesting. In this episode Alec Pearson explores what happens when responsibility is spread across teams, functions and organisations, but nobody is truly accountable for the outcome. A recent experience with a serious mechanical failure brought the issue into sharp focus. Everyone involved appeared to have a role. Everyone had a process. Everyone could explain what they had done. And yet one question remained: Who actually owned the outcome? It is a pattern that appears inside many organisations more often than we might like to admit. Problems are handed over, escalated, logged and passed on. Everyone can point to their part of the process. But the problem itself can remain unresolved. In this episode, I explore: The difference between responsibility and genuine accountabilityWhy following the process is not the same as owning the outcomeWhen judgement and leadership need to take over from processWhat leaders should ask about ownership across their organisation Because organisations can become very good at processing problems. The real test of leadership is what happens when somebody recognises that the process is no longer enough. And if everybody owns a piece of the process, there is always a risk that nobody owns the problem. Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes — wherever you listen.

    Ep 25 - When Nobody Owns The Outcome
  4. Aug 20

    Ep 23 - Listening Skills for Leaders: How to Hear What People Aren't Saying - with Joseph McGuire

    with Alec Pearson, Joseph McGuire. Joseph McGuire has spent a career learning to read people — three decades as a therapist before moving into executive communication, behavioural profiling and leadership development. Through his company, Clearsight Communications, he now helps leaders understand human behaviour, build trust, and hear what's really being said. We tend to think communication is about how well we speak. Joseph thinks it's the other way round. The leaders who truly understand a room usually aren't the ones doing the talking — they're the ones who can hear what isn't being said. In this episode, Alec Pearson sits down with Joseph to explore listening as a leadership skill almost nobody is actually taught. Not the "active listening" box-tick — but hearing tone, hesitation, the gaps, and everything a person's body says while their words say something else. As Joseph puts it, communication begins before a word is spoken. For senior leaders, and anyone building toward that seat, it may be the most underrated skill you own. In this conversation: Why the higher you rise, the more your listening can quietly slipThe one simple question that pulled a struggling company back from the brinkWhat an ancient way of reading people reveals about the skill we keep getting wrongWhy the sharpest leaders treat a hire almost like an interrogation — and the failure rate that proves the pointHow to catch the exact moment someone's words and their body stop agreeingThe kind of presence that commands a room without ever raising a voice If you've ever walked out of a conversation certain you missed something, this one's for you. You can connect with Joseph McGuire and Clearsight Communications on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-mcguire-face-facts/ Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes - wherever you listen.

    Ep 23 - Listening Skills for Leaders: How to Hear What People Aren't Saying - with Joseph McGuire
  5. Aug 6

    Ep 22 - The Wellbeing Lie: Part 2 - When High Achievers Break

    with Alec Pearson and Dr Calvin Lightbody. In Part 1, Alec and Calvin took apart the comfortable version of wellbeing - the fruit bowls, the tick-box initiatives - and named the warning signs leaders are so good at driving past. This time it gets personal. Because there's a harder question sitting underneath all of it: what's really happening to the high achiever who keeps pushing long after the tank is empty? When we feel stuck, the instinct is to work harder. Calvin has watched where that leads - in senior clinicians, in managers, in himself. There's a concept from healthcare that explains it better than any wellbeing survey ever could: the slow, repeated wear that cracks even the strongest people, one small pressure at a time, until something gives. It has a name most leaders have never heard, and once you understand it, you start seeing it everywhere. Including in yourself. We explore: When you feel stuck, why is working harder so often the wrong move, and what's really hiding underneath it?What quietly gets worse the higher you climb, not better, and why does no one at the top talk about it?There's a kind of damage that builds up one small knock at a time. What is it, and why isn't it just a healthcare problem?If you've recognised yourself in any of this, what's the one thing to do tomorrow morning? If you've been holding it together for longer than you'd care to admit, this one is worth your time. To submit an anonymous question for discussion in part 3, visit: Beyond Leading: Ask Calvin & Alec – Fill in form Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes - wherever you listen.

    Ep 22 - The Wellbeing Lie:  Part 2 - When High Achievers Break
  6. Jul 23

    Ep 21 - The Wellbeing Lie: Part 1 - Wellness Isn't Wellbeing

    with Alec Pearson and Dr Calvin Lightbody. Every organisation says it takes wellbeing seriously. The fruit bowl, the yoga session, the mindfulness app someone signed everyone up to. And yet the people carrying the most keep quietly running on empty. Not because the perks aren't pleasant, but because almost none of it touches the thing that's actually wearing them down. What if most of what your organisation calls wellbeing isn't wellbeing at all? There's a difference between wellness and wellbeing that most leaders have never stopped to notice, and once you see it, you can't unsee how much of the well-meaning stuff misses the point. Calvin has watched it play out on the front line of an emergency department, and what he's learned there lands in every high-stakes workplace. Including yours. We explore: What's the difference between wellness and wellbeing, and why does mixing them up cost you more than you think?Could your wellbeing initiatives actually be making things worse rather than better?Why do the strongest, most capable people so often drive straight past their own warning signs?What's the one question Calvin believes every leader should ask themselves on Monday morning, that almost none of them do? If you lead people, and you care whether they thrive or just survive, this one is worth your time. Follow Beyond Leading on LinkedIn for episode clips and updates: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-leading-podcast Follow/subscribe to Beyond Leading for new episodes - wherever you listen.

    Ep 21 - The Wellbeing Lie:  Part 1 - Wellness Isn't Wellbeing

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Leadership is never only about the leader. Beyond Leading is for people who want to understand what is really going on when leadership gets complicated — when teams get stuck, decisions aren't clear, businesses change, relationships become difficult or the usual leadership advice simply isn't enough. Hosted by executive coach and Non-Executive Director Alec Pearson, the podcast explores the whole leadership system — from self-awareness, confidence and behaviour, through trust, conflict and team dynamics, to decision-making, accountability, organisational performance, executive leadership and the boardroom. Each episode is designed to make you think differently about the situations you are dealing with. Not by offering another neat five-step formula, but by looking beneath the surface, challenging assumptions and asking the questions that are easy to miss. Through solo episodes and conversations with leaders, business owners, coaches and specialists, Beyond Leading helps you make better sense of yourself, your team and the organisation around you. Because what happens in one part of the system rarely stays there. 🎙 Beyond Leading — and everything in between.