Done By Thursday

Stephen Bradley

Done By Thursday is a practical show for visionaries, operators, owners, pastors, and leaders who shoulder responsibility. Every week, we break down the systems, decisions, and mindsets that move real organizations forward — whether you’re running a business, leading a church, scaling a nonprofit, or building something new from scratch. Expect honest conversations, clear frameworks, and actionable steps you can use right away. The goal is simple: help leaders get unstuck, stay grounded, and move their mission forward — all before Thursday hits.

Episodes

  1. Jul 29

    20-Year Pastor’s Warning: Lose Trust, Lose the Team

    How do great leaders build trust, develop healthy teams, and lead through uncertainty? Brad Jenkins shares practical church leadership principles for creating organizational unity, developing leaders, communicating vision, and making difficult decisions. He explains why many leaders approach trust the wrong way—and how consistency, stability, and conviction build a culture people want to remain part of. Brad is the lead pastor of Anthem Church in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. After planting a church with 23 people in 2006, he led it through a pastoral succession and church merger. Nearly 20 years later, many of the leaders who joined him during that transition are still serving alongside him. He explains: ◼ Why healthy teams sometimes begin by choosing to trust ◼ How consistent leadership creates stability and unity ◼ Why capable people need room to fail ◼ How to take risks without becoming reckless ◼ How to identify leaders before they receive a title ◼ The difference between a dreamer and a visionary CHAPTERS [00:00] The Role of a Leader [00:16] Meet Brad Jenkins [01:20] Church Planting, Succession and Merger [05:08] Building Trust During Change [08:27] Creating a Healthy Team Culture [12:28] Should Leaders Trust but Verify? [15:55] How Consistency Creates Unity [19:26] Communicating Vision [22:59] Leading Through Adversity [26:20] Financial Uncertainty and Risk [29:27] Conviction Must Match the Risk [35:39] Before Taking a Leap of Faith [38:07] Dreamers vs. Visionaries [40:05] How to Identify Great Leaders [47:14] You Don’t Need a Title to Lead [52:21] Retaining Great People [54:30] Leading Toward a Brighter Future BRAD JENKINS https://bradjenkins.me/ https://instagram.com/pastorbradjenkins https://youtube.com/@PastorBradJenkins ANTHEM CHURCH https://weareanthem.church/ https://instagram.com/weareanthemchurch https://youtube.com/c/anthemchurchonline DONE BY THURSDAY https://austerom.com/dbt STEPHEN BRADLEY https://stephenbradley.co https://instagram.com/stephenabradley SAMUEL GREER https://instagram.com/sammo_ AUSTEROM https://austerom.com https://instagram.com/austerom_

  2. Apr 3

    Church Creative Is Broken: Creative Director explains why and how to fix it

    Most churches don’t lack heart. They lack execution. Creativity in the church often looks good on the surface — strong visuals, passionate teams, meaningful messages. But behind the scenes, there’s often a disconnect: Between what’s being created… and what’s actually reaching people. In this conversation, Stephen Bradley and Samuel Greer sit down with Creative Director Jacob Hayes to unpack what’s really happening inside church creative teams. Not a talent issue. Not a passion issue. But a growing gap between communication, clarity, and execution. They explore why some of the most meaningful content never lands, why churches struggle to communicate outside their own context, and how creatives and pastors can actually work together to reach people more effectively. THEY DISCUSS:◼️ Why great church content often doesn’t reach people ◼️ The tension between art and communication in ministry ◼️ Why what you think will work… usually doesn’t ◼️ The disconnect between church language and real-world understanding ◼️ Why sermon series marketing often fails ◼️ How creatives and pastors build (or break) trust ◼️ The difference between expression and execution ◼️ Why most church teams stay stuck in reactive work ◼️ How to create content that actually connects This isn’t a conversation about making church “cool.” It’s about closing the gap between intention and impact. ABOUT OUR GUESTJacob Hayes is a Creative Director leading teams in church production, design, and communication. He helps bridge the gap between message and execution — building systems that allow creativity to actually serve the mission. Connect with Jacob: ◼️ Instagram - @jabconworks ◼️ Website - jabconworks.com If you’re leading a church, creative team, or organization — and feel like your message isn’t landing the way it should — this episode will help you see why. CHAPTERS00:00 Intro 01:00 Why Good Messages Don’t Land 04:30 From Ministry to Creative Leadership 08:30 Calling vs Career in Ministry 11:00 Ministry Beyond the Stage 13:30 The Church & Real Life Disconnect 16:00 The Role of Art in the Church 18:30 Why Your Best Content Doesn’t Perform 21:00 Leading Creatives Inside the Church 24:00 Why What You Think Will Work… Doesn’t 27:30 Faith, Culture, and Creative Expression 30:00 Why Context Matters in Communication 32:30 The Biggest Messaging Mistake Churches Make 35:00 Promotion vs Experience 37:30 Why Sermon Series Marketing Fails 39:30 How to Actually Reach People 41:30 Trust Between Pastors and Creatives 44:00 Advice for Pastors 46:00 Advice for Creatives 48:00 Why Most Teams Stay Stuck 50:00 Building a Healthy Creative Culture 52:30 Final Thoughts on Creativity & Execution DONE BY THURSDAY◼️ Subscribe for conversations leaders can actually act on ◼️ Produced by AUSTEROM — partnering with founders, pastors, executives, and organizations to bring clarity, structure, and direction ◼️ Get updates & resources: https://austerom.com/dbt/subscribe ◼️ Follow Stephen Bradley: https://austerom.com/stephen-bradley

  3. Jan 28

    Church Marketing Expert: Why Bad Marketing Is Killing Fundraising

    WHY BAD MARKETING IS KILLING CHURCH FUNDRAISINGChurch giving rarely collapses overnight. It erodes quietly — through unclear messaging, disconnected systems, missed follow-up, and the assumption that good intentions alone will sustain generosity. In this conversation, Stephen Bradley, Samuel Greer, and church marketing expert Chandler Boyce unpack what’s actually undermining church fundraising today. Not greed. Not lack of faith. But misalignment between mission, marketing, and stewardship. They explore how many churches unintentionally make generosity harder — not because they don’t care, but because they’ve never been taught how marketing, trust, and giving actually work together. They discuss:◼️ Why bad marketing quietly kills fundraising ◼️ How good intentions fail without clear systems ◼️ The difference between branding, marketing, and manipulation ◼️ Why trying to reach everyone often leads to reaching no one ◼️ How clarity builds trust — and trust fuels generosity ◼️ Why churches confuse faithfulness with inefficiency ◼️ The unseen cost of poor follow-up and disconnected systems ◼️ How stewardship requires structure, not just sincerity This isn’t a conversation about hype or church growth tactics. It’s about building systems that support generosity instead of sabotaging it. About Our GuestChandler Boyce helps churches and faith-based organizations clarify their message, strengthen their marketing, and steward generosity with integrity. ◼️ Marketing Co-Op: http://Marketingco-op.co ◼️ Local Church Media: http://Localchurchmedia.com If you’re leading a church, nonprofit, or faith-based organization — and giving feels inconsistent, unclear, or heavier than it should — this episode will put language to what you’ve been experiencing. CHAPTERS00:00 Intro 01:05 Why Fundraising Fails Quietly 05:20 How Bad Marketing Undermines Giving 10:15 Branding Isn’t Your Logo 15:30 Trying to Reach Everyone Misses the Mission 21:10 Why Clarity Builds Trust 26:45 When Good Intentions Aren’t Enough 32:30 Stewardship vs Manipulation 38:10 The Cost of Poor Follow-Up 43:55 How Marketing Shapes Generosity 49:20 What Healthy Church Marketing Looks Like 55:10 Practical Shifts Churches Can Make Now 01:00:40 Final Thoughts on Clarity and Stewardship DONE BY THURSDAY◼️ Subscribe for conversations leaders can actually act on ◼️ Produced by AUSTEROM — partnering with founders, pastors, executives, and organizations to bring clarity, structure, and direction ◼️ Get updates & resources: https://austerom.com/dbt/subscribe ◼️ Follow Stephen Bradley: https://austerom.com/stephen-bradley

  4. Jan 15

    Church Leadership: A Slow Collapse

    Church Leadership: A Slow CollapseChurch leadership rarely collapses in public. It happens slowly — through exhaustion, misaligned systems, ignored warning signs, and the quiet pressure to carry more than one person ever should. In this conversation, Stephen Bradley and Samuel unpack what’s actually breaking church leaders today. Not scandals. Not incompetence. But the steady erosion of capacity, trust, and clarity. They explain: ◼️ Why confusing “church” with institution quietly damages leaders ◼️ How criticism without context fractures trust and culture ◼️ The burnout signals most leaders ignore until it’s too late ◼️ Why leadership failure is usually a capacity problem, not a skill problem ◼️ How metrics without morality hollow out mission ◼️ The difference between discipline, control, and care ◼️ Why vulnerability builds trust faster than authority This isn’t a conversation about doing more. It’s about recognizing what leadership was never meant to carry alone. If you’re leading a church, nonprofit, business, or team — and you feel the weight building quietly — this episode will put language to what you’ve been experiencing. CHAPTERS00:00 Intro 00:00 The Slow Collapse Nobody Notices 05:45 When “Church” Becomes a System, Not a Body 12:10 Criticism Without Context 19:30 Assuming Bad Intent Is a Leadership Failure 28:11 Capacity Is the Real Limiting Factor 33:40 The Burnout Signals Leaders Ignore 36:55 You Can’t Lead Everyone the Same Way 41:50 Doing Work Only the Leader Should Do 46:30 Work-Life Balance Is the Wrong Question 50:10 Discipline Without Care Creates Resentment 55:47 When Metrics Replace Morality 59:40 Losing Trust Is the Point of No Return 01:01:00 Vulnerability Builds What Control Can’t 01:06:40 A Healthy Leader Outlasts a Talented One DONE BY THURSDAY◼️ Subscribe for conversations leaders can actually act on ◼️ Produced by AUSTEROM — partnering with founders, pastors, executives, and organizations to bring clarity, structure, and direction ◼️ Get updates & resources: https://austerom.com/dbt/subscribe ◼️ Follow Stephen Bradley: https://austerom.com/stephen-bradley

  5. 12/31/2025

    US Army Sergeant: If You Can’t Carry This, Don’t Lead

    If you can’t carry this, don’t lead. U.S. Army Sergeant Jon Tozzi breaks down the real cost of leadership — accountability, discipline, grief, family strain, and the weight most people are never prepared to carry. Jon Tozzi is an active-duty U.S. Army infantry leader whose career spans combat arms, recruiting, and frontline leadership. In this conversation, he shares what leadership looks like when there’s no off switch, no applause, and real consequences for failure. This episode isn’t about confidence or charisma. It’s about capacity. Jon explains: ◼️ Why leadership isn’t about authority — it’s about accountability ◼️ The myth of work-life balance when responsibility is real ◼️ Why standards without care destroy culture ◼️ How grief, loss, and failure shape better leaders ◼️ Why quotas and numbers quietly undermine integrity ◼️ The difference between discipline and control ◼️ What young leaders must understand before they’re in charge Whether you lead a business, a church, a nonprofit, a team, or a family — this conversation will force you to ask a hard question: Are you actually prepared to carry what leadership demands? ⏱️ Chapters00:00 Intro 05:05 Why Leadership Is Heavier Than You Think 11:58 Responsibility, Family, and the Cost of Command 19:05 Learning Leadership the Hard Way 24:22 Accountability Beyond Punishment 33:19 Quotas, Morality, and Culture 39:11 Vulnerability, Trust, and Loss 46:25 Leading Without an Off Switch 53:11 Failure, Discipline, and Self-Awareness 57:32 Advice for Young Leaders Follow Jon Tozzi:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/the_tozzinator Done By Thursday:◼️ Subscribe for conversations leaders can actually act on ◼️ Produced by AUSTEROM — partnering with founders, executives, pastors, and organizations to bring clarity, structure, and direction ◼️ Get updates & resources: https://austerom.com/dbt/subscribe ◼️ Follow Stephen Bradley: https://austerom.com/stephen-bradley

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Done By Thursday is a practical show for visionaries, operators, owners, pastors, and leaders who shoulder responsibility. Every week, we break down the systems, decisions, and mindsets that move real organizations forward — whether you’re running a business, leading a church, scaling a nonprofit, or building something new from scratch. Expect honest conversations, clear frameworks, and actionable steps you can use right away. The goal is simple: help leaders get unstuck, stay grounded, and move their mission forward — all before Thursday hits.