Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers

Dr. Esther C. Bubb

Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is a weekly podcast where leadership meets behavior science, and where educators, clinicians, and humans grow. Hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, BCBA, LBS, each Friday, the podcast brings dynamic conversations, lived experiences, and behavior-based leadership discussions from diverse guests. These episodes are designed to help you connect theory to practice, hear how leadership unfolds in complex systems, and consider how behavior is shaped, supported, and sustained in authentic contexts. As part of the Behaviorally Speaking Leadership Lab, a weekly leadership lab where change makers learn, test, and apply behavior-based strategies for real-world impact, Dr. Bubb invites you to listen actively, learn from lived expertise, and expand how you lead through connection and understanding. For more knowledge and learning, visit https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/. 

  1. 15h ago

    S4 E7: Adversity Does Not Have the Final Word: Mavis Bubb on Resilience, Purpose, and Authentic Leadership

    What happens when the experiences that challenge us most become the experiences that prepare us to lead, inspire, and make a difference? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with her big sister, Mavis H. Bubb, Executive Leadership Coach, Public Speaker, Author, and Senior Career Banker, for an honest conversation about resilience, personal freedom, leadership, and turning pain into purpose. Mavis shares her leadership journey, from navigating personal adversity and rebuilding her life and career to advancing professionally, pursuing higher education, and using her experiences to encourage others. Her story offers a compelling reminder that leadership is not simply a title we hold; it is demonstrated through our actions, consistency, values, and influence. Together, Esther and Mavis explore what it means to live according to your purpose rather than other people's expectations, overcome limiting beliefs, and make courageous decisions even when the next step feels uncertain. They also discuss the importance of mentorship, lifelong learning, support systems, and recognizing potential in others before they recognize it in themselves. The conversation takes a particularly important turn toward women in leadership and gender-based violence. Drawing on her lived experience, Mavis discusses the importance of creating safe environments, educating young people about healthy relationships, challenging harmful beliefs, and refusing to normalize abuse. Esther and Mavis reflect on how families, workplaces, churches, schools, and communities can contribute to lasting change through consistent action, accountability, and compassionate leadership. Throughout the episode, one message remains clear: our experiences can become a source of learning, connection, and influence when we choose to use them to help others. In this episode, you'll discover: Why leadership is influence and action, not merely a title. How resilience, courage, and consistency help us navigate adversity. How to turn painful experiences into lessons that can support others. Why personal values serve as a compass during difficult decisions. How women can navigate limiting beliefs, competing responsibilities, and leadership opportunities. Why mentorship and supportive relationships can change the direction of someone's life. How leaders and communities can challenge gender-based violence and create safer environments. One practical step you can take today to move beyond a limiting belief. Your Monday Morning Move Identify one limiting belief that has been holding you back. Challenge it, choose one courageous action, and start where you are. As Mavis reminds us, we cannot keep doing the same things and expect different results. Progress begins when we take that first step and continue with consistency. Continue the conversation: What experience has shaped the leader or person you are today, and how might you use what you have learned to help someone else? Listen, reflect, and share this episode with someone who needs encouragement to take their next step. Visit esthercbubbabaservices.com for additional resources and updates. Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers — Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people. It's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog/f/adversity-does-not-have-the-final-word  Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Mavis H. Bubb, MBA, Executive Leadership Coach, Public Speaker, Author, Senior Career Banker Mavis H. Bubb is an Executive Leadership Coach, Public Speaker, Author and Senior Career Banker with extensive experience in the financial services industry. With a strong foundation in risk management and leadership development, Mavis combines strategic insight with practical experience to strengthen organizational performance and leadership capacity. Her leadership development workshops equip professionals to lead with clarity, resilience, and measurable impact. She is a sought-after keynote speaker, recognized for delivering practical, inspiring, and thought-provoking presentations that challenge and empower audiences both locally and internationally. Mavis is a co-author of “Transforming Pain into Purpose” and serves on the Leadership Team at her church, where her faith underpins her commitment to excellence and service. Mavis lives by a simple but powerful motto: “If something is worth doing, it’s worth doing well.” AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  2. Oct 23

    S4 E6: Big-Impact Leadership Begins With Small Actions: How Jewel & Shalleann Alexis-Josey Are Inspiring Change Through Leadership, Kindness & Love ❤️ 🇬🇩

    Can one small act of kindness really make a difference? In this heartfelt episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb talks with youth leader Jewel Alexis-Josey and her mother, Shalleann Alexis-Josey, about how purpose becomes action and how everyday choices can help create safer, kinder, more connected communities. Jewel began imagining ways to help others when she was just five years old. Today, her message encourages people to bridge divides, support those in need, and stand together against violence and hate. Alongside her, Shalleann shares lessons from parenting, community service, and raising children to recognize their value and their ability to lead. In this conversation, we explore: Why leadership is not determined by age, title, or position—but by the choice to act. How small acts of kindness can inspire others and build momentum for community change. Why children need adults who model compassion, listen to them, and practice service alongside them. How encouragement, affirming words, and self-belief can help young people respond to bullying and peer pressure. Why love, unity, and seeing one another’s humanity matter in leadership. A practical Monday Morning Move: choose kindness even when it is not returned, and offer encouragement instead of criticism. Jewel and Shalleann remind us that change does not have to begin with a platform or a position. It can begin with a kind word, a meal shared, a person made to feel seen, or the courage to take the first step. As Jewel puts it, “We don’t fight each other, we fight together”—because love can heal and service can create a legacy that reaches beyond ourselves. Monday Morning Move: Make one intentional choice to encourage rather than criticize. Offer a thoughtful word, recognize someone’s effort, or show kindness without expecting anything in return. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog/f/big-impact-leadership-begins-with-small-actions  Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guests Jewel Alexis Josey, 10-Year-Old Humanitarian, Youth Leader, and Founder of Accelerate & Arise Foundation Inc. Jewel Alexis-Josey is a 10-year-old humanitarian, youth leader, and founder of Accelerate & Arise Foundation Inc. (Where Love Wins), a Brooklyn-based nonprofit dedicated to empowering communities through service and unity. At just five years old, she received a vision to create positive change—leading efforts to feed the hungry, support the homeless, and bridge the gap between law enforcement and communities while sharing her message: “We don’t fight each other, we fight together—for only love wins.” Since then, she has helped provide essential resources to over 2,000 individuals across the U.S., Africa, and the Caribbean. Jewel made history as one of the youngest participants in the White House National Day of Prayer for the Nation and has received national recognition, including the U.S. Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award and acknowledgment from former President Joe Biden. Named a Global Youth Ambassador and International Role Model for Change, she has been featured on major platforms including The Drew Barrymore Show and Here & Now. She now leads the R.I.S.E. Against Violence & Hate Initiative (Recognize, Interrupt, Support, Empower)—a youth-driven movement bringing together students, community leaders, and public officials to promote safety, unity, and meaningful change. Shalleann Alexis-Josey, Educator, Director of Accelerate & Arise Foundation, Inc. Shalleann Alexis-Josey is a devoted mother of four, foster parent, educator, former healthcare professional, community leader, and co-founder of Where Love Wins Inc. and the R.I.S.E. Against Violence & Hate Initiative. Driven by a lifelong passion for creating positive social change, she has dedicated her life to empowering children, strengthening families, and transforming communities through service and compassion. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology, a Bachelor of Arts in Special Education, and an Associate Degree in Childhood Education. Her commitment to community service has earned her recognition from both the United States Senate and the New York State Assembly. Through innovative programs such as Sew with Love and the R.I.S.E. Kids Got Talent & Fashion Show, Shalleann creates opportunities that build confidence, develop leadership, and inspire hope in young people. She has also led numerous back-to-school initiatives, holiday drives, and humanitarian outreach efforts serving children and families in Grenada, Africa, and communities across the United States. Believing that "We don't fight each other, we fight together, because only love wins," Shalleann continues to inspire others by proving that one life dedicated to service can make a lasting impact for generations. Facebook: Where Love Wins Email: info.lovewins@gmail.com Phone: 1 (347) 440-2020 AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  3. Oct 16

    S4 E5: The Hidden Ways Childhood Trauma Shapes Relationships, Leadership, and Healing with Tyrrea L. Graves

    What if some of the ways we communicate, respond to conflict, build relationships, and lead others are connected to messages we learned long before we understood their meaning? In this powerful and deeply personal conversation, Dr. Esther Bubb welcomes back Tyrrea L. Graves, MEd, MBA, BCBA, LBS—Board-Certified Behavior Analyst, educator, entrepreneur, speaker, and author of Unspoken Truths: Marriage, Power, Secrets, and Survival. Drawing on more than 20 years of experience working with children and families, Tyrrea shares how childhood experiences, family dynamics, and the unspoken messages we inherit can influence our adult behavior, relationships, communication, and leadership. Through personal reflection, behavioral science, and storytelling, she invites us to consider the patterns we carry, the triggers we may not fully understand, and the truths we may have learned to keep silent. Together, Esther and Tyrrea explore: Childhood mantras and learned behavior: How messages such as “be strong,” “keep family matters private,” and “just get along” can influence the way we navigate adulthood. The power of self-reflection: Why asking “Why does this trigger me?” and “When was the first time I felt this way?” can open the door to greater self-awareness. Silence and healing: How unspoken experiences can remain influential and why creating space for honest, compassionate conversations matters. Generational patterns: How family norms and coping strategies can be passed down—and how intentional choices can help interrupt patterns we no longer want to repeat. Behavior analysis beyond traditional practice: How Tyrrea combines her professional knowledge and love of reading to make behavioral concepts accessible through fiction. Leadership and emotional intelligence: Why understanding our own triggers, values, and responses can help us better serve the people we lead. Boundaries, self-care, and growth: Why recognizing our capacity, giving ourselves grace, and working on ourselves over time are essential parts of the journey. This conversation is a reminder that understanding behavior requires more than looking at what someone does. It calls for curiosity about learning history, relationships, context, and the experiences that may be influencing the present. As Tyrrea reminds us, silence does not erase trauma. Her journey also offers an important message about taking responsibility for our growth, seeking support when needed, and making conscious choices about what we carry forward. Whether you are a leader, educator, behavior analyst, parent, or someone reflecting on your own personal journey, this episode invites you to look beneath the surface, challenge inherited assumptions, and consider what it means to create different possibilities for yourself and future generations. Reflection What messages did you learn growing up that still influence how you communicate, respond to conflict, establish boundaries, or lead others today? 0.5 Free BCBA Ethics CEU Available If you would like to obtain 0.5 Free Ethics CEU after listening to the episode, email Dr. Bubb at mail@esthercbubbabaservices.com. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About Our Guest Tyrrea L. Graves, MEd, MBA, BCBA, LBS, Author Tyrrea L. Graves, MEd is a Board-Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), educator, entrepreneur, speaker, and author with more than 20 years of experience helping individuals, families, and organizations understand human behavior and drive meaningful change. As the CEO and Founder of Autistic Angels Behavioral Health, LLC, she has dedicated her career to empowering others through evidence-based practices, leadership, and compassionate support. Her work focuses on helping people recognize how early life experiences shape behavior, relationships, communication, and emotional well-being. Tyrrea is the author of Unspoken Truths: Marriage, Power, Secrets, and Survival, a powerful novel exploring how unresolved childhood experiences silently shape our adult lives. Drawing on storytelling, behavioral science, and lived experience, she invites audiences to examine the hidden patterns that influence how we love, lead, communicate, and heal. Her mission is to inspire honest conversations that break generational cycles, promote emotional healing, and empower people to reclaim their voices and live more authentically. Social Media Handles Facebook: Tyrrea Ross Graves & Autistic Angels, LLC  Instagram: Tyrreawrites Unspoken Truths Website: https://www.theunspokentruthbook.com/ AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  4. Oct 9

    S4 E4: From Poverty to Physician: Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard on Women in Medicine, Leadership, & Purpose

    What does it take to turn a dream into a life of purpose? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with fellow Grenadian Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard, physician, educator, healthcare leader, and advocate, for a personal conversation about perseverance, purpose, leadership, and the journey from humble beginnings to medicine. Betty-Ann shares the story of growing up in Grenada, the influence of her family and especially her mother's emphasis on education, and how she developed the dream of becoming a physician. She takes us through her journey to studying medicine in Cuba, returning to Grenada, navigating professional challenges, and establishing herself as a woman in medicine. Together, Esther and Betty-Ann explore what leadership looks like when you are working directly with people, especially when what appears on the surface may not tell the whole story. Betty-Ann reflects on listening carefully to patients, looking beyond presenting symptoms, resisting assumptions, and recognizing when someone may need more than the immediate solution to the problem that brought them through the door. The conversation also takes a difficult but important turn toward gender-based violence, healthcare, education, and social change. Betty-Ann discusses the role healthcare professionals can play when individuals experiencing violence seek care, the challenges created by limited resources, and why education must be part of the larger conversation about prevention. At the heart of the episode is a message about purpose: using what you have learned, what you have experienced, and the opportunities you have been given to help create possibilities for others. From a young girl in Grenada with a dream of becoming a doctor to a physician committed to serving others, Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard's story is a reminder that “Sometimes you just have to dig deeper.” In this episode, we explore: Growing up in Grenada and the influence of family and education Betty-Ann's journey from humble beginnings to becoming a physician Studying medicine in Cuba and returning home to Grenada Perseverance and overcoming professional challenges Women pursuing careers in medicine and other traditionally challenging fields Looking beyond the presenting problem to understand the person Compassion, listening, and resisting assumptions in healthcare Gender-based violence as a public health and leadership challenge The role of education in prevention and social change The importance of purpose, service, and creating opportunities for others 🎙️ Listen now: From Poverty to Physician: Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard on Women in Medicine, Leadership & Purpose #BehaviorallySpeaking #LeadershipForChangeMakers #WomenInMedicine #Leadership #Purpose #Grenada #HealthcareLeadership #SocialChange 0.5 Free BCBA Ethics CEU Available If you would like to obtain 0.5 Free Ethics CEU after listening to the episode, email Dr. Bubb at mail@esthercbubbabaservices.com. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About the Guest Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard, MD — Educator, Healthcare Leader Dr. Betty-Ann Bernard was born and raised in Village Road, Grenville, St. Andrew, Grenada. Supported by her mother, she completed her education at St. Andrew’s R.C. Primary School, St. Joseph’s Convent Grenville, and T.A. Marryshow Community College before securing a scholarship to pursue her childhood dream of studying medicine in Cuba. After completing seven years of medical education and training in Cuba, Dr. Bernard returned to Grenada post-Hurricane Ivan in September 2004, volunteering in the Accident & Emergency Department at the General Hospital before beginning her formal internship in January 2005. She spent 18 years serving as a house officer in Obstetrics & Gynecology, Pediatrics, and A&E. Since June 2022, she has served as District Medical Officer at the St. George’s Health Centre. Beyond clinical practice, Dr. Bernard mentors medical interns, serves as a preceptor for St. George's University (SGU) medical students, and leads community health outreach initiatives across churches, health fairs, and local schools. AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  5. Oct 2

    S4 E3: Understanding Human Behavior | Leadership, Crime, Trauma, and Systems Change with Dr. Timothy J. Templin

    What can forensic behavior analysis teach us about leadership, trauma, crime, compassion, and changing systems? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with Dr. Timothy J. Templin, Ph.D., BCBA, a behavior analyst with extensive experience in forensic psychiatric care and a longtime contributor to the field of forensic behavior analysis. Tim shares his journey from psychology and forensic psychiatric care into behavior analysis and criminal behaviorology—and explains why understanding the environment surrounding behavior is essential for effective leadership. Together, Esther and Tim explore: How environmental contingencies influence behavior and leadership What behavior analysis can teach us about crime, aggression, and gender-based violence Why changes in reporting and data collection matter when interpreting increases in crime How trauma can shape behavior long after a traumatic experience occurs Ethical challenges when applying behavior analysis in forensic and correctional settings Why compassion and accountability can—and should—coexist How inconsistent systems and staff responses can contribute to behavioral escalation The importance of behavioral skills training, coaching, modeling, and reinforcement in changing institutional culture Why behavior analysts can—and perhaps should—work beyond traditional clinical settings How behavior science is already being used in fields such as criminal justice, worker safety, traffic safety, animal training, and other areas One simple way leaders can become more behaviorally aware One of the central ideas emerging from the conversation is that behavior analysis does not belong to one setting or one job title. Behavior occurs everywhere—and understanding behavior can help us create more effective environments wherever we lead. As Tim reminds us, we do not always need to introduce people to technical terminology to help them use behavioral principles. Sometimes, leadership begins with simply helping people understand that different responses can produce different outcomes. Dr. Templin is the host of Criminal Behaviorology and is involved with the Crime and Behavior Academy, providing training and consultation related to crime and behavior analysis. Listen in for a thought-provoking conversation about human behavior, leadership, trauma, ethics, compassion, and the possibilities for behavior science beyond traditional boundaries. 0.5 Free BCBA Ethics CEU Available If you would like to obtain 0.5 Free Ethics CEU after listening to the episode, email Dr. Bubb at mail@esthercbubbabaservices.com. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About the Guest Dr. Timothy J. Templin, Ph.D., BCBA Dr. Templin has worked for many years in forensic psychiatric care as a counselor and behavior analyst across various settings. He completed his Ph.D. in Applied Behavior Analysis at Endicott College. For years, he has been an active member of the Forensic Behavior Analysis SIG and presents extensively on topics including forensics, ethics, competency to stand trial, and behavioral case conceptualization. He is the host of the podcast Criminal Behaviorology and co-founder of the Crime and Behavior Academy, which provides training and consultation on crime and behavior analysis. AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  6. Sep 25

    S4 E2: Leadership, Choice, and Care: Rethinking Assent in ABA with Dr. Matt Tincani

    What does ethical leadership look like when individual choice, safety, autonomy, and meaningful outcomes do not always point in the same direction? In this episode of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers, Dr. Esther Bubb sits down with Dr. Matt Tincani, PhD, BCBA-D, Professor of Special Education and Applied Behavior Analysis at Temple University, for a thoughtful conversation about assent, autonomy, capacity, ethics, and the responsibilities that come with influencing others. Matt explains how he conceptualizes assent as behavior and discusses why distinguishing assent from consent, capacity, dissent, and autonomy matters. Together, Esther and Matt explore the risks of oversimplifying complex ethical questions and the importance of examining behavior, contingencies, capacity, safety, and the individual’s circumstances. The conversation moves beyond ABA as Esther and Matt consider how these ideas apply to leadership more broadly. What happens when people comply with a policy but are not truly willing? How can leaders create environments that support autonomy while still recognizing situations where safety and meaningful outcomes must be considered? And how do we create conditions where people can develop the skills they need to express preferences and make meaningful choices? Matt also introduces the idea of “balanced assent”—actively providing opportunities for assent where possible while recognizing that not every choice can or should be honored in every circumstance. This episode is an invitation to move beyond “either/or” thinking and toward greater curiosity, critical thinking, and evidence-informed decision-making. In this episode, we explore: Assent versus informed consent Assent as behavior and verbal behavior Capacity and the ability to understand consequences Autonomy and self-determination Safety, choice, and competing values The role of parents, caregivers, and other stakeholders Why behavior analysts should examine contingencies The danger of oversimplifying complex ethical questions “Balanced assent” and what it might mean in practice Why leaders should remain willing to revise their ideas as evidence evolves Listen, reflect, and consider: What conditions are you creating for the people you lead to learn, grow, and exercise meaningful choice? 0.5 Free BCBA Ethics CEU Available If you would like to obtain 0.5 Free Ethics CEU after listening to the episode, email Dr. Bubb at mail@esthercbubbabaservices.com. About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About the Guest Dr. Matt Tincani, PhD, BCBA-D, Professor, Special Education and Applied Behavior Analysis, Temple University Bio Matt Tincani, PhD, BCBA-D is a professor of applied behavior analysis and special education at Temple University. His work focuses on the application of behavioral principles to improve outcomes for people with disabilities and other special learning needs. His interests include systematic reviews of behavior science research, teaching job-related skills to neurodivergent people, smart technologies to improve special education, single-case designs, meta science, and open science. His recent work has explored questionable and improved research practices in single-case designs. He has published over 100 scholarly publications, including the books Classroom Management and Positive Behavior Support (2nd edition; Routledge) and Adults with Autism Spectrum Disorders, Evidence-Based and Promising Practices (Guildford Press).  Assent Article & Upcoming Book Tincani, M., & Brodhead, M. T. (in press). Assent and applied behavior analysis. In J. Ferguson, J. Leaf, M. Saunders, & J. Cihon (Eds.), Clinical handbook of ABA interventions for autistic learners: Research, training, and practice. Springer Publications. Read the Preprint on OSF: https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/fku5s_v2 Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/school/temple-university-college-of-education-and-human-development/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-tincani-21a85426 https://www.facebook.com/templecehd/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/416297638831183/ https://www.facebook.com/PhillyMetroABA/ https://www.instagram.com/templecehd/?hl=en AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  7. Sep 18

    S4 E1: Creating the Conditions for Growth | 4 Leadership Lessons from Viola Davis’s Finding Me

    What can Viola Davis’s Finding Me teach us about leadership? In this Season 4 premiere of Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers, Dr. Esther C. Bubb explores four leadership lessons inspired by Davis’s memoir and examines them through a behavioral lens. This isn't a book review. It's a reflection on becoming. Dr. Bubb explores why leaders must examine their own behavioral histories, why we should never confuse someone's current behavior with their future potential, why people need opportunities to discover and use their voices, and how leaders can transform struggle into wisdom that benefits others. Drawing from her own experiences—from discovering applied behavior analysis to finding her voice growing up in Grenada and learning difficult lessons through professional experiences—Dr. Bubb connects these ideas to a central leadership philosophy: People can grow to more than they know. The question for leaders isn't merely, "How do I change this person?" Rather, it is: "What conditions might help this person discover what they are capable of becoming?" In this episode, you'll discover how a behavioral lens can move leadership beyond judgment and toward curiosity, understanding, opportunity, and growth. Inside this episode: • Four leadership lessons from Finding Me • Why self-awareness is a leadership responsibility • How leaders can avoid confusing current behavior with future potential • Why psychological safety matters when developing people's voices • How difficult experiences can become leadership wisdom • The power of changing conditions rather than simply trying to change people • A practical Monday Morning Move you can use immediately Listen, reflect, and consider: What possibility in the person you lead have you not yet unlocked? About Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, a behavior analyst and educational leader who explores leadership, behavior, dignity, organizational culture, and systems change. Leadership grounded in behavior. Guided by dignity. Designed for change. Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. About the Host Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, LBS, BCBA Dr. Esther C. Bubb is a behavior analyst, executive educational leader, leadership consultant, author, and podcast host who helps leaders, educators, and organizations create the conditions for growth. Her work bridges behavioral science, leadership, organizational culture, and systems change, equipping people and teams to achieve meaningful, sustainable outcomes. With more than two decades of experience spanning early intervention, special education, clinical services, higher education, and organizational leadership, Dr. Bubb is known for translating complex behavioral science into practical strategies that strengthen leadership, improve organizational culture, and drive lasting change. She believes great leadership is the intentional design of environments where people are most likely to learn, contribute, and thrive. Dr. Bubb currently serves as Supervisor of Early Childhood Programs, overseeing Preschool Early Intervention, Head Start, and Pre-K Counts initiatives. Her leadership experience also includes roles as an Early Intervention Program Supervisor, Coordinator of Student Services and Behavioral Supports, and Director of Children’s Clinical Services, giving her deep expertise in systems leadership, team development, and organizational effectiveness. As Founder and CEO of Esther C. Bubb ABA Services, Dr. Bubb partners with leaders, schools, and organizations to strengthen leadership capacity, build high-performing cultures, and implement evidence-based strategies that create sustainable growth. Her consulting and coaching emphasize ethical leadership, dignity-centered practice, staff, and caregiver empowerment, and navigating organizational change with intention. A sought-after speaker, educator, and trainer, Dr. Bubb specializes in leadership development, behavioral science, applied behavior analysis, and organizational culture. She is the host of the Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers podcast and author of the Behaviorally Speaking: Insights for Change Makers blog, where she explores leadership, dignity-centered ABA, caregiver support, professional resilience, and the application of behavioral science to real-world challenges. Dr. Bubb holds a Doctor of Education (EdD) in Special Education, an MBA, Pennsylvania Principal PK–12 Certification, educational leadership credentials, and is enrolled in advanced superintendent studies. She is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Specialist (LBS), and certified educational leader. Known for her engaging, practical, and compassionate approach, Dr. Bubb inspires leaders to move beyond managing people to creating the conditions where individuals, teams, and organizations can thrive. AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

  8. Sep 11

    S3 E10: Leadership Legacy in Motion | What Grenada’s Young Leaders Teach Us About Excellence

    What does Grenadian excellence look like, and what kind of legacy are today's young leaders building for tomorrow? In the final episode of the Young Leaders of Grenada: Rooted in Culture. Rising in Leadership. Ready to Lead four-part virtual youth panel series, Dr. Esther Bubb brings together five emerging Grenadian leaders for a timely conversation about leadership, resilience, service, excellence, opportunity, and legacy. Timara Bubb, Brandon Felix, Paul McBurnie, Peter McBurnie, and Lily Welsh reflect on the Grenadian leaders who have influenced their journeys and the behaviors they hope to carry forward. They share personal stories about people who believed in them, challenges that pushed them beyond what they thought was possible, and the experiences that helped shape who they are becoming. The conversation explores what makes Grenadian leadership distinctive, including resilience, community-mindedness, humility, warmth, and a willingness to serve others. The panelists also discuss the importance of continuous learning, rest, mentorship, self-awareness, integrity, the legacy they are building now, and creating opportunities for young people to step into leadership. From empowering young people to have a voice, to serving others, to leaving every place better than they found it, this episode reminds us that leadership is about what we do, how we treat people, and what becomes possible for others because we chose to lead. 🎙️ Listen to the final episode of Young Leaders of Grenada and hear directly from five young Grenadians who are already shaping what comes next. Leadership grounded in behavior, guided by dignity, and designed for change. ----more----Connect with Dr. Esther Bubb If you're passionate about leadership, behavior science, education, and creating cultures where people flourish, you're in the right place. Because leadership isn't about changing people—it's about creating the conditions where people discover what's possible. Subscribe to Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change-Makers for conversations that bridge behavior analysis, leadership, education, and organizational change. If you enjoyed this episode: ⭐ Follow the podcast ⭐ Leave a rating and review ⭐ Share this episode with a colleague, supervisor, educator, or fellow leader ⭐ Visit Esther C. Bubb ABA Services for additional leadership resources, training, and professional development opportunities 🌐 Esther C Bubb ABA Services: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com 📝 Behaviorally Speaking: Insight for Change Makers Blog: https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/blog Leadership is behavior. And behavior always tells a story. ----more----About Our Guests Timara Bubb I am Timara Bubb, a graduate from Physics at McMaster, specializing in Medical and Biological Physics. I am currently pursuing my master’s in medical physics and Radiobiology at Oxford. I have a strong passion for science education and work in various outreach roles focused on educational equity and supporting equity-deserving kids in science. In my free time, I enjoy reading, volunteering and taking nature walks. Brandon Felix Brandon Felix is a student at St. George’s University with a strong passion for leadership, faith, and youth development. He is deeply committed to mentoring and guiding young people, particularly within the communities of Hope, Marquis, and Mt. Fann. He currently serves as Youth President of the Marquis Pentecostal Church, where he leads youth initiatives, mentors young people, and creates spaces that encourage spiritual growth, discipline, and positive life choices. His leadership focuses on building a generation that is grounded in faith and empowered to make meaningful contributions to society. Brandon also serves as Treasurer for both the Marquis Pentecostal Church and the Northeastern Zone of the Pentecostal Assembly of the West Indies (PAWI), Grenada Youth Ministries, where he is responsible for financial oversight and accountability, as well as supporting the sustainability of youth programs and activities. In addition, he is a National Youth Ambassador, where he contributes to youth representation and remains engaged in national conversations surrounding youth development and community impact. Brandon is driven by a vision to use his leadership and influence to inspire change, strengthen communities, and empower the next generation. Paul McBurnie Paul McBurnie is an Attorney-at-Law at Ciboney Chambers, Grenada. He has been admitted to practice law in Grenada and the Republic of Trinidad & Tobago and specializes in Litigation & Dispute Resolution as well as Conveyancing, Wills, Trusts & Succession, having recently assumed the role of Interim Head of the firm’s Conveyancing and Succession Department. Mr. McBurnie has appeared before the High Court and Court of Appeal in matters concerning contractual disputes, contentious probate, labor & employment, real property and public law. In his free time, Mr. McBurnie enjoys hiking, swimming, singing and photography. Peter McBurnie I am an adaptable and versatile individual with an academic background in Economics and International Business. Detail-oriented and dependable, I engage effectively with people across time zones and cultures, both independently and collaboratively.  I bring initiative, a broad perspective, and a strong sense of professionalism to every environment I join. Lily Welsh My name is Lily Welsh, and I am a passionate young professional from St. Mark, Grenada, dedicated to youth development, leadership, and community empowerment. I currently work as a Cybersecurity Officer within the Division of ICT in the Office of the Prime Minister, where I contribute to strengthening digital security and innovation. Beyond my professional role, I am actively involved in youth advocacy and national development through organizations such as the National Youth Ambassador Corps, Youth Parliament, and community initiatives. I am passionate about creating opportunities for young people, inspiring positive change, and using my voice to represent the needs of my generation. I am also someone who values growth, resilience, and service, and I believe in leading with purpose while making a meaningful impact wherever I serve. ----more---- AI Info This episode description was written with the assistance of AI.

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Behaviorally Speaking: Leadership for Change Makers is a weekly podcast where leadership meets behavior science, and where educators, clinicians, and humans grow. Hosted by Dr. Esther C. Bubb, EdD, BCBA, LBS, each Friday, the podcast brings dynamic conversations, lived experiences, and behavior-based leadership discussions from diverse guests. These episodes are designed to help you connect theory to practice, hear how leadership unfolds in complex systems, and consider how behavior is shaped, supported, and sustained in authentic contexts. As part of the Behaviorally Speaking Leadership Lab, a weekly leadership lab where change makers learn, test, and apply behavior-based strategies for real-world impact, Dr. Bubb invites you to listen actively, learn from lived expertise, and expand how you lead through connection and understanding. For more knowledge and learning, visit https://esthercbubbabaservices.com/.