Leadership With a Twist

Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler

Where mindful leadership meets practical action... Empowering Leadership Teams' Podcast, Leadership With a Twist, features mother-daughter executive coaching team Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler sharing actionable leadership strategies, team empowerment tools, and mindful practices for today's leaders. Join them and guest experts to elevate your leadership skills and discover your authentic leadership potential.

  1. 2d ago

    Mastering Mindset: The Path to Thriving in Business

    Overwhelm rarely announces itself. It creeps in through the meeting that keeps repeating the same way, the fix that keeps resurfacing under a new name, the sense that you're pulling something off again without knowing how many more times you can pull it off. In this episode, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler name what they're seeing across their coaching work right now: leaders and teams sustaining the unsustainable, and the three very different paths available once you notice it. They break down the difference between surviving a hard season on hope alone, fixing it by patching the surface without touching the root, and leading the change by starting with your own mindset, intention, and self-awareness before you ask anything of your team. Barbara shares a coaching story about a client who spent a full day cold-calling volunteers, script after script, and caught herself getting cranky mid-call. She stopped. That small moment points to something much bigger about self-awareness as a leadership skill. If your team meetings keep happening and the real conversations keep happening after the meeting ends, this episode is for you. Key Takeaways Overwhelm is the feeling of powerlessness, and it doesn't hold still. Left unaddressed, it spirals into burnout, then breakdown. Surviving and fixing both keep you circling the same problem. Survival runs on hope that circumstances will change. Fixing patches the surface and moves the issue to a new spot. Leading the change starts with the leader, not the team. Mindset, intention, and self-awareness come first, in that order. Self-awareness means noticing your own limit before it shows up as irritability, shutdown, or a decision you'll regret. Action Steps Notice one place right now where you're sustaining something unsustainable. Name it out loud, even just to yourself. Before your next fix, ask whether you're solving the surface problem or the one underneath it. Take one small, honest risk this week — share the thought you'd normally keep to yourself, or change a habit that no longer serves you. Questions to Reflect On Where in your leadership are you surviving instead of leading? What problem have you fixed more than once because you never got underneath it? What would it look like to be more true to yourself in your next difficult conversation? Ready to talk through what leading the change looks like for you and your team? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather or Barbara:https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter:  https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Mastering Mindset: The Path to Thriving in Business
  2. Jul 22

    The Intuitive Leader: Harnessing Inner Wisdom for Innovation

    AI can gather your data and organize your options in seconds. It cannot tell you when something feels off. Coach Heather and Coach Barbara sit down for a conversation about inner wisdom, the intuition and gut instinct that partners with strategy and data, and why it belongs in your leadership decisions. They unpack why entrepreneurial teams build unsustainable habits under pressure, how a five-minute break restores more capacity than pushing through, and why modeling a gut check in a meeting gives your whole team permission to do the same. Key Takeaways Inner wisdom is a decision-making input, not a replacement for strategy or data. Unsustainable habits form when leaders make fast decisions under pressure, and those habits eventually lead to burnout. Modeling a gut check in team meetings builds psychological safety and stronger collaborative thinking. Intuition is a muscle. Skip practicing it and it weakens. AI is an intellect partner. It cannot sense when something is off in the room. Action Steps Before your next big decision, pause and check how it actually feels, not just what the data says. Model a gut check out loud in your next team meeting. Build a five-minute break into every two hours of focused work. Questions to Reflect On Am I factoring in my own capacity when I set deadlines, or am I just pushing through? Where has a fast decision under pressure become an unsustainable habit on my team? Do I trust myself enough to say out loud when something doesn't feel right? Want to talk through how inner wisdom shows up on your leadership team? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather and Barbara: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat   About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    The Intuitive Leader: Harnessing Inner Wisdom for Innovation
  3. Jul 15

    Leading Boldly: Harnessing Courageous Confidence

    Being nice is quietly weakening your leadership. In this episode, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler name a pattern they see constantly in coaching: leaders who soften their message, pull back after one rejection, or take on responsibility for how someone else feels about a hard decision. Heather and Barbara unpack the difference between courageous confidence and self-protection, why your job is to make sure your message is received, not to control the outcome, and how the best business decisions never come from an emotional rollercoaster. They walk through the pause as your first line of defense, the prep, action, results cycle every team needs to complete, and why letting people process their own emotions is a gift, not a withholding. Key Takeaways Courageous confidence means owning your perspective, your role, and your voice, even when the room stays quiet. Your responsibility ends at a message clearly sent and confirmed received. The decision on the other end is not yours to control. You are not responsible for another person's emotional regulation. Holding that line with compassion is what keeps your leadership steady. The best business decisions come from a grounded, prefrontal-cortex-online state, never from an emotional rollercoaster. Every business cycle, prep, action, results, needs to fully complete, including rest, before the next round of thinking begins. Action Steps Before your next high-stakes conversation, prepare your message so clearly that the other person has everything they need to decide. Confirm they understood you, then let the outcome be theirs. This week, notice one moment you start managing someone else's emotional reaction instead of standing in your own role. Name it, then return to the facts. Build a pause into your next tense moment, ten minutes, an hour, a day, before you respond. Use it to get grounded before you decide anything. Questions to Reflect On What would it look like if I led with more confidence this week? Where am I over-functioning for someone else's emotional experience instead of trusting them to manage it? Has my team fully completed the prep, action, results cycle, including rest, before we plan what comes next? Ready to apply this to your team? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather and Barbara on courageous confidence and self-leadership:https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat   About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Leading Boldly: Harnessing Courageous Confidence
  4. Jun 24

    Navigating the Human Element: Strategies for Sustainable Leadership

    Your team is not an infinite resource. Neither are you. In this episode of Leadership With a Twist, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler dig into the human element of leadership, the people, the time, and the knowledge that actually get the work done. They name why “this isn’t sustainable” has become background noise in so many businesses instead of a call to action, and what happens when teams keep sustaining the unsustainable for months at a time. Heather and Barbara walk through a real coaching conversation about urgency versus emergency, why entrepreneurial teams running lean absorb so much of that pressure, and why slowing down is often the smartest move when your plate is overflowing. They lay out a practical approach to pausing as a team, naming the new normal honestly, and building a collaborative path forward instead of waiting to be rescued. Key Takeaways Your team’s time, knowledge, and energy are limited resources. Plan around that reality instead of the wishlist version of your team. “This isn’t sustainable” is a signal, not a complaint. If you keep hearing it and nothing changes, you have a process problem, not a people problem. Urgency and emergency are not the same thing. Most overwhelmed teams have stopped telling the difference. Nobody understands your day to day better than you do, so nobody else is coming to name what is happening for you. A collaborative think tank conversation, with rest first, gives your team clarity that constant juggling never will. Action Steps Identify one task you have been holding “temporarily” for more than a month. Name it out loud to your team this week. Before your next planning meeting, ask each team member to bring three potential solutions, not just the problem. Use the Decision-Making Matrix to sort what is actually urgent from what only feels urgent because you are tired. DOWNLOAD THE DECISION MAKING MATRIX HERE Schedule real time off for your team this month. Rest before you reassess, not instead of it. Questions to Reflect On What have I been carrying for months that I labeled “temporary”? Where am I confusing urgency with emergency right now? Am I waiting for someone else to fix this, or am I willing to name it and bring solutions forward Want to talk through sustainable leadership and the human element for your team? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather and Barbara:https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat   About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Navigating the Human Element: Strategies for Sustainable Leadership
  5. Jun 17

    Breaking the Bottleneck: Empower Your Team to Make Confident Decisions

    Is your team holding decisions for you every time you step away? You come back from a day off and find a pile of 97%-done work just waiting on your sign-off. The frustration is real. And it is not a team failure. It is a development moment. In this episode of Leadership With a Twist, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler break down exactly what is happening when a capable, well-developed team still defers to their leader for decisions they already know how to make. This is one of the most common bottlenecks in growing organizations, and there is a clear path through it. Heather and Barbara cover the psychological safety piece that leaders often miss, the unconscious standard-setting that makes teams feel like nothing short of perfect is acceptable, and the decision-making meter that gives team members a concrete tool to move forward with confidence. They also talk about why what used to be a win (checking in before deciding) can quietly become the thing holding everyone back, and how to redefine what winning looks like at this next stage of development. If you are a leader who wants to stop being the bottleneck, or a team member who is ready to step into greater ownership, this episode is for you Key Takeaways A decision-making bottleneck is not a team failure. It is a signal that the team has grown and the definition of winning needs to be updated. Psychological safety is non-negotiable. If your team sees you react to mistakes, they will keep checking in no matter what you say out loud. High-achieving team members do not hold back because they are lazy. They hold back because they care about getting it right. The decision meter: if you have tapped every resource, checked past decisions, and land at 75% or higher confidence, move forward. Redefine winning together. What was the right behavior at one stage of development can become the block at the next. Delegation is a two-way street. Both the leader and the team member have a role in moving through this transition. Action Steps Audit your environment for psychological safety. Not what you say about mistakes, but what your team has seen happen after mistakes occur. Introduce the decision meter to your team. Define your organization's go threshold (75% is a strong starting point). Have the redefine-winning conversation. Explicitly name what great performance looks like at this stage, not the last one. Build this into onboarding from day one. Map the phases of development so no one is surprised when the handoff comes. If you are a team member, name it. Tell your leader you think you are ready to take ownership on a specific type of decision and ask for the green light. Questions to Reflect On When your team comes to you with a completed decision to approve, do you respond in a way that makes it safe to have gotten it wrong? Have you explicitly told your team what kinds of decisions they are now authorized to make without you, or are you expecting them to figure that out on their own? As a team member, do you know where your confidence threshold sits, and are you using the resources around you before checking in? Ready to apply this to your team? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather or Barbara and let's talk about breaking your team's decision-making bottleneck in your specific situation: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Breaking the Bottleneck: Empower Your Team to Make Confident Decisions
  6. Jun 10

    Lead With Purpose: Navigating Intention vs. Reaction

    Most leaders aren't failing because they lack skill or effort. They're failing to lead themselves first. In this episode of Leadership with a Twist, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler dig into the difference between moving through your week with intention versus reacting to whatever lands in front of you. This conversation is for high performers who are getting results but feel like they're running on fumes, for mid-level leaders stretched across too many priorities, and for entrepreneurial CEOs who know their team is capable of more but can't quite figure out why the week keeps running them instead of the other way around. Heather and Barbara break down why high performers struggle most with "good enough," how to define winning in your role before the week starts, and what it actually looks like to pace yourself with intention across a full work week. This is practical, grounded, and immediately actionable. Key Takeaways You are a limited resource. Four to five hours of truly focused, high-quality thinking per day is the realistic ceiling. Build your week around that reality. Reacting to volume is a habit. Recognizing when the work is driving you instead of the other way around is the first step to changing the pattern. High performers must redefine done. Good enough in the right context is not a compromise. It is strategy. Define winning before Monday. Starting the week with a clear picture of what successful completion looks like sets the tone for every decision that follows. Milestones matter. Celebrating incremental progress builds team culture and fuels sustainable performance. Self-leadership is team leadership. When you move through your week with greater intention, you model it for everyone around you. Action Steps On Monday morning, before anything else, review your calendar and project list and ask: what does winning look like in my role this week? Identify which projects need your highest-level output and which need to be done to "good enough." Name that distinction explicitly. Block time based on your energy. Schedule your deepest thinking work during your peak hours, and protect those blocks. At the end of each day, do a 3-minute check-in: how is my week tracking against my intention? When the week ends, name the wins out loud. To yourself and your team. Questions to Reflect On Are you leading your week or reacting to it? Where are you holding yourself to a standard that doesn't match what the project actually requires? What would change for your team if you started naming wins more consistently? Ready to work through this in your own leadership? Book a complimentary coffee chat with Heather or Barbara: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Need support implementing these ideas? Book a Coffee Chat: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Lead With Purpose: Navigating Intention vs. Reaction
  7. Jun 3

    The Leadership Wave: Mastering Change and Transition

    Change is the one constant in life — but that doesn't make it easy. In this episode of Leadership With a Twist, hosts Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler dig into why change feels so hard, how transitions actually work, and what leaders and professionals can do to navigate them with more clarity and confidence. Drawing on William Bridges' classic book Transitions: Making Sense of Life Changes, they unpack the difference between change (the situational event) and transition (the psychological process underneath it) — and why understanding that difference is a game-changer for anyone in the middle of a major shift. In this episode, you'll learn: Why humans are wired to resist change (and what your amygdala has to do with it) The three phases of transition: endings, the messy middle, and new beginnings How the "leadership wave" model helps you track where you are in a transition Why internal promotions often fail — and what leaders can do to fix it How to stop missing your own wins when you're deep in a change process Why support systems (coaches, mentors, friends) matter more than willpower during transitions Whether you're navigating a career shift, a promotion, a life change, or just the relentless pace of change in business today, this episode gives you a framework to stop white-knuckling through transitions and start working with them instead. Topics covered: change management, leadership transitions, personal development, organizational change, career growth, promotion coaching, business leadership, managing teams through change About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Need support implementing these ideas? Book a Coffee Chat: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    The Leadership Wave: Mastering Change and Transition
  8. May 27

    Proactivity in Communication: Building Trust and Efficiency

    Proactive communication builds trust by making sure people always know they'll be informed when it matters. Are you waiting to be asked — or are you leading the conversation? In this episode of Leadership With a Twist, Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler dig into one of the most powerful and often overlooked leadership communication skills: proactive communication. If your boss is coming to you for updates, you've already moved too slow. Heather and Barbara share practical, actionable guidance on how to get one step ahead — sharing information before it's asked for, closing the loop on delegated projects, and creating a communication rhythm that builds trust at every level of your organization.  In this episode you will learn: Why proactive communication is a trust-building superpower for leaders and team members alike How to distinguish between micromanaging and generously sharing resources How proactive updates protect your supervisor's credibility and set them up for success How to build update checkpoints into your delegation process to eliminate open loops How to co-create a communication rhythm with your supervisor that fits your current season Whether you're a senior leader, a team manager, or an individual contributor, this episode gives you a clear framework for becoming the kind of communicator people trust — without feeling like you're over-reporting or stepping on toes. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with a leader you believe in. 00:00 Welcome and Topic 00:40 One Step Ahead Updates 02:41 Sharing Down Builds Safety 03:58 Resources Not Afterthoughts 06:14 Close Loops With Delegation 08:12 Micromanaging Versus Support 13:56 Update Agreements and Cadence 16:27 Avoid Empty Reports 18:17 Key Takeaways and Coaching   About the Hosts: Coach Heather and Coach Barbara are the lead Executive Coaches of Empowering Leadership Teams. They specialize in helping entrepreneurial businesses and their teams meet the moment and become the most empowered they can be to work together and achieve optimal results. With deep expertise in leadership development, team dynamics, and navigating organizational transition, they bring practical, actionable wisdom to leaders facing the challenges of today's rapidly changing business environment. Need support implementing these ideas? Book a Coffee Chat: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/coffeechat Weekly Leadership With a Twist Newsletter: https://www.empoweringleadershipteams.com/huddle-subscribe Subscribe & Review: If you found value in this episode, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review. Your feedback helps us create content that serves entrepreneurial leaders like you, and it helps other leaders discover these conversations. Questions or topics you'd like us to address in future episodes? Send us a message at or leave a comment on our latest post. Cheering You On!

    Proactivity in Communication: Building Trust and Efficiency

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Where mindful leadership meets practical action... Empowering Leadership Teams' Podcast, Leadership With a Twist, features mother-daughter executive coaching team Heather McGonigal and Barbara Schindler sharing actionable leadership strategies, team empowerment tools, and mindful practices for today's leaders. Join them and guest experts to elevate your leadership skills and discover your authentic leadership potential.