The Refit Podcast

Kyle Killian

Welcome to The Refit Podcast, hosted by Kyle Killian. This is where we talk about leadership the way leaders actually experience it—messy, uncertain, and nothing like the books make it sound. I'm Kyle Killian, founder of Kohora. I spent nearly three decades leading in military, corporate, and entrepreneurial environments—from intelligence missions in Iraq to senior roles at Nike, Converse, and Fanatics. And here's what I've learned: every single thing in business is a leadership problem.On this podcast, I sit down with CEOs, founders, operators, and fellow veterans who've transitioned to business leadership. We're not here to recite frameworks or share motivational quotes. We're here to talk about the hard thing about hard things—the decisions that didn't have a right answer, the conversations you couldn't avoid, and the moments that changed how you lead.If you've ever been in a situation where the playbook stopped working and you had to figure it out anyway, this podcast is for you.

  1. 3d ago

    SE01 E16 Future Aspirations in the Gig Economy: A New Perspective | Tom Gissler

    In this episode of the Refit Podcast, Kyle Killian speaks with Tom Gissler, Chief Executive Officer of Rolling Suds, about his unique journey in leadership and franchising. Tom shares insights on navigating career challenges, the importance of culture in leadership, and the dynamics of hiring for fit. He emphasizes the human element in business and discusses the challenges of scaling founder-led businesses. The conversation highlights the need for accountability and the delicate balance of leadership, especially when transitioning from a founder's vision to a structured operation. In this conversation, Tom Gissler shares his insights on leadership, the challenges of isolation, and the sacrifices made for work. He reflects on the importance of balancing professional responsibilities with personal life, emphasizing the need for strong communication and boundaries in leadership roles. Tom also discusses his future aspirations in the evolving gig economy and offers valuable lessons for new leaders stepping into established organizations. Takeaways Tom Gissler emphasizes the importance of learning from mistakes in leadership.Building consensus is crucial for effective leadership and decision-making.Franchising provides a pathway for entrepreneurship with support and lower barriers.The human element in business is essential for navigating challenges and building culture.Hiring should focus on both skill set and cultural fit to ensure long-term success.Accountability is a key component of a winning team and culture.Scaling a founder-led business requires understanding the existing dynamics and staff relationships.Leaders must be willing to let go and trust their teams to drive the business forward.The balance between financial goals and human considerations is critical in business.Navigating the complexities of leadership involves managing expectations and relationships. Leadership requires navigating changes and managing founder dynamics.Isolation is a significant cost of leadership roles.Personal relationships can complicate accountability in the workplace.Sacrifices for work can lead to regret and missed family moments.Prioritizing family and personal life is essential for overall well-being.The gig economy is changing traditional career paths and expectations.Good communication and clear boundaries are vital for effective leadership.Empathy and servant leadership can lead to better organizational outcomes.Investing in family culture is as important as professional culture.Future leadership roles may involve more flexible, gig-based opportunities. Connect with Tom Gissler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-gissler-5a05a62b/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E16 Future Aspirations in the Gig Economy: A New Perspective | Tom Gissler

  2. Jul 14

    SE01 E15 Balancing Legacy and Change in Business | Joseph Pehanick

    In this conversation, Kyle Killian interviews Joseph Pehanick, the president and Chief Executive Officer of East Bay Tire Company, discussing his journey through the family business, leadership challenges, and the impact of COVID-19 on operations. Joe shares insights on earning trust, the importance of culture, and the balance between legacy and change in a family-owned business. He reflects on the evolution of his leadership style, the significance of accountability, and the principles that guide decision-making during crises. In this conversation, Joseph Pehanick shares insights on leadership, personal struggles, and the importance of purpose in work. He discusses the emotional challenges faced by employees during tough times and how work can serve as an outlet. Joseph emphasizes the need for a long-term strategy in business and the impact of the book 'Extreme Ownership' on his leadership style. He reflects on his personal growth through education and the future vision for East Bay Tire, focusing on diversification and innovation. The conversation concludes with advice for aspiring leaders and the importance of simplicity in life. Takeaways Earning trust in a family business requires consistent effort.Leadership is about serving the team, not just personal goals.Culture drives performance and team dynamics.Navigating change while respecting legacy is crucial.Crisis management reveals the true character of a leader.Accountability within teams fosters a high-performance environment.Personal understanding of team members is vital during tough times.Making tough decisions often requires a clear set of principles.The best leaders adapt their mindset continuously.Communication is key to maintaining team morale and performance. Work can be an emotional outlet for many.Everyone deserves a sense of purpose in their work.Leadership is about understanding personal struggles.Building a long-term strategy is essential for success.Extreme Ownership is crucial for effective leadership.Education can provide valuable perspectives and growth.Future business initiatives should focus on diversification.Aspiring leaders should expect challenges and be prepared to be humbled.Simplicity is key in both leadership and personal life.Connecting with others and building relationships is vital. Connect with Joseph - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joepehanick/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly. – Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E15 Balancing Legacy and Change in Business | Joseph Pehanick

  3. Jul 7

    SE01 E14 Finding Fulfilment Beyond Financial Success | Jonny Price

    In this conversation, Jonny Price, President, Banter of WeFunder, shares his journey from management consulting to the nonprofit sector and eventually to his current role at WeFunder. He discusses the challenges and rewards of transitioning to nonprofit work, the importance of personal fulfillment over financial gain, and the lessons learned from adversity. Jonny reflects on the strengths and limitations of the nonprofit model and how WeFunder addresses these challenges. He emphasizes the significance of optimism and support from loved ones during difficult times. In this conversation, Jonny from WeFunder discusses the mission of the company to defend capitalism by making investment opportunities accessible to a broader audience. He explains the evolution of investment laws, the challenges faced in capital raising, and the misconceptions founders have about the timing and approach to raising capital. Jonny emphasizes the importance of retail investor participation and shares personal reflections on life and career choices. Takeaways Jonny Price is the President of WeFunder, a crowdfunding platform.He transitioned from management consulting to nonprofit work at Kiva.The decision to join Kiva involved a significant pay cut.Jonny's experience in Zambia influenced his career choices.He values personal fulfillment over financial gain.The nonprofit sector faces challenges in attracting talent due to compensation.Jonny's wife has supported him through career transitions.He believes in the importance of optimism during tough times.Lessons from personal experiences shape his perspective on life.Adversity can lead to positive outcomes in both personal and professional life. WeFunder operates as a Public Benefit Corporation, prioritizing mission over shareholder value.Capitalism needs adjustments to benefit a larger portion of the population.The Securities Act of the 1930s limited investment opportunities to accredited investors.The Jobs Act of 2012 allowed non-accredited investors to participate in startup funding.Founders often seek capital too early instead of focusing on product-market fit.Investor psychology plays a crucial role in fundraising success.Raising capital from a position of strength is more effective.Retail investors should have a share in the wealth created by startups.Personal reflections on family time and career focus are important.The future of investing includes more community involvement in funding. Connect with Jonny : https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyprice/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E14 Finding Fulfilment Beyond Financial Success | Jonny Price

  4. Apr 28

    SE01 E13 From Road Support to Leadership: Dana’s Insights | Dana McFletcher-Hubbard

    In this episode of the Refit podcast, Kyle Killian interviews Dana McFletcher-Hubbard, Chief Revenue Officer of TTN Fleet Solutions. Dana shares her journey in the trucking industry, starting from her early days in emergency road service to her current leadership role. She discusses the influence of her family, particularly her grandparents, on her values of service and empathy. Dana recounts the challenges she faced when her previous company closed unexpectedly and how her faith and commitment to her team guided her through the transition to TTN. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of understanding diverse perspectives and supporting others in their professional growth. In this conversation, Kyle Killian and Dana McFletcher-Hubbard discuss the critical role of honest feedback in leadership, the challenges faced during crises, and the necessary adaptations in leadership styles for remote work environments. They emphasize the importance of maintaining communication, building credibility, and creating a supportive culture to ensure employee engagement and retention. In this conversation, Dana McFletcher-Hubbard shares her insights on leadership, emphasizing the importance of quality over quantity in business operations, the necessity of empathy in leadership, and the challenges faced during organizational changes. She reflects on her personal growth and the lessons learned throughout her career, advocating for a hands-on approach to leadership and the importance of maintaining integrity and transparency in business practices. Takeaways Dana's journey began in emergency road service during college.Her family background instilled values of service and empathy.She emphasizes the importance of understanding diverse perspectives.Dana's experience in sales and collections shaped her resilience.The closure of her previous company was unexpected and challenging.She prioritized her team's well-being during the transition.Dana's faith played a crucial role in her coping strategy.She recognized the need for change in her new role at TTN.Her leadership style is influenced by her upbringing and experiences.Dana believes in supporting others in their professional growth. Honesty in feedback is crucial for leadership effectiveness.Softening messages can lead to long-term issues in business.Leaders must prioritize the well-being of their employees.High turnover can result from poor leadership practices.Building credibility is essential for effective communication.Navigating crises requires adaptability and quick decision-making.Remote work presents unique challenges for team dynamics.Maintaining communication is key in a virtual environment.Leadership styles must evolve with changing work conditions.Creating a supportive culture is vital for employee retention. It's important to connect the dots on business goals.Quality should take precedence over quantity in operations.Leadership decisions should prioritize experience and empathy.Maintaining integrity and transparency is crucial in business.Adapting to change requires a hands-on approach from leaders.Never dim your light; authenticity is key.Continuous learning is essential in a rapidly changing environment.Empathy is vital in understanding the full circumstances of business operations.Building relationships and trust is critical during tough times.Strategic alliances can enhance business growth and opportunities. Connect with Dana: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-mcfletcher-hubbard-9708135/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E13 From Road Support to Leadership: Dana’s Insights | Dana McFletcher-Hubbard

  5. Apr 21

    SE01 E12 Leadership Lessons from the Military to the Startup World | Robert Fabian

    In this episode of the Refit Podcast, Kyle Killian interviews Robert Fabian, COO of Vaya Space, who discusses the development of next-generation hybrid rocket engines for defense and space launch. Robert shares insights from his military background and how it informs his leadership style in a startup environment. He emphasizes the importance of safety culture, the challenges of transitioning from individual contributor to leader, and the critical nature of evaluating leadership fit within the organization as it scales. In this conversation, Robert Fabian discusses the evolution of his leadership style, emphasizing the importance of safety management, documentation, and fostering a collaborative work environment. He shares insights on ethical fundraising strategies for his company, Vaya Space, and reflects on the challenges of leadership in high-stakes environments. Additionally, he offers valuable advice for senior military officers transitioning to civilian life, highlighting the significance of knowing one's goals and leveraging professional networks. Takeaways Vaya Space is developing new hybrid rocket engines for commercial and defense applications.The transition to defense was driven by increasing demand signals from global conflicts.Robert's military experience shapes his leadership approach in a startup environment.Safety culture is paramount in the development of rocket engines.Mentoring in leadership requires effort from both mentor and mentee.Making tough decisions about team dynamics is essential for long-term success.Cultural fit is a critical component of the hiring process.Scaling leadership requires letting go of technical details.Every new hire impacts the organization's culture and performance.Robert emphasizes the importance of flexibility in work hours for team collaboration. Robert emphasizes the need for accountability without punishment in safety management.Documentation and discipline are crucial for young engineers to understand.Cultural reinforcement is essential for safety and risk elimination.Collaboration and spontaneous discussions enhance creativity and problem-solving.Ethical fundraising allows for gradual growth and proof of concept.Leadership in startups involves managing multiple responsibilities and risks.Support from family is vital during challenging entrepreneurial times.Transitioning military leaders should know their goals and leverage their networks.Asking for help is important in navigating career transitions.Creating a culture where all ideas are valued fosters innovation. To connect with Robert - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robfabian/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E12 Leadership Lessons from the Military to the Startup World | Robert Fabian

  6. Apr 14

    SE01 E11 The Journey of Innovation in Defense Technology | Joshua Knight

    In this conversation, Kyle Killian interviews Joshua Knight, co-founder and COO of Integer, a company focused on innovation in maritime defense technology. They discuss Knight's background, the challenges of entrepreneurship, the importance of family support, and the dynamics of scaling a business in a traditional industry. The conversation highlights the need for innovation in maritime defense, the risks associated with starting a business, and the critical role of communication and financial management in navigating challenges. In this conversation, Joshua Knight discusses the importance of breaking down long-term visions into actionable goals, especially as organizations grow. He emphasizes the challenges of communication and leadership in larger teams, the complexities of product development in the defense sector, and the significance of private equity partnerships. Knight also reflects on the necessity of maintaining personal relationships while pursuing business goals, highlighting the balance between professional ambitions and personal commitments. Takeaways Joshua Knight's passion for STEM and maritime technology drives his work.The journey to launching Integer began years before its official start.Understanding the Navy's contracting process was crucial for Integer's success.Family support played a significant role in Knight's entrepreneurial journey.Bootstrapping required careful cash management and prioritization of expenses.External market changes can introduce significant uncertainty for startups.Effective communication is essential as a business scales.Knight emphasizes the importance of understanding risks and having backup plans.The entrepreneurial operating system helped Integer navigate challenges.Maintaining a focus on people is vital for business sustainability. Vision is long-term but needs to be broken down into actionable goals.Communication becomes more complex as organizations grow.The Valley of Death represents the challenges in defense innovation.Private equity can provide necessary resources but requires cultural alignment.Building relationships is crucial for effective leadership.Intentionality in communication is key to avoid misunderstandings.Product development requires rigorous testing and validation.Investing in relationships should be a disciplined practice.Leadership is more about relationships than just skills.Balancing business goals with personal relationships is essential. To connect with Joshua - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-knight-69aa0b38/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E11 The Journey of Innovation in Defense Technology | Joshua Knight

  7. Mar 24

    SE01 E10 Leading Change in Legacy Organizations | Brendan O'Donnell

    In this conversation, Kyle Killian speaks with Brendan O'Donnell, CEO of Safe Food Alliance, about the challenges of leading change in a legacy organization. Brendan shares his background in agriculture and technology, the importance of trust and credibility in food safety, and the complexities of modernizing processes while managing a long-standing workforce. The discussion highlights the significance of effective communication, the role of leadership in fostering a shared vision, and the hurdles of technology adoption and employee engagement in a traditional setting. Takeaways: Brendan O'Donnell emphasizes the importance of trust and credibility in legacy organizations.Modernization efforts require a deep understanding of existing processes and personnel.Technology adoption can be met with resistance, especially in long-standing organizations.Effective communication of the vision is crucial for buy-in from employees.Data-driven decisions can significantly impact the future of the organization.The transition to new technology often requires more time than initially anticipated.People management is a significant challenge for new leaders in legacy organizations.Training and standardization are key to successful implementation of new systems.Leadership must address employee concerns about job security during transitions.Creating a culture of openness and transparency is essential for successful change management. To connect with Brendan O'Donnell - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanmodonnell/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E10 Leading Change in Legacy Organizations | Brendan O'Donnell

  8. Mar 17

    SE01 E09 From Soldier to Leader: A Journey | Sean Patton

    In this conversation, Kyle Killian and Sean Patton explore the complexities of leadership, identity, and the transition from military to civilian life. Sean shares his journey from a challenging upbringing to becoming a West Point graduate and Green Beret commander. They discuss the impact of 9/11 on military aspirations, the struggles of maintaining identity in high-pressure environments, and the lessons learned from Ranger School and Special Forces. Sean emphasizes the importance of simplicity in leadership, the need for a noble purpose, and the significance of community in overcoming personal crises. He offers valuable advice for veterans facing challenges in their transition to civilian life.  Takeaways  Leadership is about identity and transformation. Simplicity in leadership leads to better outcomes. The military environment provides a safety net for growth. Self-discipline is about valuing your time on earth. Community is essential for personal growth and recovery. Finding a noble purpose can drive motivation. Transitioning from military to business involves learning from failures. It's important to redefine your identity after leaving the military. Embrace the discomfort of change for personal growth. You have the power to choose how you respond to challenges.  To connect with Sean Patton - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanpattonpresents/ I hope you enjoyed this episode! Give it a like, share, and subscribe to not miss the content coming your way weekly.– Kyle and The Refit Podcast team Listen to The Refit Podcast on these podcast platforms:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rLQ7Qaj1lvLq5kjjkDgmFApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-refit-podcast/id1870231828Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f884c7b1-1ea6-4b18-ab2c-0e880dd08c02/the-refit-podcast #TheRefitPodcast #KyleKillian #Leadership #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessLeadership #VeteranLeadership #HardThingAboutHardThings #LeadershipDevelopment #Entrepreneurship #CEOInsights #FounderStories #OperationalLeadership The Refit Podcast is where real leadership happens—no platitudes, no polished corporate speak, just honest conversations about the hard decisions that keep leaders up at night. Hosted by Kyle Killian, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer with nearly 30 years of military, corporate, and entrepreneurial leadership experience, this podcast dives into the moments when the playbook stopped working and leaders had to figure it out anyway.

    SE01 E09 From Soldier to Leader: A Journey | Sean Patton
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Welcome to The Refit Podcast, hosted by Kyle Killian. This is where we talk about leadership the way leaders actually experience it—messy, uncertain, and nothing like the books make it sound. I'm Kyle Killian, founder of Kohora. I spent nearly three decades leading in military, corporate, and entrepreneurial environments—from intelligence missions in Iraq to senior roles at Nike, Converse, and Fanatics. And here's what I've learned: every single thing in business is a leadership problem.On this podcast, I sit down with CEOs, founders, operators, and fellow veterans who've transitioned to business leadership. We're not here to recite frameworks or share motivational quotes. We're here to talk about the hard thing about hard things—the decisions that didn't have a right answer, the conversations you couldn't avoid, and the moments that changed how you lead.If you've ever been in a situation where the playbook stopped working and you had to figure it out anyway, this podcast is for you.

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    Kyle Killian
  • Years Active
    2026
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