The 2x2 Movement Podcast

Josh Raies

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Health & Fitness

The 2x2 Movement Podcast is a space for intentional growth—training the mind, body, and soul in pursuit of faithful, disciplined living. Through conversations and reflections, we explore what it looks like to live with purpose in the rhythms of everyday life.

Sep 25

Phil Claybrooke - Big Pharma, Bad Guts, and Borrowed Time

Phil Claybrooke has spent over ten years in emergency and ICU nursing and, for the past four years, has run his own integrative clinic in Midland, Texas, where he and his team see patients from three weeks old to their nineties. Phil walks through how a friend's offhand suggestion turned a high school science teacher into a nurse practitioner, why a six-year mentorship under two Hindu physicians eventually became his chance to share the gospel with them directly, and how the insurance system quietly pushes providers toward medication over root-cause care. The conversation moves from the practical to the theological — why Phil spent nearly three years unlearning protocols he'd trusted for a decade, how he explains the gut as "the second brain" to his patients, and two stories that make his case better than any statistic could: a woman taken off six antipsychotics after her gut was addressed, and a man whose five years of chronic diarrhea resolved in three months once someone finally tested for the cause. Phil closes with a line that reframes the whole conversation — you can be physically amazing and spiritually bedbound — a picture of what it actually means to steward a body you won't keep forever. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Prayer01:21 Phil's Backstory: From Underdog to Nurse Practitioner07:17 PA vs. NP: Clarifying the Difference09:22 Medical School's Gap in Nutrition Education15:26 Insurance, Big Pharma, and the System's Incentives21:45 Transitioning to His Own Clinic23:40 Mentorship, Humility, and Unlearning Protocols36:55 Inside Reboot Clinic: A Day-to-Day Look41:24 The Gut as the Second Brain46:52 Why Health Information Doesn't Change Behavior53:19 Stewardship of the Body vs. the Eternal Perspective59:06 Intentionality Over Perfection, and Closing Links: Reboot Clinic: https://rebootclinics.com/
Sep 3

Brian Lonergan - Pro Athletes, Women's Bible Studies and the Weight Room That Brought Them Together

Brian Lonergan has spent thirteen years building something almost no other church in the country has attempted — a full training ministry inside Northwest Bible Church in Dallas, where pro athletes, high schoolers, and retirees all train under the same roof, and the weight room doubles as a discipleship lounge. Brian walks through how a chance conversation turned into a church-funded facility, why the ministry runs on invitation instead of marketing, and how showing up consistently to train someone's body earns the credibility to speak into their spiritual life. The conversation moves from the practical to the theological — Paul's language of disciplining the body, the parallel tracks of physical and spiritual formation, and why the church's posture toward the body matters more than most are willing to say out loud. Brian also shares the story of Jerry, a retired staff member in his eighties still training so he can walk from village to village preaching the gospel in a country where it isn't welcome — a picture of what stewarding the body well can look like decades down the road. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Backstory01:20 The Two by Two Movement and Its Purpose02:15 Brian's Journey and Ministry Beginnings09:13 The Ministry's Impact on the Church Community16:03 Evangelism and Discipleship Through the Ministry28:41 Living Life Together and Discipleship34:52 The Intersection of Fitness and Discipleship39:22 The Theology and Philosophy of Exercise43:25 The Church's Message on Physical Fitness52:25 The Prescriptive and Descriptive Nature of Fitness Ministry
Aug 13

Dale Wallace - ChatGPT Dating Advice, Conflict, and the Christian Case for AI

Dale Wallace spent ten years as a college pastor before he stumbled into AI, and once he was in it, he couldn't unsee what his students were actually asking these tools. This conversation covers what a model actually is, why AI isn't neutral but formative, and the moment that led Dale to help build AskLYTE — an AI trained on Scripture and the local church instead of the whole internet. Josh and Dale also get into the real difference between a ChatGPT answer and a biblically-rooted one, why this moment is the easiest "zero to one" has ever been for builders, and the world problems Dale believes AI could help solve. They close on stewardship, mind and body rhythms in a season of young kids, and the two men Dale wants to see on the show next. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Dale Wallace01:28 Understanding Artificial Intelligence02:28 The Process of AI: Ingredients, Mixing, and Cake04:17 The Controversy and Fear Surrounding AI05:29 The Impact of AI on Society and Individuals07:08 The Moral Implications of AI28:35 The Use Cases of AI in Everyday Life29:57 The Dangers and Necessity of AI30:43 The Impact of AI on the Next Generation32:45 The Role of AI in Biblical Stewardship36:13 Differentiating Light from Other Models37:52 The Influence of AI on Decision Making42:41 Expanding Perceptions of AI Use Cases53:17 Stewardship of Mind, Body, and Soul RESOURCES: AskLYTE - https://asklyte.ai/
Jul 28

Jonnathan Menendez - Blended Families, Father Wounds, and the Word That Never Loses Its Flavor

Jonnathan Menéndez didn't ease into fatherhood — he married into it. When he and his wife came home from their wedding, he was suddenly a husband and a father to her eight-year-old daughter, with no runway to prepare and no manual to follow. Jonathan serves as groups minister at Josh's church in Dallas, and this year he founded Transformative Fatherhood, a venture built to help overwhelmed new dads move from identity crisis to clarity, confidence, and compassion. This conversation traces Jonathan's own story — a father who was physically present but emotionally and spiritually absent, the anger and need for approval that grew out of that absence, and the "two for one" transition into a blended family that forced him to learn fatherhood on the job. From there, Jonathan lays out the framework behind Transformative Fatherhood: Heal, Grow, Build — healing from the past, growing in present knowledge and skill, and building intentionally toward the family you want to become. Josh and Jonathan also get into the theology of work — why God is the first entrepreneur, why building something isn't in competition with ministry, and why this cultural moment offers a wider door into entrepreneurship than ever before. The conversation closes on secure attachment, generational cycles, and why Jonathan says Scripture is the one thing you can chew on for years and it never loses its flavor. Chapters 00:00 — A Minister Who Fell in Love with Entrepreneurship09:00 — The Identity Crisis Nobody Warns New Fathers About17:00 — Physically Present, Emotionally Absent: Naming Father Wounds27:03 — Heal, Grow, Build: The Transformative Fatherhood Framework32:32 — Nurture Isn't Just a Mother's Job35:36 — Why Fatherhood Without Vision Is a Guessing Game37:16 — Can Ministry and Business Live in the Same Calling?38:01 — Work as Worship: God, the First Entrepreneur41:20 — Why This Moment Is a Wide-Open Door for Builders44:19 — What a World Full of Transformative Fathers Looks Like50:28 — The Book That Never Loses Its FlavorResources Connect with Jonathan Menéndez Instagram: @transformativefatherhoodEmail: admin@transformativefatherhood.comhttps://stan.store/transformativefatherhoodScripture referenced Proverbs 29:18 — "Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint"2 Corinthians 1:3–4 — God as "the God of all comfort," who comforts us so we can comfort others
Jul 7

Chris Moles - Entitlement, the Abusive Heart, and What Jesus Actually Said About Power

Chris Moles is a pastor and biblical counselor who has spent over twenty years working inside batterer intervention programs alongside his vocational ministry. In this conversation, Chris defines domestic abuse, traces its root in pride and entitlement, and challenges the version of biblical manhood that rejects passivity only to embrace a different kind of harm. He walks through what Jesus actually modeled about power — not power over, but power under — and gives men a practical framework for examining their own hearts, confronting sin in others, and responding well when someone they love has been harmed. Chapters 0:00 — Introduction & Opening Prayer3:45 — The difference between a critical mind and a critical spirit — how Chris became teachable7:30 — What Chris actually does: defining domestic abuse and his work in batterer intervention13:00 — How a bivocational pastor from West Virginia ended up in criminal corrections19:30 — The double burden: pastoring a local church while working in dark places25:00 — How group facilitation, listening with an agenda, and slowing down shaped Chris as a shepherd31:00 — Aggression vs. passivity — and why rejecting one often means embracing the other37:30 — What happens in the heart of a man that leads him toward abuse — Luke 6, James 4, pride and entitlement44:00 — Power over vs. power under — the Jesus hermeneutic on headship and the cheerleader analogy51:30 — Josh's confession: the moment his own entitlement surfaced — and how close the root really is55:00 — The one-in-four statistic: domestic abuse in the church58:00 — What good men who aren't abusing should do about it — preaching the gospel to yourself and Galatians 6 confrontation1:03:00 — How to be good and angry: the Ephesians 4 framework1:08:00 — A case study: how to approach a friend you suspect is harming his family1:15:00 — How Chris gets filled back up: one verse, memorized, no exegesis1:20:00 — 2x2 Shout Out: Greg Wilson Resources The Heart of Domestic Abuse: Gospel Solutions for Men Who Use Control and Violence in the Home — Chris Moles — amazon.com/dp/1936141272The Path to Peace: A 90-Day Journey from Control to Christ-Like Love — Chris Moles — amazon.com/dp/B0GPSRXRD2When Home Hurts: A Guide for Responding Wisely to Domestic Abuse in Your Church — Jeremy Pierre & Greg Wilson — amazon.com/dp/1527107221Caring for Families Caught in Domestic Abuse: A Guide toward Protection, Refuge, and Hope — edited by Chris Moles — newgrowthpress.comBecoming a Church that Cares Well for the Abused — Chris Moles, contributor — churchcares.comMen of Peace Self-Paced Course — menofpeace.orgPeaceWorks University — chrismoles.org
Jun 21

Billy Raies - Fatherhood, the Fear of Man, and Living the Text

Pastor Billy Raies has been in the same pulpit in Midland, Texas for thirty-three years. He still gets up at four in the morning on Sundays — not because he's disciplined, but because he knows how much he needs God to show up. In this Father's Day conversation with his son Josh, Billy talks about the weekly rhythm of pastoral ministry, how to engage Scripture vocationally without it becoming an assignment, the swan song moment that reoriented his vision for legacy, and what happens when you ask a waiter how you can pray for them. Honest, pastoral, and grounded in the gospel from start to finish. Chapters 00:00 Introduction — Father's Day on Location in Florida 02:07 What a Pastor's Sunday Morning Actually Looks Like 06:54 The Other Six Days — Weekly Rhythm of a Small-Church Pastor 11:53 Wearing Many Hats — The Reality of Small Church Ministry 15:13 Delegation, Identity Drift, and Raising Up Elders 19:45 The Swan Song — Building a Legacy You Won't See 24:10 How to Read Scripture Vocationally Without It Becoming an Assignment 29:00 Pastoring People vs. Programming Them 31:44 Gospel Fatherhood — Balancing Ministry and Family 35:36 Sacred Zeal and Not Being Slothful in the Gospel 37:29 Keeping Scripture on Your Lips All Week 42:18 Living the Gospel 24/7 — Not Just on Sundays 43:44 Asking Waiters How You Can Pray for Them 48:15 God Was Already in That Conversation 50:55 Confidence in Evangelism — God's MO Is to Shine Light 53:28 Romans 8:32 as the Evangelism and Discipleship Hinge 57:23 Closing — Honor Where It's Due Resources Brothers, We Are Not Professionals by John Piper — https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Not-Professionals-John-Piper/dp/1433552784Sacred Zeal by Jeff Purswell — https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Zeal-Jeff-Perswell/dp/1781919274What Is the Gospel? by Greg Gilbert — https://www.amazon.com/What-Gospel-Greg-Gilbert/dp/1433515002 Guest Links Sovereign Grace Church Midland — https://www.sovereigngracemidland.com
May 19

Pain Pt. 2 - Understanding, Managing, and Training Through Pain

Part two of our pain series is all application. In part one we built a theology of pain — what it is, where it comes from, and what God says about it. Now we answer the question every man actually wants answered: what do you do with it? In this episode Josh and Nick break down the difference between acute and chronic pain, walk through the RICE protocol and where it holds up and where it doesn't, and get into the nuance around NSAIDs — when they can be a legitimate tool and when they become a crutch. They also make the case for isometrics as one of the most underused tools in pain management and rehabilitation, and close with injury-specific protocols for the three areas most men are actually dealing with — shin splints, knee pain, and back pain. Nick is currently managing a herniated L5. Josh's seasonal allergies spike his knee. This isn't theory. Closes on Hebrews 12:1-4. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Pain and Its Definition 07:05 Understanding Types of Pain: Acute vs Chronic 17:02 Practical Approaches to Managing Acute Pain 25:11 The Role of Nutrition and Recovery in Pain Management 30:37 The Nuances of Pain Relief: NSAIDs and Their Impact 31:39 Understanding Pain and Healing 34:21 Training Around Injuries 40:36 The Power of Isometrics 44:39 Chronic Pain and the Nervous System 50:41 Practical Strategies for Common Injuries 56:18 Managing Back Pain Effectively 01:02:01 The Cost of Weakness and Building Resilience Resources Jake Tuura's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jaketuura?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
May 5

Ryan Enos - Prayer, Real Estate, and Rooted Living

In this episode, Ryan Enos shares insights on the current real estate market, faith-driven approaches to business, and practical spiritual disciplines like prayer and Bible reading. Discover how faith influences his work and life, and gain practical tips for integrating prayer into daily routines. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background in Real Estate 02:55 Current Real Estate Market Dynamics 06:11 Navigating Home Ownership Challenges 09:00 The Viability of Long-Term Mortgages 12:00 Faith and Financial Decisions in Home Buying 14:50 Investing in Community Through Home Ownership 17:59 Faith's Influence on Real Estate Practices 25:40 The Role of Trust in Client Relationships 29:10 Transformational Business Through Relationships 30:30 The Evolution of Prayer Life 39:11 Experiencing God's Presence in Prayer 41:16 Morning Rituals: A Quiet Time with God 45:15 Book Recommendations and Personal Growth 49:53 Encouragement for Busy Dads RESOURCES: Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830840094 Walking with God through the Bible - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1645070954 The Village Church (Matt Chandler) - https://www.thevillagechurch.net/ Ryan's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ryanaenos?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Enos Group Website - https://enos.homes/

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The 2x2 Movement Podcast is a space for intentional growth—training the mind, body, and soul in pursuit of faithful, disciplined living. Through conversations and reflections, we explore what it looks like to live with purpose in the rhythms of everyday life.

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Josh Raies
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2026
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17
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Clean
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