Realm Runners

Pete (Pete_Reviews_Books_Good) & Devin (BroMantasy)

Pete and Devin sit down with fantasy, romantasy, sci-fi, and indie authors. Not for the press tour. For the real conversation. Books, movies, music, and whatever else comes up. Episodes streamed live on the @realm_runners youtube channel then uploaded to all platforms. Be sure to follow Pete on socials @Pete_Reviews_Books_Good and Devin @BroMantasy for the latest show updates and episode announcements!

  1. Jul 28

    Cal Logan Returns: Shadow Vein, Book Two Politics, and Real Yokai Folklore

    Cal Logan is back for round two, and it's the show's first return guest. His debut ShadowBane landed as one of Pete's picks for Indie Book of 2025, and the sequel, ShadowVein, closes out a very different kind of book two. Cal walks through the decision to pull back from book one's battle heavy structure and lean into political, character driven fantasy instead, a swing he knew was risky right after such a strong debut. We get into the covers, including the original concept Cal brought his artist that got scrapped for something stronger, and the color shift for book two that quietly sets up book three. Cal also breaks down how much of ShadowBane and ShadowVein pulls directly from real Japanese yokai folklore rather than invented mythology, why he chose feudal Japan over Western demon lore for the series' backbone, and the specific liberties he did and didn't feel comfortable taking with a culture that isn't his own. Plus how a planned single book split into a trilogy once the story kept growing past 700 pages, the advice Cal has for indie authors nervous to put themselves out there, and a first look at what's coming: a prequel novella covering the twins' early days, and a much bigger, war focused book three landing in 2028. =========================== Connect with Cal Instagram / TikTok: @cal_logan_author =========================== Connect with Realm Runners Subscribe: @realm_runners Follow Realm Runners: instagram.com/realm_runners Follow Pete: instagram.com/pete_reviews_books_good Follow Devin: instagram.com/bromantasy 0:00 — Intro and welcome back to episode twelve with Cal Logan 3:33 — Cal introduces Shadow Bane, Shadow Vein, and the Schism of Souls trilogy 4:41 — Why book two pulls back from action into political, character-driven fantasy 8:39 — Cover art process: the scrapped original concept and finding the right artist 11:40 — Book two's color shift and what it sets up for book three 27:35 — Splitting one massive manuscript into a trilogy 29:29 — Grimdark influences and that eight-message death scene 30:51 — How much of the demon mythology is real Japanese yokai folklore 32:25 — Why feudal Japan instead of Western demon lore 33:36 — Anime influences, Demon Slayer comps, and the Andy Palakin quote 37:21 — Advice for indie authors: being unafraid and staying genuine online 1:01:58 — The background mythology readers latched onto more than expected 1:03:11 — Why nothing an indie author writes goes to waste 1:04:51 — Book three update: war, mythology payoff, and a 2028 target 1:07:02 — The prequel novella: the twins' early days before Shadow Bane 1:08:26 — Wrap-up and where to find Cal

  2. Jul 21

    Jesse Aragon on Demon Star: Morally Gray Leads, X-Files Horror, and a Pierce Brown Blurb

    Pete has been dying to get Jesse Aragon on the show since he saw the cover of Demon Star back in January, and six months later the wait pays off. Jesse is a science fantasy author and full-time nurse whose debut, out July 28 from DAW, follows an exorcist and a demon-possessed warrior on a god-ruled, ruined planet, where the woman's son is chosen to become the vessel of a god-killing demon. We get into how that cover came together, down to Jesse sketching stick-figure poses on a work schedule and sending it to the artist as reference. Jesse walks through the wild road to this book: querying at 19, a shelved 180,000-word novel that died on submission, a second agent, and a leaner 109,000-word manuscript that DAW then asked to expand by 20 to 30 percent. We talk about writing morally compromised leads without losing reader investment, the deliberate choice to let a queer relationship be as messy and "problematic" as any straight one in the genre, and how years working trauma and emergency medicine feed directly into how Jesse writes violence: ugly, consequential, never just cool. Plus the exorcism horror movies and a half-remembered X-Files episode about a parasitic worm cult that Jesse didn't realize had shaped the whole book until a rewatch last year, the no-context text that delivered a Pierce Brown blurb, a second blurb from Rebecca Roanhorse that arrived the same way, and the advice Jesse has for anyone still years out from a book deal: the work still counts even when nobody's watching. Demon Star releases July 28 from DAW. Book two, a standalone set in the same universe, is already in progress. =========================== Connect with JesseInstagram: @jva_writes =========================== Connect with Realm RunnersSubscribe: @realm_runners Follow Realm Runners: instagram.com/realm_runners Follow Pete: instagram.com/pete_reviews_books_good Follow Devin: instagram.com/bromantasy Timestamps0:00 — Intro and welcome to episode eleven with Jesse Aragon 1:02 — Jesse introduces Demon Star, out July 28 4:39 — The cover: working with artist Kieran Yanner and the stick-figure pose sketch 7:42 — Commissioning character art before the book deal even existed 10:20 — What DAW let Jesse do: expanding from a lean 109K to a longer, fuller book 12:16 — Writing flashbacks that don't break immersion 17:00 — Writing morally compromised leads without losing the reader 20:04 — Committing to an unlikable character instead of softening her 22:32 — How ER and nursing work shaped writing injury and trauma 26:52 — Why violence should hurt on the page, not just look cool 27:48 — Getting blurbed by Pierce Brown with zero context 31:31 — Messy, complicated relationships and "problematic" queer representation 35:26 — The horror side: exorcism movies, bugs, and a childhood love of possession stories 38:06 — The X-Files parasite-cult episode that quietly inspired the whole book 42:06 — Advice for aspiring authors: querying at 19, a book deal at 30 49:38 — Book two: a standalone set in the same universe 53:03 — What's surprised Jesse about early reader reactions 59:15 — Where to find Jesse and wrap-up

Ratings & Reviews

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Pete and Devin sit down with fantasy, romantasy, sci-fi, and indie authors. Not for the press tour. For the real conversation. Books, movies, music, and whatever else comes up. Episodes streamed live on the @realm_runners youtube channel then uploaded to all platforms. Be sure to follow Pete on socials @Pete_Reviews_Books_Good and Devin @BroMantasy for the latest show updates and episode announcements!