Where The Ramp Ends

Where The Ramp Ends
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Where the Ramp Ends is a podcast about disability, inclusion, and what happens when good intentions meet real life. Hosted by Summer Parrish and Bryce Wooten, the show centers lived experience, honest conversation, and the voices of people with disabilities, family members, and advocates working to change systems—not just optics. From policy and history to parenting, culture, and everyday barriers, we talk about what inclusion actually looks like when the ramp ends and real access begins.

  1. 6d ago

    Meske Owens - REVUPOK, Sprout N Shine and More

    Disabled voters, overwhelmed parents, and anyone tired of systems built without real-life experience - this conversation will make you rethink what access, advocacy, and inclusion actually look like. Mesky Owens returns with the kind of perspective that turns frustration into action, and the result is one of the most important episodes yet.Bryce and Summer welcome back fan favorite Misky Owens for a wide-ranging, deeply honest conversation about disability rights, voting access, education, and the everyday barriers that still shape life for millions of people. From the launch of RevUp Oklahoma to the realities of mail-in voting, transportation gaps, and the way rural and urban communities face entirely different access challenges, this episode makes the case that accessibility is not a side issue - it's the issue.You'll hear Mesky break down: Why one in six registered voters has a disability, and why the real number reaches even further when you include family members and caregiversHow election rules, postal challenges, and lack of reliable information can quietly block people from participatingWhy “agree to disagree” and real conversation matter more than blocking people and walking awayHow parenting changes when disability, age gaps, and changing family needs reshape your entire lens on the worldSummer also brings the education fight into focus, pushing into the messy reality of private school vouchers, understaffed public schools, and why kids often lose access to therapy, speech support, and physical therapy when they need it most. Bryce adds a powerful lived-experience perspective on transportation, spontaneity, and what it means to plan life around access instead of assuming it will be there.Mesky also shares the work behind Sprout and Shine, Common Sense Americans, and the Weekly Wiggle, showing how advocacy can stretch from voting rights to early childhood transitions to low-cost sensory supports families can actually use. Across every topic, the same message keeps surfacing - the best systems are built with people, not for them.If you care about disability rights, special education, civic participation, or simply want a more honest conversation about what inclusion requires, this episode belongs in your queue. It is thoughtful, practical, and a reminder that when lived experience leads, everyone benefits. https://oklahomafamilynetwork.org/about-us/programs/sprout-and-shine/ https://www.aapd.com/about-rev-up/ https://www.commonsenseamerican.org/

  2. Sep 23

    Kevin Nuñez - Turning Lived Experience Into Effective Advocacy

    What if the biggest barrier facing disabled people is not ability, but the systems, assumptions, and segregation built around them? Disability advocate Kevin Nuñez joins Bryce and Summer for a candid conversation about advocacy, inclusion, and what it really takes to help people with disabilities live free, dream bigger, and be seen for who they are. Kevin shares how growing up with cerebral palsy shaped his voice, why his early experience as the outspoken kid in school pushed him toward policy, and how programs like Partners in Policymaking opened his eyes to the power of community, leadership, and national advocacy. Bryce and Summer add their own lived experience and perspective as they unpack the difference between being “included” and being truly valued. You'll hear practical guidance for parents of children with disabilities, including how to support independence, why “dignity of risk” matters, and why letting kids make mistakes is part of helping them grow. Kevin also breaks down the dangers of disability-only spaces, the reality of medical deserts, and how waiver programs and home-based supports can help families avoid unnecessary institutional-style care. We also get into one of the most overlooked parts of advocacy: relationships. Kevin explains how to approach legislators, why staff members matter just as much as elected officials, and how making disability personal can change policy conversations for good. From fantasy football small talk to Capitol Hill strategy, he shows how advocacy actually happens in the real world. This episode is especially valuable for parents, self-advocates, caregivers, and anyone who wants to understand why disability policy is never just policy. It is about freedom, access, representation, and whether people with disabilities are truly allowed to chase the life they want. If you care about disability rights, family support, or building a more inclusive future, this conversation is essential listening. If this episode resonated with you, please take a moment to support the podcast: leave us a review, follow or subscribe wherever you listen, and share this episode with someone who could benefit from the conversation. Every review, follow, subscription, and share helps Where the Ramp Ends reach more families, advocates, and people with disabilities—and helps us keep bringing important conversations like this to a wider audience.

  3. Sep 16

    Erin Prangley - NACDD Director of Public Policy, Becoming a Subject Matter Expert and Connecting With Legislators

    Please rate and review to help us reach others. The disability rights conversation has a blind spot, and Erin Prangley is calling it out. Too many advocates are treated like inspirational storytellers instead of the subject matter experts they actually are—and that mistake is costing the movement real change.Bryce and Summer sit down with Erin, policy director at the National Association of Councils on Developmental Disabilities, for a sharp, personal, and practical conversation about disability advocacy, institutionalization, and what it really takes to move policy forward. Erin shares how her own journey into disability work began with what she calls sincere ignorance, and how learning her family’s hidden history connected her to the fight in a powerful way.You’ll discover why telling your story is not enough if you want to influence legislators, how to build credibility with data and systems knowledge, and why the phrase “subject matter expert” matters so much in disability advocacy. Erin breaks down the difference between being visible and being effective, why conscientious stupidity is even more dangerous than ignorance, and how advocates can use election season to demand accountability from candidates.We also explore the power of local and state systems, from DD Councils and Partners in Policymaking to the practical ways people with disabilities can become leaders inside the rooms where decisions are made. Erin shares unforgettable examples of lived experience changing outcomes, including a voting rights conversation that shifted legislation because someone in the room actually knew what was missing.This episode is essential listening for new advocates, parents, self-advocates, policymakers, and anyone who wants to turn personal experience into meaningful change. If you’ve ever wondered whether your voice can change the system, Erin’s answer is clear: yes—but only if you learn the system, understand the data, and refuse to stay silent.

  4. Sep 2

    The Power of Storytelling in Disability Advocacy with Brittanie Hernandez-Wilson

    Episode Description Disability advocacy becomes unstoppable when your story is clear, specific, and impossible to ignore. Brittanie Hernandez Wilson shows how personal storytelling can change policy, shift minds, and give disabled people and families the tools to fight back - without getting lost in jargon or fear. Bryce and Summer sit down with Brittanie Hernandez-Wilson, a public speaker, self-advocate, and organizer with Hand in Hand, the Domestic Employers Network, to unpack how she went from avoiding her disability to becoming someone who helps protect Medi-Cal and shape legislation in California. Brittany shares the early moment that changed everything - getting her first electric wheelchair at age three - and the long road from internalized ableism to self-acceptance, advocacy, and leadership. You’ll discover: Why storytelling is one of the most effective tools in disability advocacy How Brittanie used her own experience to help change a task force law around subminimum wage What a one-pager is, why legislators rely on it, and how to make yours work How parents can support their children’s advocacy without speaking over disabled adults Why plain language, lived experience, and a clear ask matter more than polished political talk Summer also brings a parent’s perspective to the conversation, including what it means to advocate for a daughter with Down syndrome and why connecting with disabled adults is essential for making the right choices. Together, they explore the tension between parents and self-advocates, the importance of disability history, and why the best advocacy centers the people most affected. Brittanie also breaks down where real change starts: relationship-building with legislators, centering love, and teaching the next generation how to speak up for themselves. From Olmstead to IDEA, from grassroots organizing to avoiding burnout, this episode makes the case that disability rights are not abstract - they shape whether people can live at home, go to school, work, and make their own choices. Essential listening if you want to become a better advocate, tell a more powerful story, or support disability justice in a way that actually helps.

  5. Jul 1

    The Hidden Power of Personal Stories in Changing Disability Legislation- Oklahoma's Representative Nicole Miller & Representative Ellyn Hefner

    Representatives Nicole Miller and Ellen Hefner are leading voices in Oklahoma’s legislative efforts to improve disability policy, driven by personal experience and committed to lasting change. In this eye-opening episode of Where the Ramp Ends, representational leaders Nicole Miller and Ellen Hefner reveal how forming a bipartisan Disability Caucus is transforming policy, amplifying voices, and closing execution gaps that have long limited opportunities for Oklahomans with disabilities. Discover how this caucus, born out of personal stories and driven by genuine relationships, is championing life-changing legislation—from opening college tuition opportunities for those with intellectual disabilities to boosting transportation equity across the state. You'll hear about tangible wins like securing $2 million for mobility management programs and fostering trust that bridges partisan divides—all with the goal of creating a community where every individual, regardless of ability, can thrive.You'll learn: why storytelling is the most powerful advocacy tool, how partnerships with families and community stakeholders accelerate progress, and what concrete steps are being taken to make Oklahoma more inclusive—such as supporting supported decision-making instead of guardianship, and fighting unjust wage laws that devalue the work of individuals with disabilities. The caucus’s efforts serve as a blueprint for effective, bipartisan action that benefits all of society.Why does this matter? Because ignoring these issues costs lives, limits potential, and deepens societal divides. But with shared commitment and authentic relationships, real change is possible. This episode is essential listening for advocates, policymakers, families, and community leaders dedicated to building a future where all Oklahomans are valued, heard, and empowered to lead meaningful lives.Whether you're passionate about education, employment, transportation, or human rights, you'll walk away inspired and equipped to help shape Oklahoma’s next chapter of inclusion. These stories and strategies can be adapted nationwide—together, we can build a more accessible, compassionate America.Join us to hear how bipartisan collaboration and heartfelt advocacy are reshaping the future for disability communities—and how you can play a part

  6. Jun 24

    Navigating Change: Special Education and the Future of Disability Advocacy

    Please subscribe, rate and review to help others find this podcast. Thank you for your support. The revolutionary power of advocacy rooted in lived experience—how one mother’s journey transformed disability policy nationwide Laura’s story defies expectations. Born in 1982 at a time when life for people with Down syndrome often ended too soon, she not only thrived but broke barriers—attending college, working at the World Bank, and living independently. Her mother, Stephanie Smith Lee, was already working in policy when Laura was born, and that background helped shape a lifelong commitment to disability rights, turning personal experience into public action. Stephanie’s journey shows how expertise and lived experience together can reshape policy from local schools to federal legislation. In this compelling episode, Stephanie shares transformative moments from her four decades of advocacy—highlighting how personal stories have shaped landmark laws like IDEA, the ABLE Act, and inclusive higher education initiatives. You’ll discover how grassroots movements and bipartisan partnerships can push policy forward, even when the obstacles seem insurmountable. Stephanie also reveals the crucial role of self-advocates and how cultivating relationships with policymakers is key to lasting impact. Her insights offer a blueprint for anyone eager to turn lived experiences into powerful legislative change. You’ll also hear practical strategies for advocacy—how to tell your story in a way that shifts perspectives and influences policy decisions. Stephanie emphasizes the importance of perseverance: advocacy is a marathon, not a sprint. Her stories about fighting for inclusive education, safeguarding Medicaid, and defending federal oversight illuminate the stakes—and opportunities—facing the disability community today. Her message is clear: real people can make a real difference, if they refuse to give up. Perfect for parents, advocates, policymakers, and self-advocates, this episode shows how individual dedication can shape a more inclusive future. Whether you’re just starting your advocacy journey or looking for fresh inspiration, Stephanie’s story reaffirms that persistence and passion can change lives—and laws—for generations to come. Stephanie Smith Lee is Co-Director of Policy and Advocacy at the National Down Syndrome Congress, with over 35 years of experience in disability rights, shaping policies in Congress, the Department of Education, and beyond. Her work, informed by her daughter Laura’s courageous life, continues to inspire real-world change—proof that advocacy fueled by both expertise and love can move mountains. Don’t miss this powerful conversation about resilience, policy, and the ongoing fight for disability rights—because your story, combined with persistence, has the power to change the world. Find out more about the National Down Syndrome Congress here.

  7. Jun 17

    Maria Town - President and CEO of the American Association of People with Disabilities

    Maria Town, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities, reveals how authentic inclusion and civic engagement can transform policy, communities, and lives. Discover how disability leadership on Capitol Hill is shaping laws that directly affect millions, from protecting Medicaid to ending the harmful SSI asset limits. Maria shares concrete strategies for advocates of all backgrounds to amplify their voices—whether through local community action or lobbying legislators—and why visibility is essential to breaking down stereotypes.In this episode, you'll uncover the innovative initiatives driving real change, such as AAPD’s cross-disability advocacy, the impact of the Summer Internship Program which boasts a 70% full-time employment rate, and key legislation like the IDEA Full Funding Act and the SSI Savings Penalty Elimination Act. Maria discusses the importance of diverse perspectives within the disability community, from rural representation to age inclusion, emphasizing that advocacy works best when everyone’s voice is heard.You'll also hear honest stories about societal low expectations—like how many disabled individuals are unfairly treated as “extraordinary” just for doing everyday tasks—and how visibility and self-confidence can flip that narrative. Maria’s insights demonstrate that the fight for disability rights is rooted in community, collaboration, and relentless hope. This episode is a rallying cry for anyone committed to creating an equitable future—because the power to shape policy, shift perceptions, and build an inclusive society lies in your voice.Perfect for advocates, policy changemakers, parents, and disabled individuals eager to find their place in the movement, this conversation will inspire action and remind you: together, we can turn the tide. Get motivated to run for office, connect with local organizations, or simply start showing up—because your voice is more powerful than ever, and your impact can last a lifetime.Guest credibility: Maria Towne is President and CEO of the American Association of People with Disabilities, a leading voice in advancing disability rights through policy, leadership development, and grassroots advocacy. Her work has helped shape national conversations around accessibility, inclusion, and social justice. Learn more about the AAPD here.

  8. Jun 10

    Senator Julia Kirt and Meske Owens - The Impact People With Disabilities Can Make At The Polls

    Most people underestimate how much state elections impact daily life—until accessibility, education, or healthcare policies are at stake. In this eye-opening episode, Oklahoma State Senator Julia Kirt and disability advocate Meske Owens reveal why voting at the state level is essential for progress on issues that matter most to people with disabilities. You'll discover how local elections influence everything from Medicaid and special education to accessible polling places—and why your voice in these decisions can create real change. This episode breaks down concrete steps for voters with disabilities to get informed, connected, and active—including using resources like polling place audits. They share inspiring stories of advocacy that shifted policy, illustrating how your participation can shape legislation and improve services. We discuss the often-overlooked power of one vote—and how building relationships with legislators can amplify your impact year-round. Learn why increasing accessibility isn't just about compliance—it's about creating a society where everyone can participate fully. Find out how to talk to candidates, ask the right questions, and push for laws that support community, health, and education. If you're a first-time voter or a seasoned advocate, this episode offers practical guidance and motivation to turn your voice into action. Now is the time to turn awareness into influence. Whether it's improving polling access, advocating for disability rights, or simply making your vote count, your involvement can change lives—not just in Oklahoma, but across the country. Your community needs your voice—because when you vote, you're not just casting a ballot, you're casting a vision for a more inclusive future. Perfect for people with disabilities, allies, and community leaders—this episode empowers you to be an informed, fearless advocate. Get inspired to participate, connect, and hold your leaders accountable. Your journey toward meaningful change starts now.

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Where the Ramp Ends is a podcast about disability, inclusion, and what happens when good intentions meet real life. Hosted by Summer Parrish and Bryce Wooten, the show centers lived experience, honest conversation, and the voices of people with disabilities, family members, and advocates working to change systems—not just optics. From policy and history to parenting, culture, and everyday barriers, we talk about what inclusion actually looks like when the ramp ends and real access begins.

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