From Top Gun to CEO: Leadership Lessons from Rolland “RC” Thompson What does it take to remain undaunted through combat missions, leadership crises, entrepreneurial setbacks—and even quadruple bypass surgery? In this episode of Be Undaunted, Tara Collingwood and George Dom sit down with Rolland “RC” Thompson, founder and CEO of Tactical Air Support and a former Navy fighter pilot, Top Gun instructor and commanding officer, and air wing commander. RC’s extraordinary career began when he became an Army helicopter pilot at just 19 years old. He later transitioned to the Navy, flew strike fighters from aircraft carriers, attended Top Gun and returned as an instructor, commanded an F-18 squadron, and eventually returned to Top Gun as its commanding officer. His final operational tour included leading some of the first strike missions into Afghanistan following 9/11. But this conversation goes far beyond fighter jets. RC shares the leadership lessons he learned when the stakes were literally life and death—and how he later applied those lessons to building Tactical Air Support from an idea in an MBA class into a thriving company employing hundreds of people, many of them veterans. One of his most powerful lessons came early in his career: live in the minute. Instead of carrying yesterday’s mistakes or worrying about tomorrow’s outcome, RC learned to focus on what needed to be done right now. Decades later, that philosophy remains at the heart of what it means to him to live undaunted. The conversation also explores the difference between courage and recklessness. RC describes leadership as creating “guardrails” rather than rigid lanes—giving people enough freedom to think, take ownership, solve problems, and seize opportunities without crossing the boundaries that keep the organization safe. When RC became a squadron commander, a serious aircraft accident taught him another unforgettable lesson: the leader is the culture. In moments of uncertainty, people look to the leader to determine how they should respond. Culture isn't simply something an organization talks about; leaders shape it through their actions, expectations, decisions, and example. RC carried that philosophy into Tactical Air Support, where he focused on three things people need to thrive: connection, purpose, and growth. His experience reinforced something many organizations overlook: people don't simply leave jobs—they often leave bosses. Developing leaders, therefore, isn't optional. It's fundamental to creating a high-trust, high-performing culture. RC also shares the unlikely story behind starting TAC Air—and the fortune cookie that arrived just when he was ready to quit: “The temptation to quit is strongest just before success.” The following week, the company landed its first contract. Perhaps one of the biggest themes of the conversation is RC's approach to adversity. He doesn't categorize information as good news or bad news. It's simply news. The question is what you do with it. That mindset was tested personally when RC—despite being extremely fit and competing in CrossFit—learned he had four major coronary blockages and needed quadruple bypass surgery. The experience reinforced his belief that while we can't control everything that happens to us, we can control the mindset and actions we bring to what happens next. And RC leaves us with a challenge: Comfort and routine can become some of the biggest impediments to success and a good life. Push yourself. Stretch yourself. Get uncomfortable. Because ultimately, being undaunted isn't about knowing everything will work out. It's about doing everything you can today—and then detaching yourself from the outcome. In This Episode How RC became an Army helicopter pilot at just 19What Top Gun is really like compared with the moviesWhy preparation and repetition create excellenceThe difference between courage and recklessnessWhy great leaders give people guardrails instead of lanesThe moment RC realized, “You are the culture”Why high-performing organizations need connection, purpose, and growthWhy organizations should focus on getting the best out of people—not simply hiring “the best”How strong teams can outperform more talented individualsThe unlikely MBA assignment that became Tactical Air SupportThe fortune cookie that convinced RC not to quitHow to see opportunity inside adversityWhy RC refuses to label information “good news” or “bad news”How quadruple bypass surgery challenged his ideas about controlThe difference between a victim mindset and a hero mindsetRC’s emotional story of carrying a flag recovered from the World Trade Center into combat over AfghanistanWhy living in the present is central to becoming undauntedHow comfort and routine can quietly hold us backKey Takeaways Live in the minute.Don't let yesterday's mistakes or tomorrow's uncertainty steal your ability to execute today. Create guardrails, not lanes.Give people room to think, act, and take ownership while making the boundaries clear. The leader is the culture.Especially during difficult moments, people watch the leader to understand how they should respond. Don't just hire the best—get the best out of who you hire.Great leadership develops people rather than simply collecting talent. Adversity contains opportunity.When circumstances change, change the way you look at them. Mindset drives the fight.We can't control everything that happens, but we can choose the mindset we bring to it. Detach from the result.Do everything you can with the moment in front of you, then let go of the outcome. Get uncomfortable.Growth rarely happens when we stay inside the comfort and routine of what we already know. Memorable Quotes “I don't give them lanes in the road. I give them guardrails.” “You are the culture.” “We don't want to hire the best. We want to get the best out of who we hire.” “If you don't like the way things look, change the way you look at things.” “We're not allowed to say good or bad news in this company. It's news.” “Life isn't about discovery...it's about creation.” “You've got to detach yourself from the result.” “Comfort and routine are the biggest impediment to success in a good life.” The Undaunted Takeaway RC's career has taken him from Army helicopters to Navy fighter jets, Top Gun, combat operations, entrepreneurship, business leadership, and a life-threatening health crisis. Through all of it, one philosophy has remained remarkably consistent: Prepare relentlessly. Lead with trust. Stay in the present. Control what you can. Let go of what you can't. And keep moving forward—undaunted. Rolland "RC" Thompson Tactical Air Support High Trust Leadership by George Dom https://www.georgedom.com/book More about George Dom: https://www.georgedom.com/ More about Tara Collingwood: https://www.dietdiva.net/ Follow the show: Apple Podcasts • Spotify • YouTube Be Undaunted is produced by JAG Podcast Productions: www.jagpodcastproductions.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.