Kind of Crushing It

Jessica McGovern & Natalie Milosevic

Kind of thriving. Kind of overwhelmed. Totally still trying. Welcome to Kind of Crushing It, the podcast for anyone who's ever wondered, "Is it just me?" Spoiler: it's not. Two friends and former corporate colleagues navigate career curveballs, bold moves, leadership lessons, and the stuff no one puts on LinkedIn. Whether you're just starting out or stuck in the messy middle of your career, this podcast helps you start (or restart) on the right foot. Tune in for the lessons they've learned the hard way, the questions they're still asking, and the laughs they need to keep going. They're not here to tell you to hustle harder, they're two, undercaffeinated, overstimulated, friends speaking their truth. It's honest. It's awkward. It's Kind of Crushing It.

  1. JAN 21

    Accidental Allies: Messy careers turned friendship (and then a podcast)

    Kind of on Purpose Series: A series about navigating the messy middle with a little more awareness, a little less panic, and a lot more alignment.   Join Jessica and Nat as they kick off the very first episode of Kind of Crushing It, the podcast where career wins, face plants, and everything in between get unpacked with honesty, humour, and a healthy dose of real talk.   In this episode, Jessica and Nat introduce themselves, share their journeys, and explain why they created this podcast. From navigating burnout and perfectionism to leaning into personal development, they explore the messy, relatable side of career growth and why it's okay not to have it all figured out.   They started this podcast to share real strategies, support others, and remind listeners that no one's journey is perfect. So whether you're starting out, burning out, or somewhere in the messy middle, this episode is a reminder that you're not alone, and that you can be crushing it, kind of, most of the time.   Grab a coffee, take a breath, and get ready for candid conversations about how to navigate your career and enjoy the journey along the way.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    9 min
  2. JAN 21

    Success, but make it yours.

    Kind of on Purpose Series: A series about navigating the messy middle with a little more awareness, a little less panic, and a lot more alignment.   Join Jessica and Nat as they dive into how their definition of success has changed over time. From chasing promotions and perfection to finding fulfilment, balance, and purpose. It's honest, funny, and maybe a little too relatable for anyone who's ever wondered, "Wait… is this what I actually want?"   In this episode, they share personal reflections on career pivots, burnout, and learning to measure success on their own terms rather than someone else's checklist. With a mix of humour and reflection, they explore how ambition evolves, and why it's okay to outgrow old versions of yourself.   You'll hear about: 1️⃣ How success can look different at each stage of life and career 2️⃣ Letting go of perfectionism and choosing alignment instead 3️⃣ Why fulfilment, not titles, might be the real marker of "making it"   This episode is a reminder that success isn't a finish line or a promotion title, it's something you get to define and redefine as your life changes. Whether you're questioning what you're working towards or quietly craving something different, this conversation invites you to pause, reflect, and decide what success actually feels like for you.   So grab your drink of choice and join us as we rethink what it means to be kind of crushing it.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn.   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    28 min
  3. JAN 28

    Self-awareness. It's like therapy, but you don't have to pay

    Kind of on Purpose Series: Join Jessica and Nat as they unpack why self-awareness is the not-so-glamorous but absolutely foundational starting point for personal development, leadership, and navigating life without feeling constantly overwhelmed.   In this episode, they share the moments that first signalled something had to change, from sleepless nights and anxious spirals to tight shoulders and tense meetings, and how small practices like yoga, reflection, and mindset work became unexpected turning points.   Through laughter and honesty, they explore how awareness shows up in the body, why language shapes mindset, and how empathy and vulnerability can make us better leaders.   You'll hear about: 1️⃣ How burnout, anxiety, and stress are often signals, not failures, and what they're trying to tell you. 2️⃣ The link between mindset, body awareness, and emotional triggers, and why reactions are clues, not problems. 3️⃣ Why self-leadership is a prerequisite for leading others, and how self-awareness shows up in careers, parenting, and relationships.   This episode isn't about fixing yourself overnight. It's about pausing, noticing patterns, asking better questions, and realising you actually have more influence than you think.   So, grab a coffee and join us as we explore how self-awareness helps you navigate the messy middle, kind of crushing it, one honest reflection at a time.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    36 min
  4. FEB 4

    Life Plot Twist: Your Career Isn't Linear!

    Kind of on Purpose Series: Jessica and Nat are back with a conversation that challenges one of the biggest myths in career life: that your path needs to be straight, planned, and predictable.   In this episode, they unpack the twists, pivots, and detours that often shape the most meaningful careers, and how letting go of the "perfect plan" can open the door to opportunities you couldn't have planned for.   From career changes and sideways moves to unexpected breaks and moments of doubt, they share their personal stories and lessons learned from embracing the unknown.   It's an honest, funny, and surprisingly reassuring conversation for anyone who's ever looked around and thought, "Wait, how did I end up here?"   You'll hear about: 1️⃣ Learning to find value in detours, pauses, and pivots. 2️⃣ How transferable skills shape new opportunities. 3️⃣ The mindset shift from "setback" to "redirection".   If you've ever worried that your career doesn't follow the traditional path, this one's for you. Jessica and Nat remind us that growth rarely happens in straight lines, and that there's no "right timeline", just your own.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    36 min
  5. FEB 11

    Failure is feedback (but it still sucks in the moment)

    Kind of on Purpose Series: Jessica and Nat tackle one of the toughest parts of personal and professional growth, failure. From career missteps and awkward feedback moments to full-blown "I want to disappear" days, they unpack what it really means to fail forward and find lessons in the mess.   Through laughter and honesty, they explore why failure stings so much, how quickly our minds jump to catastrophe, and how perfectionism and comparison can turn one mistake into a full identity crisis. Because while failure might technically be "feedback," it still hurts in real time.   You'll hear about:   1️⃣ Why failure feels deeply personal (and how to separate it from your self-worth). 2️⃣ How perfectionism, imposter syndrome, and comparison keep us stuck. 3️⃣ How to reframe mistakes as feedback, build momentum, and keep going.   If you've ever replayed a mistake on loop, questioned whether you're cut out for it, or considered changing your name and moving to another country, this one's for you. Jessica and Nat remind us that failure doesn't define you, it's simply part of learning, growing, and figuring things out as you go.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    29 min
  6. 1D AGO

    Should I stay, should I go, or should I slide sideways

    Kind of on Purpose Series: Jessica and Nat dive into one of the biggest questions in any career: how do you know when it's time for a change? Whether it's staying put, making a sideways move, or walking away entirely, they explore the emotions, fears, and self-reflection that come with each choice.   In this honest and insightful episode, they share personal stories from their own "stay, go, and slide" moments, from losing motivation and questioning identity to rediscovering fulfilment and purpose. They talk about how hard it can be to separate logic from gut instinct, and why sometimes you don't need a perfect plan, just the self-awareness to admit something isn't working.   You'll hear about: 1️⃣ How to recognise when it's time to move on (and when it's not) 2️⃣ The power of self-awareness before making any big leap 3️⃣ Why your career path doesn't have to be logical to be right for you   If you've ever felt stuck, unsure, or restless in your role, this episode is your gentle nudge to pause, look inward, and give yourself time to work out what's right for you. Jessica and Nat remind us that no decision is wasted, each one teaches you something about who you are and what you truly want.   🌐 Connect with us: LinkedIn   Have topics you want us to cover? We'd love to hear from you! You can post right here or connect with us on LinkedIn   🩷 If you loved this episode, please hit subscribe and leave us a stellar review 🌟, it helps connect our like-minded community...kind of keeping us all in touch and sane.

    22 min

About

Kind of thriving. Kind of overwhelmed. Totally still trying. Welcome to Kind of Crushing It, the podcast for anyone who's ever wondered, "Is it just me?" Spoiler: it's not. Two friends and former corporate colleagues navigate career curveballs, bold moves, leadership lessons, and the stuff no one puts on LinkedIn. Whether you're just starting out or stuck in the messy middle of your career, this podcast helps you start (or restart) on the right foot. Tune in for the lessons they've learned the hard way, the questions they're still asking, and the laughs they need to keep going. They're not here to tell you to hustle harder, they're two, undercaffeinated, overstimulated, friends speaking their truth. It's honest. It's awkward. It's Kind of Crushing It.