The Kitchen Table

Urban Podcasts

Welcome to The Kitchen Table, with Phil, Mohamed, and Danielle. A space where research meets relationships, and where we slow things down to talk about what really matters. This is where you’ll get to know us - our journeys through education, the questions we’re still wrestling with, and why belonging, mattering, and social justice sit at the heart of the work we do. We’ll also be joined by friends from across education and beyond, people who are committed to building communities that are rooted in care, courage, and the belief that everyone matters. So grab a cup of tea, a coffee, or whatever comfort food you have at arm’s reach, pull up a chair, and spend some time with us at The Kitchen Table.

  1. Oct 26

    Rethinking EdTech with Hannah Sweeney of Magma Maths

    Can educational technology actually strengthen the teacher's role rather than diminish it in an age of increasing screen time and AI? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Hannah Sweeney, Head of Account Management UK at Magma Maths. Hannah shares her insights on how technology can be thoughtfully integrated into the classroom to support teachers rather than replace them. We explore the philosophy behind Magma Maths, the importance of active versus passive screen time, and how real-time data can transform mathematics teaching by freeing up valuable teacher time. What You’ll Discover - Redefining EdTech in the Classroom: Why the most effective technology acts as a vehicle for collaboration and oracy rather than isolating students behind screens. - Active vs. Passive Screen Time: How to communicate the difference to parents and staff, ensuring that digital tools are used purposefully to enhance learning rather than just digitise traditional methods. - Tackling Teacher Workload: How real-time data and AI can handle onerous tasks like marking and identifying misconceptions, allowing teachers to focus on what they do best - supporting individual learners. Building a meaningful approach to educational technology requires starting with the learning goal first and the technology second. By focusing on the practical realities of the classroom and listening to the needs of both teachers and pupils, we can create environments where technology truly serves the human element of education. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  2. Oct 12

    Leora Cruddas on Civic and System Leadership and Building a Socially Just Schooling System

    What does it really mean for schools to lead beyond their own gates, and can education help build a more socially just society? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Leora Cruddas, founding chief executive of the Confederation of School Trusts and author of New Domains of Educational Leadership. Leora shares how being born in apartheid South Africa and teaching English in an NGO-funded school in the township of Alexandra taught her to see beyond poverty and disadvantage to the cultural wealth of a community. We explore organisational, civic and system leadership, why belonging is a precondition for learning, and why she calls SEND and inclusion the social justice issue of our time. What You'll Discover - Acting On the System, Not Just In It: Why leaders must move beyond a compliance mindset and become the architects of the local systems in which they live and lead. - The Partnership Dividend: How the complex problems facing children and communities are beyond the reach of any single institution, and why schools and trusts must collaborate with other civic actors for the common good. - Belonging Without Tick Boxes: Why schools and trusts should measure what they value and be accountable to their communities, without turning belonging into a national accountability measure. Leora's powerful reminder is that we must lead in the situation we are in, not the one we wish we were in. By putting dignity and relationships at the heart of every school, today could be the moment we start deliberately and intentionally to build a socially just society. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  3. Sep 28

    The Architecture of Belonging: Why Connection is a Human Right with Kim Samuel

    What does it truly mean to find connection in an increasingly fragmented and isolating world? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Kim Samuel, author of On Belonging: Finding Connection in an Age of Isolation and founder of the Belonging Forum. Kim is a leading global voice in the movement to understand and address social isolation. We explore why belonging is not just a soft aspiration or a well-being add-on, but a fundamental human right and a design principle for our communities, schools, and public life. What You’ll Discover - The Four Ps of Belonging: How our connection to people, place, power, and purpose forms the foundation of what it means to truly feel at home in the world. - Belonging as a Birthright: Why we must move beyond treating belonging as a tick-box exercise and recognise it as an inherent human right that requires us to dismantle systemic barriers. - Designing for Connection: How our physical spaces, educational systems, and social structures must be intentionally architected for belonging, rather than leaving isolation to thrive by default. Kim’s powerful reminder is that while we can never force another person to belong, we can hold the space and design the conditions that allow them to find it. In a world that often leaves us feeling depleted, this conversation offers a hopeful vision for how we can build communities where every person is seen, valued, and heard. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  4. Sep 14

    Bennie Kara on Language, Identity, and the True Meaning of Belonging in Schools

    When a school welcomes a young person through its doors, creating a true sense of belonging means meeting them exactly where they are. In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Bennie Kara - educator, author, speaker, curriculum specialist, and former deputy headteacher. Bennie began her career in the inaugural Teach First cohort in 2003 and has taught across London and the Midlands. She co-founded Diverse Educators, is the founder of Adhara Education, and is the author of A Little Guide for Teachers: Diversity in Schools. Together we explore the deep connections between language, belonging, and inclusion, and how schools can move beyond tokenism to weave true diversity into the fabric of their culture. What You’ll Discover - Beyond Simple Representation: Why a diverse curriculum is not just about ticking boxes, but about allowing students to see outside of themselves and recognising the full humanity of others. - A Curriculum of Hope: How to balance challenging historical truths with narratives of joy, agency, and ordinariness so that all students see their heritage valued. - The Power of Language: Why getting a student’s name right is a fundamental act of respect, and how leaders can create safe spaces where staff can make mistakes, learn, and grow together. Bennie’s powerful reminder is that belonging is the exact opposite of simply “fitting in.” By moving away from a compliance mindset and committing to long-term cultural change, schools can become places where every child is truly known, valued, and celebrated for who they are. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  5. Aug 31

    Jon Hutchinson on What Classroom Level Belonging Really Look Like

    What if the secret to academic rigour isn't just a strict curriculum, but a classroom where every child genuinely feels they belong? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Jon Hutchinson, Director of Curriculum and Teacher Development at the Reach Foundation and author of Building Belonging. Jon shares his journey from focusing purely on instructional rigour to realising that even the best curriculum fails if students are not emotionally and behaviourally engaged. We explore how schools can move past tokenistic gestures to create environments where students feel truly known, valued, and indispensable. What You’ll Discover - The Three Pillars of Belonging: Why feeling known, valued, and able to make genuine contributions are the foundational elements of a thriving school culture. - Dismantling Belonging Uncertainty: How radical transparency and reframing academic struggle can prevent students from internalising failure as a sign that they don't fit in. - Designing Relational Schools: Practical insights from Reach Academy Feltham on how deliberate architectural and linguistic choices from first-name terms to home visits can dismantle traditional power dynamics and build deep trust. Building a true sense of belonging isn't about lowering standards or avoiding hard work. It is about creating the high-trust environments necessary for students to take the ultimate academic risk: trying, failing, and growing in front of their peers. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  6. Aug 17

    Action Jackson: Happiness, Belonging and the Neuroscience of Connection

    What happens to human beings when they stop feeling that they belong, matter, or have agency over their lives? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we are joined by Jackson Ogunyemi, better known as Action Jackson. Jackson is an international keynote speaker, educator, mentor, author, and the self-described UK ambassador for happiness. We explore his journey from falling into depression to reclaiming his joy, the neuroscience behind human connection, and why we must move from a culture of performing well-being to truly experiencing it. What You’ll Discover - The Performance of Happiness: Why modern culture rewards us for showcasing our lives rather than truly connecting, and how this leads to emotional dysregulation. - Connect Before You Correct: How building genuine, long-term relationships with young people creates the safety needed for them to accept guidance and embrace failure. - Reclaiming Your Joy: A look into Jackson's SMILE framework and why giving yourself permission to pause and replenish is essential for sustainable leadership. Jackson’s powerful reminder is that unconditional love is not just a soft concept, but a neurological necessity for human beings to thrive. In a world that often feels increasingly divided and exhausting, this conversation offers a hopeful, practical vision for bringing joy, presence, and genuine connection back into our schools and homes. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  7. Aug 3

    Peter Hughes: The Mossbourne Way - Building a 100-Year Legacy in Education

    What does it truly take to build a school culture where academic excellence is non-negotiable, and how do you hold the line when the world pushes back? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, we sit down with Peter Hughes, CEO of the Mossbourne Federation and author of Outstanding School Leadership. Known for transforming educational outcomes in areas of high deprivation, Peter shares his uncompromising philosophy on discipline, high expectations, and why clarity is the ultimate form of care for disadvantaged children. What You’ll Discover - Creating Environments Where Learning is the Norm: Why true social mobility requires a highly structured, predictable environment where the easiest thing for a child to do is learn. - The Long-Term View of Belonging: Why well-being should be measured by the adults children become in ten years' time, rather than just how they feel on any given Tuesday. - Moral Courage in Leadership: The importance of standing by your principles, protecting your staff, and why true allyship sometimes means risking your career for what is right. Building a legacy that lasts a century requires more than just good intentions; it demands an unwavering belief in the potential of every child. By refusing to lower the bar and holding fast to clear boundaries, we can create schools that genuinely change the trajectory of future generations. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

  8. Jul 20

    Finding Cultural Agency in an Uncertain Future

    What if the true measure of social mobility isn't about escaping your community, but having the agency to thrive within it? In this episode of The Kitchen Table, Phil and Danielle sit down for a conversation exploring the powerful concept of "cultural agency." Moving beyond the traditional, often limiting view of social mobility as a ladder of escape, they discuss how we can reframe our educational systems to help young people flourish without requiring them to erase their backgrounds or leave their communities behind. What You’ll Discover - Redefining Social Mobility: Why true flourishing shouldn't require young people to abandon their roots, and how "cultural agency" allows students to succeed while remaining authentic to who they are. - AI as a Social Leveller: How artificial intelligence is democratising voice, allowing individuals who might lack traditional middle-class communication skills to confidently express themselves and be heard. - Navigating the Future of Work: A deep dive into the Milburn Review, the realities facing the 1.2 million young people not in education, employment, or training and why our education system must pivot towards human creativity and critical thinking. If we want to truly prepare the next generation for an unpredictable future, we must stop viewing their backgrounds as something to overcome and instead see them as the foundation for their success. By fostering self-worth and normalising the fear of stepping into new spaces, we can build a system where every young person feels they have earned a seat at the table. Connect with Phil Banks thebelongingcollective.blog. Connect with Mohamed Abdallah Substack. Connect with Danielle Lewis-Egonu Substack. The Kitchen Table are grateful to our sponsors Magma Maths, Zen Educate, St Christophers Trust, Cygnus Ambition Foundation, The Reach Foundation and it is produced by Urban Podcasts.

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Welcome to The Kitchen Table, with Phil, Mohamed, and Danielle. A space where research meets relationships, and where we slow things down to talk about what really matters. This is where you’ll get to know us - our journeys through education, the questions we’re still wrestling with, and why belonging, mattering, and social justice sit at the heart of the work we do. We’ll also be joined by friends from across education and beyond, people who are committed to building communities that are rooted in care, courage, and the belief that everyone matters. So grab a cup of tea, a coffee, or whatever comfort food you have at arm’s reach, pull up a chair, and spend some time with us at The Kitchen Table.