Learning off the Syllabus

Farnaz Karimian

Learning off the Syllabus is a podcast that steps into the real stories that shape language teaching and learning. Hosted and created by Toronto-based language educator and curriculum designer, Farnaz Karimian, each episode dives into conversations with teachers, students, leaders and thinkers to explore what teaching and learning actually feel like in an ever-evolving landscape. If you’ve ever felt the gap between policy and practice, care and control, or ideals and reality, you’re in the right place! Let's go off the syllabus, where the real learning unfolds!

  1. 7h ago

    S2. Ep. 6: Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales: The Art of Correction

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Dr. ⁠Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales ⁠and Farnaz have a conversation about how teachers' experiences as language learners can shape the way they teach. Drawing on Maria’s own journey across languages and cultures, they talk about accents, confidence, identity, and the ways other people’s responses can influence how comfortable learners might feel using a language. From there, they turn to corrective feedback and consider how teachers can support learning without turning mistakes into a source of anxiety or self-doubt. They also get into AI, mindfulness, and the role of the teacher in creating classrooms where students feel both challenged and supported. Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales is a professor and the chair of the TESL program at Université du Québec en Abitibi-Témiscamingue. She is a member of ⁠Concordia University⁠’s Centre for the Study of Learning and Performance, a collaborator with the McGill Mindfulness Research Lab, and the vice president of the Canadian Association of Applied Linguistics. Her research interests focus on instructed L2 acquisition, with an emphasis on corrective feedback. Her recent work includes a project examining how mindfulness meditation practice mediates language anxiety and behavioral engagement with written corrective feedback among ESL students. She is also investigating the role of ChatGPT in facilitating the provision of written corrective feedback in French as a second and foreign language settings. Maria's Publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Maria-Lourdes-Lira-Gonzales https://marialiragonzales.wixsite.com/main ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. Ep. 6: Dr. Maria-Lourdes Lira-Gonzales: The Art of Correction
  2. Jul 9

    S2. E3 - Dr. Rebecca Schmor: Language is a Resource, Not a Deficit.

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Farnaz and Rebecca Schmor (PhD, Language and Literacies Education) talk about what it means to embrace plurilingualism in English language education. They get into the relationship between language and identity, examine why English-only policies continue to persist in many institutions, and discuss how these beliefs influence both teaching and learning. The conversation encourages educators to reconsider long-held assumptions and reflect on how they can create learning environments that value the full range of their learners' linguistic resources.Dr. Rebecca Schmor is an academic coach and editor who supports graduate students and early career researchers in the humanities and social sciences disciplines. She has taught English, Spanish, and German in several countries including Canada, China, and Cuba. She currently lives in Mexico with her husband and daughter.  Rebecca's website: https://www.rebeccaschmor.com/ Resources mentioned in⁠⁠⁠⁠ the episode:Schmor, R., Jones, S., & Noel, K. (2023). Microaggressions to microaffirmations: A trioethnography of plurilingual EAP instructors. Journal of English for Academic Purposes, 64, 101270.Schmor, R., & Piccardo, E. (2024). Supporting language rights: plurilingual pedagogies as an impetus for linguistic and cultural inclusion. Human Rights Education Review, 7(1), 72-102.Schmor, R. (2024). Adopting a plurilingual attitude: A reimagining of linguistic and cultural identity. In Autoethnographies of Plurilingualism (pp. 19-26). Routledge.Schmor, R., Araki, Y., Santoyo, S., & Gao, X. (n.d.). “Understanding is a shared responsibility”: The impact of plurilingual teaching practices from the perspective of three English language learners [Unpublished manuscript]. ⁠learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E3 - Dr. Rebecca Schmor: Language is a Resource, Not a Deficit.
  3. Jun 25

    S2. E2 - Vanessa Nino: Avoid, Adapt, or Adopt? The AI Dilemma!

    In this segment of Teacher Real Talk, Farnaz and Vanessa (MA, English Literature) have an open conversation about what it means to support student learning in the GenAI era. They unpack the shift from resistance to adaptation in educational spaces and the challenges of assessing student work in meaningful ways. They also reflect on how AI is reshaping writing support services, with students both relying on and bypassing human tutoring in different ways. The episode surfaces deeper questions about what we value in student writing, and how educators might rethink their approaches without losing sight of learning itself. Vanessa Nino is an educator and instructional designer specializing in English language teaching, academic writing, and adult learning. She has taught English for Academic Purposes (EAP) and communications at Sheridan College and Humber College as well as ESL at Acheve's LINC Home Study, supporting multilingual learners in developing general English, academic literacy and professional communication skills. Earlier in her career, she contributed to the TESL community as Communications Officer for TESL Toronto and supported social media engagement for TESL Ontario. She currently leads the English and Writing Tutoring team at Sheridan College’s Library and Learning Services, where she advances inclusive, student-centred writing support through innovative practice and Universal Design for Learning (UDL). Literature mentioned in⁠⁠ the episode: The Em Dash Dilemma: How a Punctuation Mark Became AI’s Stubborn Signature Saunders, G. L., & Boldt, N. (2026). Avoid, Adopt, Adapt: Positions on GenAI in Canadian Writing Centres. Discourse and Writing/Rédactologie, 35, 156–184. https://doi.org/10.31468/dwr.1139 learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com⁠ Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E2 - Vanessa Nino: Avoid, Adapt, or Adopt? The AI Dilemma!
  4. Jun 11

    S2. E1 - Dr. Francesca Boschetti: The Tie and the Pin

    In this segment of From the Director’s Chair, Farnaz has an insightful conversation with Francesca Boschetti⁠⁠ (PhD, English) about what it means to lead in a profession where perceptions of credibility and authority are often influenced by factors beyond expertise. They explore how assumptions about age and gender can shape professional experiences, leadership journeys, and the ways individuals are seen and heard within institutions. Additionally, drawing from her own journey as a multilingual learner and educator, Francesca shares how navigating new educational systems has influenced the way she approaches leadership, student support, and other professional relationships. Dr. Francesca Boschetti is the Associate Director at York University’s School of Continuing Studies, where she oversees language programs and operations. With extensive leadership experience in language education, internationalization, career development, and student services, she has worked across post-secondary institutions in Canada, designing and managing programs that support diverse learner communities. An Italian-Canadian educator, Certified Gallup Strengths Coach, and firm believer in the power of good food to bring people together, Francesca is passionate about adult learning, strengths-based leadership, and building collaborative environments where individuals and teams can thrive.Literature mentioned in the episode: Sieghart, M. A. (2021). The Authority Gap: Why women are still taken less seriously than men, and what we can do about it. Random House.Mercer, S., Gregersen, T., Thompson, A.S. and Yim, S.Y. (2026), It's Not You, It's the System: Women Professors in TESOL and the Persistence of Gender Bias. TESOL J. https://lnkd.in/gjhrfGpRRashed, D. (2024). "Chapter 1 Female Leadership Identity in English Language Teaching: Autoethnographies of Global Perspectives – Framing the Conversation". In Female Leadership Identity in English Language Teaching. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://lnkd.in/gKNNwRE9learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S2. E1 - Dr. Francesca Boschetti: The Tie and the Pin
  5. May 28 ·  Bonus

    Minisode: Stories from the TESL Community

    In this special minisode of Learning Off the Syllabus, marking the end of Season 1 (yay!), Farnaz is joined by longtime friend, former colleague, and instructional designer ⁠Ela Kaca, as they read through and react to stories sent in by members of the TESL community; laughing at the funny ones, reflecting on the heavier ones, and sharing some of their own experiences along the way. Together, they talk through things like students feeling insecure about their accents, when classroom learning finally clicks in the real world, the importance of building genuine relationships with learners, setting expectations, and the very real feeling of (literally) being lost. Ela Kaca is an Instructional Designer who loves making learning feel clear, supportive, and meaningful — never overwhelming. Her work blends visual communication, accessibility, and experience design to create learning that feels effortless for the learner and intentional behind the scenes. She has 10+ years of experience in education, digital learning, and curriculum design, and is always exploring new ways to turn ideas into engaging, learner-centered experiences. ESL= English as a Second Language LINC: Language Instruction for Newcomers to Canada CLB= Canadian Language Benchmarks learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    Minisode: Stories from the TESL Community
  6. May 14

    S1. E10 - Graham Lean: Pedagogy & Precarity & Power, Oh My!

    In this segment of Let's Talk Design, Farnaz and Graham (MEd, Digitally-Mediated Adult Learning) have a wide-ranging conversation about teaching, assessment, and what it means to work inside systems that don’t always prioritize learning (that's right, we said it!). Discussing Graham's chapter on "The New Colonization of Educational Lifeworlds", they unpack how institutional pressures actually shape what happens in ESL, EAP, and Communications classrooms. They also talk about life as college contract faculty, the (absence of) pedagogical culture in some educational institutions, and how precarity affects everything from curriculum design to teachers’ willingness to speak up. The conversation also turns personal: teaching as identity, what it feels like to be pushed out of systems you’ve given years to, and why, despite everything, walking away from education isn’t always possible. Graham Lean is an adult literacy educator based in Ottawa, Canada, and is interested in how learning processes are controlled, directed and manipulated at all levels of education and educational research, from the classroom to the ivory tower! His most recent writing explores how the demands of education systems become separated from teaching and learning, and the impact that separation has on how educators teach and students learn. Through his writing, he is trying to push back against the bastardization of teaching and learning in education systems. Graham's Writing: Substack: https://unknowndistance.substack.com/Research Gate profile: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Graham_Lean2Underground Theory Vol2Literature mentioned in the episode: Rhoades, G. (2003). Democracy and Capitalism, Academic Style: Governance in Contemporary Higher Education. ResearchGate. Retrieved 18 August 2025, from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234588921_Democracy_and_Capitalism_Academic_Style_Governance_in_Contemporary_Higher_Education Slaughter, S., & Leslie, L. (2003). Academic Capitalism: Politics, Policies, and the Entrepreneurial University. Http://Lst-Iiep.Iiep-Unesco.Org/Cgi-Bin/Wwwi32.Exe/[In=epidoc1.in]/?T2000=010922/(100).COMM= Communications (college-level writing courses) ESL= English as a Second Language EAP= English for Academic Purposes ⁠⁠⁠www.learningoffthesyllabus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @learningoffthesyllabus Email: ⁠learningoffthesyllabus@gmail.com Theme music: Periscope by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

    S1. E10 - Graham Lean: Pedagogy & Precarity & Power, Oh My!

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Learning off the Syllabus is a podcast that steps into the real stories that shape language teaching and learning. Hosted and created by Toronto-based language educator and curriculum designer, Farnaz Karimian, each episode dives into conversations with teachers, students, leaders and thinkers to explore what teaching and learning actually feel like in an ever-evolving landscape. If you’ve ever felt the gap between policy and practice, care and control, or ideals and reality, you’re in the right place! Let's go off the syllabus, where the real learning unfolds!