The Quiet Revolution

brap and Joy Warmington
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The world feels louder and more divided than ever. In the face of resurfacing prejudice and public unrest, many organisations are retreating into silence, or worse, performance. But behind closed doors, a different kind of work is happening. The Quiet Revolution asks what happens when we stop performing anti-racism and start living it. Hosted by Joy Warmington (CEO, brap), this five-part series takes you inside the rooms where that shift is actually being led. From major NHS trusts to national charities, we follow the collisions, the resistance, and the breakthroughs that occur when anti-racism meets power. These are not polished PR stories; they are honest accounts of the human cost of change. This is not a podcast about quick fixes or "fixing people." Drawing on brap’s 25 years of practice, the series moves beyond toolkits to examine the quiet habits and everyday assumptions that keep inequality in place. It explores how we hold space for the uncomfortable and why real leadership is often about staying in the room when everyone else wants to leave. The Quiet Revolution is a limited series from brap, launching February 2026. Listen and subscribe to the series on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Find out more at brap.org.uk. Produced by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Season 1

  1. EPISODE 1

    The Illusion of Progress

    In this debut episode of The Quiet Revolution, host Joy Warmington sits down with brap colleagues Cheryl Garvey (brap Associate) and Lakshnie Hettihewa (Psychotherapeutic Lead) to ask a difficult question: Have we gone backwards? As racist rhetoric returns to public life and flags appear on our streets, they explore whether the last few decades of progress were real, or merely a veneer that hid a society in deep distress. This raw conversation moves beyond the diagnosis to ask how we hold space for grief without validating hate, and why true progress means fixing the conditions where racism grows. In this episode, we cover: The Veneer of Progress: Why the "politically correct" era forced honest conversations underground, only for them to explode now.Backlash as Evidence: Why the current unrest might actually be a sign that the old systems are under threat.The Politics of Grief: Understanding how survival mode and loss of identity fuel division, and how to address the fear without validating the racism.Hope in Resistance: Why the counter-resistance is just as important as the backlash.Guest Bios: Cheryl Garvey and Lakshnie Hettihewa are senior brap Associates and long-time activists at brap, bringing decades of experience in navigating systemic oppression, community cohesion, and organisational change. Resources Mentioned: brap Website & ToolsJoin the Equality Republic Music featured: Melting Glass by Eden AveryFloodsNeutral State by Blue SagaEntanglement by Luba HilmanMissing Memories by Christopher Moe DitlevsenOut of the World by Axon TerminalFaunaThis is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    23 min

  2. EPISODE 2

    Is It Imaginative Enough?: The Royal Free

    In Episode 2 of The Quiet Revolution, we step behind closed doors at The Royal Free London, one of the largest NHS trusts in the country, to witness a profound shift in leadership. Host Joy Warmington takes us inside the room where Group Chief Executive Peter Landstrom and his executive team stop "performing" equality and start confronting the reality of it. In a system that rewards certainty, metrics, and control, Peter admits to feeling like a "fraud" and discusses the moment he realised that his own leadership might be upholding the very norms he thought he was challenging. We also hear from Crystal Akass (former Chief People Officer), the strategist who lit the spark. She explains her radical approach to flip the traditional EDI model on its head: instead of focusing interventions on those experiencing racism, she focused accountability directly on the white leaders who hold the power to dismantle it. This is not a story about a perfect plan. It is a raw, honest look at the paralysis of white leadership, the "iceberg of racism," and what it takes to build the stamina for a quiet revolution. In this episode, we cover: The "Fraud" Confession: Why Peter Landstrom felt daunted by the "huge beast" of systemic racism and why standard NHS problem-solving skills don't work here.Flipping the Model: Crystal Akass’s strategy to stop fixing the people experiencing racism and start fixing the white leadership who run the system.The "Dinner Table" Moment: The breakthrough where anti-racism moved from an intellectual exercise to a "whole body response" of passion and shame.The Trap of "Zero Tolerance": Why relying on data and statements often hides the fact that leaders are upholding discriminatory norms.Imagination vs. Metrics: Why the NHS needs to stop looking for new data and start looking for a new imagination. Resources & Links Mentioned: brap Website: https://www.brap.org.ukEquality Republic: https://www.brap.org.uk/republicAnti Racism for White leaders: https://www.brap.org.uk/coachinghttps://www.royalfree.nhs.uk/news/royal-free-london-celebrates-double-win-hpma-awards Music Featured: Melting Glass by Eden AveryFloodsNeutral State by Blue SagaHara Noda, Wood and SkinOstinato VieveriThe Great White North by Eden AveryMissing Memories by Christopher Moe DitlevsenCrucial Calculations by Gavin LukeOut the the world by Axon TerminalFaunaThis is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    36 min

  3. EPISODE 3

    The Engine Room: brap's Six Principles

    In Episode 3 of The Quiet Revolution, we hit the pause button on the outside world to take you straight into the "brap engine room". If our previous episode showed you part of the practice of anti-racism, this episode gives you the map to navigate the territory. Host Joy Warmington sits down with brap colleagues Cheryl Garvey and Lakshnie Hettihewa to break down the six core ideas that guide every part of their practice. We move past the desire for easy toolkits and checklists to explore what it really means to dismantle racialised thinking and challenge systemic oppression. From the absurdity of judging human value by "ear size" to the necessity of looking at white-dominated power structures instead of just minoritised groups, this conversation unpacks the "jigsaw puzzle" of genuine equity. It is a rally call to realise that you are the system, and that disrupting power starts with you. Guest Bios: Cheryl Garvey and Lakshnie Hettihewa are senior brap Associates and long-time activists at brap, bringing decades of experience in navigating systemic oppression, community cohesion, and organisational change. In this episode, we cover: Dismantling Racialised Thinking: Why race is an idea, not a biological fact, and why we must constantly catch ourselves remaking it.The Unexamined Norm: Why we need to stop looking at marginalised groups as the "problem" and turn our gaze toward how white power is held and used.The "Tick Box" Trap: Why a "complexity mindset" is crucial, and how the desire for simple, scalable solutions prevents us from treating the root causes of racism.Building a Coalition: Why anti-racism cannot be left solely to Black and Brown people, and why collectivising is our most powerful tool against oppression.Disrupting Power: The realisation that you don't just exist within a system, you are the system, and making a different choice creates a ripple effect.Resources & Links Mentioned: brap Website: https://www.brap.org.ukEquality Republic: https://www.brap.org.uk/republicMusic Featured: Melting Glass by Eden AveryFloodsNeutral State by Blue SagaOstinato VieveriCrucial Calculations by Gavin LukeOut the the world by Axon TerminalFaunaThis is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    28 min

  4. EPISODE 4

    The boxing ring and the rollercoaster: Comic Relief & UNICEF UK

    In Episode 4 of The Quiet Revolution, we step into the charity sector, a space defined by its values, public promises, and mission to do good. But what happens when that external promise collides with the messy internal reality of confronting inequality? Host Joy Warmington explores the journeys of two household names: Comic Relief and UNICEF UK. We hear from Mabinty Esho (Head of DEIB, Comic Relief) about the grueling personal toll of leading this work as a Black woman, feeling like she is constantly stepping into a "boxing ring". Comic Relief CEO Samir Patel candidly discusses the fallout when the work moves from safe "diversity" to charged "anti-racism," and how a leader holds belief when teams start to lose hope. Finally, UNICEF UK CEO Phillip Goodwin unpacks the tightrope walk of integrity for a "white boss": how do you celebrate progress without dismissing the pain your staff is still experiencing? Guest Bios: Mabinty Esho is the Head of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging at Comic Relief.Samir Patel is the CEO of Comic Relief.Dr Philip Goodwin is the Chief Executive of the UK Committee for UNICEF (UNICEF UK). Between 2015 and 2024, he was Chief Executive of VSO, a charity that brings together local, national and international volunteers to work alongside the world's most marginalised and vulnerable communities to build generational change. He was previously CEO of TREEAID, a development organisation working on agro-forestry in dryland Africa. He spent 11 years with British Council and held leadership positions in Kenya, Uganda, Pakistan and Belgium including being Regional Director for sub-Saharan Africa. Philip has been a community development volunteer in Timbuktu, Mali and a researcher on poverty issues at the Overseas Development Institute. He has a PhD and MSc in rural resource planning and environmental policy and a degree in agricultural economics.In this episode, we cover: The Illusion of Kumbaya: Why the naive assumption that anti-racism is just "the right thing to do" crumbles upon contact with reality.The Boxing Ring: The immense personal weight placed on Global Majority staff tasked with fixing the system.The "White Boss" Dilemma: The tension leaders face when trying to express pride in progress while colleagues are still suffering.The Slow March of Progress: Why leaders must become architects of change, not just sponsors, and commit to the long haul.Resources & Links Mentioned: brap Website: https://www.brap.org.ukEquality Republic: https://www.brap.org.uk/republicMusic Featured: Melting Glass by Eden AveryFloodsNeutral State by Blue SagaOut the the world by Axon TerminalMissing Memories by Christopher Moe DitlevsenCome to, Alan EllisThe Great White North by Eden AveryHara Noda, Wood and SkinFauna This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    37 min

  5. EPISODE 5

    When did you realise you are white?

    In the Season 1 Finale of The Quiet Revolution, we travel to South West London and St George's Mental Health NHS Trust. With 40,000 people in care and a staff of 3,000, the Trust is both a lifeline and a mirror of the inequalities it cannot ignore. Host Joy Warmington speaks exclusively with senior and clinical leaders to explore a critical piece of the puzzle: what happens when leaders stop treating anti-racism as a theoretical project for marginalised groups, and start reckoning with what it demands of them personally? From the visceral shock of the "doll experiment" to the PR nightmare of admitting "our organisation is racist," this episode tracks the journey from personal awakening to structural accountability. We explore why the fear of saying the wrong thing paralyses leadership, the radical act of simply believing staff, and how anti-racism is fundamentally linked to life-or-death clinical metrics, like detention and restraint. Guest Bios: Vanessa Ford is the Chief Executive at South West London and St George's Mental Health NHS Trust.Ian Garlington is the Better Communities Programme Director.Jenna Khalfan is the Director of Communications and Engagement.Dr. Yvonne Hemmings is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist.In this episode, we cover: Unseeing the Norm: Why Ian Garlington described confronting racism as having "the skin peeled from your eyes."The PR Taboo: Why a Director of Comms and a CEO decided to start telling inductees that the organisation has systemic racism.Believing the Experience: Why organisations demand "proof" of racism, and the power of changing the default response to belief.Clinical Outcomes: Why anti-racism isn't just an HR issue, it's about shifting the data on patient restraint, seclusion, and detention under the Mental Health Act.Resources & Links Mentioned: brap Website: https://www.brap.org.ukEquality Republic: https://www.brap.org.uk/republicMusic Featured: Melting Glass by Eden AveryFloodsNeutral State by Blue SagaSigns by Lennon HuttonMissing Memories by Christopher Moe DitlevsenFaunaThis is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    39 min

  6. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    Trailer: The Quiet Revolution

    The UK feels like it is returning to darker days. Divisive language is back in public life, symbols of exclusion are resurfacing, and many organisations are unsure how to respond without retreating into silence or statements. Hosted by Joy Warmington, CEO of brap and a veteran of 25 years at the sharp end of the equality sector, this five-part series takes listeners inside the rooms where the real work is happening. From NHS trusts to major charities, we follow the collisions, the resistance, and the breakthroughs that occur when principles meet power. This is not a podcast about quick fixes, toolkits, or tick-box equality. It is a space not to be performing, but for doing what matters. It explores the human cost of measuring progress differently and the personal liberation that comes from staying with the discomfort. The Quiet Revolution launches February 2026. Follow or subscribe now to join the quiet revolution. This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 min

  7. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    COMING SOON: The Royal Free - Is it imaginative enough? (Teaser)

    "I have felt a fraud at times." Next Tuesday, we go behind closed doors at The Royal Free. Subscribe now so you don't miss it. This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 min

  8. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    COMING SOON: The Engine Room: brap's Six Principles

    It sounds completely ridiculous. But as we explore in our next episode, that is exactly how "bonkers" the concept of race actually is when deciding human value and worth. In Episode 3 of The Quiet Revolution, we hit pause on our external case studies to take you inside the "brap engine room." Joy Warmington sits down with senior brap Associates Cheryl Garvey and Lakshnie Hettihewa to break down the six core principles that guide their anti-racism practice. They start with the most fundamental truth: "race is an idea, it's not a fact." If you want to know what it actually takes to dismantle systemic racism beyond toolkits and tick boxes, this episode is the map you need. This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 min

  9. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    COMING SOON: Comic Relief & UNICEF UK

    "It feels like you're being knocked out, but then having to come back again and enter that fight again." When organisations commit to anti-racism, the stress is often channeled onto the people of colour leading the work. In our next episode, we step inside the charity sector. Mabinty Esho, Head of DEIB at Comic Relief, speaks with profound vulnerability about the personal toll of this work, the challenge of keeping hope, and why it feels like stepping into a boxing ring every day. If you want to understand the human weight of dismantling systemic racism, this is essential listening. Episode 4 launches Tuesday 24th March. Subscribe to the podcast here: https://podfollow.com/the-quiet-revolution  #TheQuietRevolution #brap #AntiRacism #CharitySector #Podcast #Leadership This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    2 min

  10. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    Coming Soon: When did you realise you were white?

    "It's having the skin peeled from your eyes, because once you've seen it, you see it everywhere and you can't unsee it again." What happens when white NHS leaders stop treating anti-racism as an intellectual exercise, and start reckoning with what it asks of them personally? In the Season Finale of The Quiet Revolution, we head to South West London and St George's Mental Health NHS Trust. We hear from Ian Garlington and CEO Vanessa Ford about the moments that shattered their illusions, and why the fear of "getting the language wrong" is no longer an excuse to stay silent. Episode 5 launches Tuesday 7th April. Subscribe to the podcast here: https://podfollow.com/the-quiet-revolution #TheQuietRevolution #brap #NHS #AntiRacism #Podcast #Leadership This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 min

  11. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    The March - Bonus Episode - COMING SOON

    "At some point it was just me sitting in my living room deciding there has to be a Birmingham bloc." In Series 1 of The Quiet Revolution, we took you inside NHS trusts and charities to explore what happens when organisations stop outsourcing anti-racism and start living it. But anti-racism does not clock off at five o'clock. For the people doing this work, the boundary between professional life and personal life does not exist. Racism follows you from the office to the street and back again. On 28th March, brap's Lakshnie Hettihewa organised a Birmingham bloc for the Together Alliance March. Eight organisations, hundreds of people, six coaches. She recorded audio journals along the way. This bonus episode is a different kind of listen. It is raw, immediate, and made on the move. But it belongs in this series because it shows what the work looks like when it steps outside of the boardroom and into community. This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 min

  12. BONUS

    The March

    Something happened that we couldn't ignore. On 28th March, around 500,000 people marched through London with the Together Alliance. Among them was a Birmingham bloc: eight organisations, hundreds of people, six coaches. It was organised by brap's Lakshnie Hettihewa, starting from her living room in Moseley. In this bonus episode, Lakshnie narrates the journey through audio journals recorded along the way. You will hear her in the car with her family, at the assembly point, and in the crowd. You will hear voices from across the Birmingham bloc: grassroots activists, organisers who have marched for decades, and people who showed up for the first time. In Series 1, The Quiet Revolution took listeners inside organisations. This episode goes outside, to the communities where the work of anti-racism is lived every day, not just in boardrooms but on streets, on coaches, and around kitchen tables. It is a different kind of episode. Raw, immediate, and made on the move. Birmingham Bloc Organisations brapBrigBrummies United Against RacismBrum TogetherIndian Workers AssociationKings Heath Against RacismMoseley is for EveryoneUnite the PeopleBirmingham Stand Up to Racism This is a brap production by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    25 min

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The world feels louder and more divided than ever. In the face of resurfacing prejudice and public unrest, many organisations are retreating into silence, or worse, performance. But behind closed doors, a different kind of work is happening. The Quiet Revolution asks what happens when we stop performing anti-racism and start living it. Hosted by Joy Warmington (CEO, brap), this five-part series takes you inside the rooms where that shift is actually being led. From major NHS trusts to national charities, we follow the collisions, the resistance, and the breakthroughs that occur when anti-racism meets power. These are not polished PR stories; they are honest accounts of the human cost of change. This is not a podcast about quick fixes or "fixing people." Drawing on brap’s 25 years of practice, the series moves beyond toolkits to examine the quiet habits and everyday assumptions that keep inequality in place. It explores how we hold space for the uncomfortable and why real leadership is often about staying in the room when everyone else wants to leave. The Quiet Revolution is a limited series from brap, launching February 2026. Listen and subscribe to the series on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Find out more at brap.org.uk. Produced by www.wearefieldwork.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Information

  • Creator
    brap and Joy Warmington
  • Episodes
    12
  • Seasons
    1
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © brap/Curtis James
  • Show Website
    The Quiet Revolution

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