Just Like Nana

Amie Penny Sayler

Dive into the journey of Just Like Nana, a podcast passionately exploring ancestral trauma, generational healing, and the profound ways our family's past shapes our present mental and holistic health. Amie Penny Sayler shares captivating, research-based fiction stories of her grandmothers' lives and features insightful interviews with leading mental health and wellness practitioners.  Learn how to break cycles of trauma passed down through generations, understand family dynamics, and cultivate a regulated nervous system. Ground yourself in your history, honor your ancestors, and find your own path to trauma healing.  New episodes every Friday. Learn more at https://justlikenana.com/ 

  1. 6d ago

    Missy Toy Ozeas

    Energy healer Missy Toy Ozeas discusses how hidden, inherited patterns and ancestral trauma keep us trapped in survival mode, and how to identify subconscious blocks and unlock energetic sovereignty. About Missy Toy Ozeas Missy Toy Ozeas is an energy healer and intuitive guide. She helps accomplished, heart-centered leaders find and release the hidden beliefs keeping them from their full power. She’s led thousands of sessions with clients all over the world — Hollywood creatives, wellness entrepreneurs, musicians, activists, artists — and she specializes in one thing: finding the exact belief that's running the show beneath the surface, tracing it to its origin, and clearing it so everything downstream can shift. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Distinguish Mindset from Energy Problems: When you keep hitting a wall despite doing "all the right things," you are likely dealing with stored childhood or ancestral energy rather than a lack of strategy or effort.Trace Trapped Beliefs to the Lineage: Subconscious limiting beliefs—such as "having money isn't safe"—can originate from an ancestor's traumatic survival experience and are passed down through your family line.Perform Energetic Witnessing to Clear Blocks: Ancestors long to be seen and acknowledged; simply witnessing their original fear or story with compassion allows stored energy to balance and release.Cultivate Energetic Sovereignty: Sovereignty means taking radical personal responsibility for your own energy field—walking through the world with "nothing to defend and nothing to prove" while giving others 100% permission to be themselves.Engage Your Lineage Through Simple Intention: You do not need a complete family tree or historical records to connect with your lineage; taking an intentional walk and inviting your ancestors to join you moves energy immediately. Connect with Missy Toy Ozeas Website: https://www.missyenergyhealing.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/missyenergyhealing/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZpw2lIbdJzRlnhcsdWSK4w More information on The Clairs: https://innerspectrumhealing.com/blog/the-clairs-explained Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Missy Toy Ozeas
  2. Aug 14

    Dionne Ford

    Author Dionne Ford, discusses her memoir, Go Back and Get It.  She addresses the sacred value of the family archive, what it looks like to cultivate a daily ancestral practice, and the undeniable necessity of reparations to heal the wealth and education gaps woven into American society.   About Dionne Ford Dionne Ford is author of the memoir ‘Go Back and Get It’, which was a 2024 finalist for the Hurston Wright Foundation Legacy Award and co-editor of the anthology Slavery's Descendants: Shared Legacies of Race and Reconciliation. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Virginia Quarterly Review, LitHub, The Boston Globe, New Jersey Monthly, Rumpus and Ebony among other publications and won awards from the the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Association of Black Journalists and the Newswomen's Club of New York.  Most recently, she received a 2026 Individual Artist Finalist award from the New Jersey State Council on the Arts. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Reclaim Ownership of Your Family Archive: You do not need to wait for outside authorities or a formal stamp of approval to tell you who you are. Your family history and internal architecture carry a sacred authority that is contained within you.Value the Sacredness of Oral Storytelling: Long before documentation existed, human beings preserved their legacies through oral histories. Honoring the stories passed down by a grandparent—exactly as they were told—is a vital, non-negotiable step in intergenerational healing.Engage in Embodied Ancestral Connections: Connecting with your lineage can be a deeply visceral, physical experience. Cultivating mindful habits, creating a personal altar, or engaging in ancestral physical arts like Capoeira bridges generation gaps and embodies the strength of those who came before you.Commit to a Daily Relational Ritual: Staying connected to your ancestors doesn't have to be a rigid, distant concept. Implementing a simple morning devotional or checking in with your lineage throughout the day keeps their memory alive and treats them like a close, accessible friend.Acknowledge the Ripple Effect of Reparations: Reparations are a fully tangible, executable necessity to address systemic wealth gaps, property tax structures, and education inequities. Repairing a historical wrong does not just benefit the harmed party; it actively heals and elevates the justice of the entire society. Resources https://www.aamchealthjustice.org/news/research/reparationshttps://www.ivoryinnovations.org/post/reparationshttps://www.ywcastpaul.org/history-of-the-rondo-neighborhood/https://www.ictj.org/reparationshttps://www.tonimorrisonsociety.org/https://www.abada.org/capoeira-history/ Connect with Dionne Website: https://www.dionneford.com/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Dionne Ford
  3. Aug 7

    Amy Vincze

    Amy Vincze, EFT Tapping coach and creator of the Soar with Tapping app, discusses the benefits of an EFT Tapping practice and how it can help heal ancestral trauma. Amy also explains the importance of engaging with uncomfortable emotions, instead of always forcing a focus on the positive. About Amy Vincze Amy Vincze has been a dedicated professional in the health and wellness industry for over 20 years. She's a certified tapping coach and has been for more than 16 years. She has witnessed profound transformations both in her own life and in the lives of her clients as the founder of the Soar with Tapping App, Amy is on a mission to make the life-changing benefits of tapping accessible to everyone. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Target the Root Cause Over the Symptom: Treating symptoms like overeating or procrastination can be like placing a temporary band-aid over a gushing wound. True, permanent healing requires moving past surface symptoms and engaging directly with the originating core belief systems.Understand the 3-in-1 Power of EFT: Tapping combines physical percussion on ancient energy meridians (like acupuncture without needles) with cognitive reflection and deep somatic grounding to bring your mind (which often focuses on the past or the future) completely into a safe, present moment.Down-Regulate the Amygdala 43% Faster: When your subconscious tracks a perceived threat, your brain triggers a rapid surge of cortisol. Percussive tapping acts as a somatic override, signaling your inner guard dog to stand down and clearing stress hormones 43% faster than doing nothing at all.Access Ancestral Portals for Lineage Healing: Deep structural wounds—such as rigid, inherited programming about cultural expectations and gender roles—can visceralize in your body. Somatic tapping helps open an energetic portal to resolve these blocks, shifting the lineage pattern for yourself, your children, and the ancestors who came before you.Lean Intensely into Uncomfortable Emotions: You cannot bypass heavy states by rushing toward shiny, fake positivity. True emotional processing demands that you safely sit with emotions for roughly 90 seconds, acknowledging and feeling them until the intensity drops enough for your brain to accept a positive pivot. Resources What is EFT Tapping?: https://eftinternational.org/discover-eft-tapping/what-is-eft-tapping/ Connect with Amy Vincze Website: https://soarwithtapping.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soarwithtapping/ App on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soarwithtapping&pli=1 App on the App Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/soar-with-tapping/id6449354621 Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Amy Vincze
  4. Jul 31

    Elizabeth Rosner

    Author and teacher Elizabeth Rosner discusses the importance of naming and acknowledging intergenerational trauma before moving towards healing. Elizabeth touches on the cultural understanding of intergenerational trauma, the limitations of scientific understanding, the importance of personal and collective histories, and more. About Elizabeth Rosner Elizabeth Rosner is an author and teacher whose work focuses on the redemptive power of storytelling and deep listening. Her six books have been translated into twelve languages and have received literary prizes in the US and abroad. Her most recent book, Third Ear: Reflections on the Art and Science of Listening, blends personal stories of growing up in a multilingual household with multidisciplinary research about sound and silence in the natural world. Her previous book, Survivor Cafe: The Legacy of Trauma and the Labyrinth of Memory, was a finalist for a National Jewish Book Award and was named among the best books of 2017 by the San Francisco Chronicle. Elizabeth travels widely to lecture and lead workshops internationally; her teaching carries forward a message of perseverance and tenacious optimism. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Validate the Biological Reality of Transferred Trauma: Intergenerational trauma is a concrete transmission where an ancestral injury, atrocity, or structural attack creates psychological consequences and genetic adaptations passed down to children and grandchildren. Knowing this science validates that you are not crazy for carrying fear from events that occurred before you were born.Reclaim the Ancient Wisdom of Lineage: While Western science is just beginning to understand the explicit mechanisms of epigenetics, indigenous cultures have always held the ancient understanding that we must look backward seven generations and forward seven generations when navigating our life purpose and actions.Embrace the Power of Deep Naming: True emotional and ancestral transformation cannot happen if we rush past the pain to reach a forced state of healing. We must dedicate time, energy, and meticulous attention to looking at, acknowledging, and naming our personal and collective histories to break the grip of secrecy and denial.Uncover the Multi-Generational Gifts of Resilience: Your ancestral inheritance is not solely defined by anguish and trauma loops; it also carries beautiful, luminous gifts. Reclaiming your lineage means actively identifying and savoring the creative talents, love of beauty, multilingual voices, and fierce courage passed down by those who came before you.Exercise Your Sovereign Capacity to Change: Although we possess no control over the exact traumatic history or genetic blueprint we are given, we hold absolute sovereignty over what we choose to do with it. By practicing deep listening and meeting ourselves honestly, we can actively rewrite our biological programming and choose our own changes Resources Mentioned Elizabeth’s Books: https://elizabethrosner.com/books/Connect with Elizabeth Website: https://www.elizabethrosner.com/index.html Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elizrosner/ Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/61096.Elizabeth_Rosner Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Elizabeth Rosner
  5. Jul 24

    Dr. Jenn Veilleux

    Dr. Jenn Veilleux, clinical psychologist and professor of psychological science,  discusses the science of emotions. Learn why many of us are so fundamentally afraid of negative emotions, how contrast avoidance blocks us from joy, and a new framework to accurately interpret the hidden messages your body is trying to send you. About Dr. Jenn Veilleux Dr. Jenn Veilleux is a licensed clinical psychologist and a professor of psychological science at the University of Arkansas, where she specializes in emotions, emotion regulation, and personality. In addition to training graduate students in the art of psychotherapy, Dr. Veilleux operates a private practice helping adults and couples transform their relationships with their internal states. As a dedicated emotion scientist, she bridges strict empirical research with practical clinical application to help individuals understand their minds and bodies more gracefully. She is also the author of an upcoming book designed to clearly demystify the psychological science behind emotion regulation, which will be fully linked in our resources below.  In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Differentiate Emotions from Moods: Scientifically, emotions are intense, transient, wave-like states triggered by a specific event that have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Moods, by contrast, are longer-lasting, lower-intensity states that lack a target or explicit starting trigger.Receive Emotions as Vital Messages: Emotions are not random disturbances; they are functional communication tools designed to prepare your physical body for action, provide information about your social environment, and facilitate connection with others.Confront the Trap of Contrast Avoidance: Master suppressors often actively block intense positive emotions. This tendency is driven by a fear of the sudden emotional drop that might follow a peak experience, causing individuals to stay safely anchored in a low level of anxiety instead.Understand the Rebound Cost of Suppression: Pushing an emotional wave down doesn't make it disappear. Because emotions are determined to be received, hiding from them temporarily causes them to return with amplified intensity, much like the avalanche of letters invading Harry Potter's living room. Connect with Dr. Jenn Veilleux Website: https://www.jenncveilleux.com/ Book: https://www.jenncveilleux.com/book LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenn-veilleux-3270962a8 Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Dr. Jenn Veilleux
  6. Jul 17

    Lisa Lacy

    Lisa Lacy, author and trauma educator, explains the role of storytelling in healing and why self-trust is key to healing ancestral trauma. Explore why some healing modalities may work for you and others won't, and the importance of getting in touch with your body to feel safe and grounded. About Lisa Lisa Lacy is a writer, trauma educator, and author of the upcoming memoir “Notes From a Certified Madwoman” and its companion “Field Guide: The Psychology of Performance™️”. After more than three decades in corporate education, healthcare consulting, performance, and storytelling, Lisa now speaks and writes about addiction, psychosis, trauma, nervous systems, identity masking, reinvention, and the hidden realities of high functioning survival in women. Drawing from lived experience, recovery, and years teaching trauma-informed emotional intelligence in addiction recovery centers across Georgia, Lisa creates conversations that are psychologically informed without sounding clinical, emotionally honest, unexpectedly funny, and deeply human. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: You can physiologically inherit fear, anxiety, and behavioral patterns from your ancestral line without ever experiencing the original event yourself. Recognizing that what you are carrying isn't fully yours means you are not losing your mind—it is real science.Healing is not a one-size-fits-all journey. If traditional talk therapies leave you blaming yourself, expand your toolbox by exploring somatic work, hypnosis, cognitive processing, or peer support groups until you find what clicks for your unique design.Trauma survivors often dissociate, disconnecting completely from their physical bodies to survive. Ground yourself instantly by releasing a big sigh out—which safely down-regulates anxiety—and dropping into your chest space to find your heartbeat.Even if an ancestor passed away long before you were born, you can actively form a relationship with their memory. Channeling their history into purpose—such as transforming an ancestral story of abuse into community protection—honors their legacy and breaks the cycle.Forcing forgiveness can become a psychological trap. Opt instead for an objective human understanding of what limited tools your ancestors had, while taking radical accountability for your own behaviors and creating your own internal closure. Resources Mentioned It Didn’t Start with You by Mark Wolynn: https://markwolynn.com/it-didnt-start-with-you/Dolores Cannon: https://dolorescannon.com/Multipotentialite Ted Talk by Emilie Wapnik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZdcB6bjI8 Connect with Lisa Lacy Website: https://www.lisalacy.com/about-1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisalacycalm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisa_lacy_writes/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Lisa Lacy
  7. Jul 10

    Lolita Guarin

    Stress management coach Lolita Guarin discusses struggling with anxiety and self abandonment as an unintentional way to honor your ancestors' struggles and how to break your ‘loyalty’ to your family’s trauma patterns. About Lolita Guarin Lolita Guarin is a stress management expert, speaker, coach, six-time Amazon #1 bestselling author, creator of the CALM Process, and Story to IMPACT mentor. She helps audiences move from stress and burnout into clarity, confidence, and self-trust with practical tools they can use right away.  In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Understand that ancestral trauma is an inherited historical memory that converts into rigid behavioral patterns. Recognizing that your constant state of hyper-vigilance is an inherited default setting allows you to separate the trauma from who you truly are.By looking through a third-person lens rather than a wounded child's perspective, you can see how an ancestor’s inability to show love often stems from unresolved trauma in their own childhood.Many adults self-abandon and refuse to practice self-care because they unconsciously believe that suffering honors the sacrifices of their lineage. Stop bulldozing your own needs. Reclaim your personal sovereignty by practicing small boundaries, like pausing before saying "yes" to a demand, and actively celebrating your small daily victories to heal your inner child. Resources Mentioned Dr. Gabor Maté: https://drgabormate.com/ Connect with Lolita Lolita’s Website: https://www.beamazingyou.com/ Lolita’s Books: https://beamazingyou.lpages.co/get-the-books/ Book a Session: https://beamazingyou.lpages.co/book-a-session/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Lolita Guarin
  8. Jul 3

    Yildiz Sethi

    Yildiz Sethi, a psychotherapist, best-selling author, and founder of Emotional Mind Integration, challenges outmoded mental health models and explore the generational subconscious mind. Yildiz stresses the importance of addressing generational trauma and the potential for mental health recovery through neuroscience and epigenetics. About Yildiz Sethi Yildiz Sethi is a psychotherapist, author, and innovator in mind science, with over 25 years of experience helping people create deep, lasting change. She is the founder of Emotional Mind Integration, Rapid Core Healing, and PTIT Trauma Recovery, offering brief, powerful approaches to healing personal and generational trauma in just 1–4 sessions. Her work bridges neuroscience, consciousness, and spirituality, challenging outdated mental health models that focus on managing symptoms rather than resolving root causes. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Your struggles are split between your personal subconscious mind (repressed personal experiences) and your generational mind (the systemic patterns, anxieties, and relationship dynamics you carry from your family tree).Traditional talk therapy can flood your system by forcing you to relive painful memories. Rapid core healing uses resourced, distanced subconscious processing to release stored adrenaline safely and effectively within a session.Modern neuroscience tells us the brain can constantly rewire itself.  Resources Mentioned Crazy Normal for Better Mental Health and Wellbeing podcastLet's Take the Crap Out of Psychotherapy by Yildiz SethiConnect with Yildiz Website: https://yildizsethi.com/Books: https://yildizsethi.com/mind-and-trauma-healing-books/ Connect with the Show Website: justlikenana.comShare Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed.Connect with Just Like Nana's Website. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective. Theme music by Carter Penny.

    Yildiz Sethi
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Dive into the journey of Just Like Nana, a podcast passionately exploring ancestral trauma, generational healing, and the profound ways our family's past shapes our present mental and holistic health. Amie Penny Sayler shares captivating, research-based fiction stories of her grandmothers' lives and features insightful interviews with leading mental health and wellness practitioners.  Learn how to break cycles of trauma passed down through generations, understand family dynamics, and cultivate a regulated nervous system. Ground yourself in your history, honor your ancestors, and find your own path to trauma healing.  New episodes every Friday. Learn more at https://justlikenana.com/