Christian Music Maker

Sam Hart & Worship Leader Media

Helping Christian music makers build a lasting legacy while navigating ministry, industry, and the inner life. The Christian Music Maker Podcast is for artists, songwriters, producers, and leaders who want more than momentary success. Hosted by Sam Hart, the show explores the real-world tension of navigating faith, calling, creativity, and the realities of the music industry. Through honest, long-form conversations with seasoned artists, industry voices, and other experts this podcast creates space for thoughtful discussion around ministry, career, and the inner life—helping Christian music makers pursue real and lasting success without losing their soul.

  1. May 28

    Ep. 16 — Worship Doesn’t Have to Sound the Same (with Steele Croswhite & Caleb Yetton)

    In this episode of Christian Music Maker, Sam sits down with Steele Croswhite and Caleb Yetton from The Rock Music in Utah for a conversation about worship culture, authenticity, theology, creativity, and why so many churches unintentionally end up sounding exactly the same. Steele shares his journey from rock-and-roll frontman to pastor and worship leader after addiction, loss, and a radical encounter with Jesus changed the trajectory of his life. Caleb shares how grace, discipleship, and authentic community reshaped his understanding of ministry and creativity. Together, they unpack: How churches can discover their own unique “sound” Why authenticity matters more than trends The tension between creativity and imitation in worship culture Theology, Scripture, and discipleship in worship ministry Why local church involvement matters for musicians Building team culture instead of personality-driven ministry What it looks like to create music that actually reflects your city and people This is a conversation for worship leaders, artists, pastors, songwriters, producers, and anyone wrestling with how to build something meaningful without simply copying what already exists. Follow / listen to The Rock Music: therockmusic.org Instagram: instagram.com/therockmusic TikTok: tiktok.com/@therockmusic Facebook: facebook.com/therockmusic   Christian Music maker: https://www.christianmusicmaker.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christian.music.maker

    1h 8m
  2. Ep. 15 — How to Book Your Own Shows Before the Big Breakthrough with Connor Flanagan

    May 14

    Ep. 15 — How to Book Your Own Shows Before the Big Breakthrough with Connor Flanagan

    Christian hip hop artist Connor Flanagan joins Sam Hart for a practical and honest conversation about what it really looks like to build an artist career before the “big breakthrough.” Connor is a full-time indie artist, husband, dad of five, songwriter, performer, and self-described artistpreneur who has learned how to book his own shows, route tours, build a live experience, sell merch, and keep going without waiting for a label, manager, or booking agent to rescue him. In this episode, Connor shares how he went from playing small shows with CDs and moving lights to building a nimble live setup that fits in a minivan. He also opens up about fear, faith, comparison, anxiety, and what it takes to stay faithful in the middle season of the artist journey. If you’re a Christian artist, songwriter, producer, worship leader, or creative trying to figure out how to move forward without a full team behind you, this conversation is full of gold. Connect with Connor: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/connorflanaganmusic Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/connor-flanagan/450791190 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5AhC3FXTAcCNMKXvVhGDZo?si=3erpY25US2yF0JaGq711yA Website: https://www.connorflanaganmusic.com Connect with Christian Music Maker: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christian.music.maker YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@christianmusicmakerpodcast Website: https://www.christianmusicmaker.com

    32 min
  3. Ep. 14 – You Never Know Who's Listening (The Song That's Discipling Perez Hilton)

    May 7

    Ep. 14 – You Never Know Who's Listening (The Song That's Discipling Perez Hilton)

    What happens when a former skeptic and mocker of Christianity has a radical encounter with God in a hospital bed — and Christian music becomes part of his redemption story? In this solo episode (the first since Episode 0!), Sam reflects on a viral post from celebrity influencer Perez Hilton, who recently shared how a song by Rend Collective and Jervis Campbell moved him to tears on the way to school drop-off. It's a surprising, encouraging, and timely reminder of something every Christian music maker needs to hear: you never know who is going to hear your song and how God is going to use it. Sam also gets personal — sharing his own story of how Christian music met him in his own prodigal season, his convictions about Scripture and sexuality, and why staying "salty" matters more than chasing spins, streams, or awards. If you're tired, discouraged, or wondering if any of this is worth it — this episode is for you. In this episode: The Perez Hilton story and why it matters for Christian music makers Watch the clip Sam references: [Perez Hilton's Post — https://youtu.be/pmhAdGubNXI?si=yONpOv1byx8en6kz ] Rend Collective & Jervis Campbell — listen to Do It All Alone: SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/track/4r52cNLmKqWVMMyaHYXikF?si=29cd4d2261744b8f  |  APPLE MUSIC: https://music.apple.com/us/album/do-it-all-alone/1887355945?i=1887356036 Sam's personal story and convictions Matthew 5:13-16 — Stay salty, stay light A word of encouragement for the weary creative Join the conversation: 📲 Follow & DM us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christian.music.maker Supported by Worship Leader Media: https://worshipleader.com Enjoying the podcast? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts — just scroll down on the show page, select your star rating, and tap "Write a Review." It takes 60 seconds and helps more Christian music makers find the show. ~1,000 downloads and counting — thank you to listeners across the US, Canada, Algeria, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Pakistan, Philippines, New Zealand, Mexico, Chile, Italy, and beyond!

    22 min
  4. Ep. 13 – Jamie Jamgochian: God Told Me "You're Gonna Sing Again"

    Apr 30

    Ep. 13 – Jamie Jamgochian: God Told Me "You're Gonna Sing Again"

    What do you do when the calling you were certain about… goes quiet? In this episode, Jamie Jamgochian shares the real story behind a career that looked like it was over—Lyme disease, years of silence, and the wrestle of wondering if God was finished. We talk about surrender, identity, waiting seasons, and what it actually means to trust God when nothing is moving. If you’re an artist, songwriter, or producer navigating a slow season—or questioning your next step—this one will hit close to home.   00:00 — Intro 02:00 — From jazz pianist to Jesus encounter 05:00 — How faith reshaped her music and calling 09:00 — Early days with Centricity Music + “Hear My Worship” 13:30 — Worship vs CCM: does the distinction even matter? 21:30 — When everything stopped: illness, silence, and doubt 24:30 — “I thought it was over…” — hearing God in the lowest moment 27:00 — Identity: who you are when the music stops 32:00 — Advice for single artists in ministry 38:30 — The importance of mentorship and being teachable 43:00 — Stop waiting for industry permission 46:30 — New music, book, and creative direction 49:00 — How to wait well when nothing is happening 🔑 What You’ll Take Away Why your identity can’t be tied to your career How to navigate seasons where nothing is moving What surrender actually looks like in real life (not just songs) Why mentorship and community matter more than you think The difference between calling, timing, and control 📌 Connect with Jamie Music, book, and more from https://www.jaimejam.com https://www.christianmusicmaker.com

    52 min
  5. Ep. 10 – You Are Not Your Music: A Conversation on Identity, Worth, and Belonging (with Bill Yuhasz)

    Apr 9

    Ep. 10 – You Are Not Your Music: A Conversation on Identity, Worth, and Belonging (with Bill Yuhasz)

    What if your identity has slowly become tied to your success? For many Christian artists, songwriters, and producers — music becomes more than just a calling. It becomes a place to find belonging, approval, and worth. But what happens when success doesn’t come… or when it does and still doesn’t satisfy? In this conversation, Sam Hart sits down with Bill Yuhasz from Known Legacy to talk about identity, healing, and learning to create from who you already are — not for what you hope to become. They explore how men especially can struggle with performance-based identity, why our worth often becomes tied to our work, and how God invites us into a deeper place of belonging that isn’t dependent on platform, success, or recognition. This episode is about doing music from identity — not for it. In this episode: Why many artists unknowingly perform for belonging The difference between identity and calling How success can become a substitute for love and acceptance Healing the wounds that drive performance-based identity Learning to create from who you already are in Christ Why men often struggle to name emotions and vulnerability Finding worth beyond platform, recognition, or achievement Creating from identity instead of chasing validation Connect with Bill Yuhasz / Known Legacy Website: https://knownlegacy.org Book: https://knownlegacy.org/more-than-you Known Legacy Podcast: https://knownlegacy.org/podcasts Christian Music Maker Website: https://www.christianmusicmaker.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christian.music.maker

    38 min
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Helping Christian music makers build a lasting legacy while navigating ministry, industry, and the inner life. The Christian Music Maker Podcast is for artists, songwriters, producers, and leaders who want more than momentary success. Hosted by Sam Hart, the show explores the real-world tension of navigating faith, calling, creativity, and the realities of the music industry. Through honest, long-form conversations with seasoned artists, industry voices, and other experts this podcast creates space for thoughtful discussion around ministry, career, and the inner life—helping Christian music makers pursue real and lasting success without losing their soul.

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