Beyond The White Coat: A Doc2Doc Podcast

Dr. Zwade Marshall
  • 5.0 (5)
  • Entrepreneurship

Beyond the White Coat explores the stories of health professionals who dared to question the traditional path and built careers aligned with their passions, purpose, and entrepreneurial drive.

Episodes

  1. Jul 1

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Kristin Burton | How Clinicians Actually Build Wealth

    In this episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Kristin Burton, PA-C—critical care physician assistant, founder of Millionaires in Medicine, and one of healthcare’s leading voices on financial education—for a conversation about building wealth with intention. After paying off nearly $160,000 in student loan debt and becoming a millionaire by age 31, Kristin shares how she transformed financial stress into long-term freedom. Together, she and Zwade unpack why so many high-income clinicians still feel financially trapped, the misconceptions surrounding debt, and the importance of creating systems that build lasting wealth—not just bigger paychecks. They also explore investing, strategic leverage, career optionality, and why financial literacy should be an essential part of every clinician’s education. Throughout the conversation, Kristin offers practical insights that empower healthcare professionals to make confident financial decisions without shame, burnout, or unrealistic expectations. At its core, this episode is about redefining financial success—not as earning more, but as creating more freedom, flexibility, and choice. If you've ever wondered why a great salary doesn't always lead to financial independence—or wanted a smarter approach to building wealth while still loving your career—this conversation is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter/X – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts Subscribe to stay up to date with the latest episodes.

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Kristin Burton | How Clinicians Actually Build Wealth

  2. Jun 17

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Iggy | The Reality Of Being Visible In Medicine

    In this episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Dr. Iggy—orthopedic spine surgeon, entrepreneur, educator, and one of medicine’s most influential digital voices—for a conversation about identity, impact, and redefining what success can look like in medicine. Known for building a platform that reaches hundreds of thousands of people, Dr. Iggy shares his journey from surgeon to creator, mentor, and business leader. Together, he and Zwade explore the opportunities and challenges that come with stepping beyond traditional career paths, building a personal brand, and using influence to educate, inspire, and empower others. They discuss the evolving role of physicians in the digital age, the responsibility that comes with visibility, and how authenticity can become a powerful leadership tool. Dr. Iggy also reflects on navigating criticism, embracing multiple passions, and creating a career that aligns with both purpose and personal fulfillment. At its core, this episode is about expanding the definition of what a physician can be. If you've ever felt called to pursue interests beyond clinical medicine—or wondered whether your ambitions have to fit within a single title—this conversation offers a compelling perspective on leadership, entrepreneurship, and building a life on your own terms. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter/X – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts Subscribe to stay up to date with the latest episodes.

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Iggy | The Reality Of Being Visible In Medicine

  3. May 27

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Josh Lumbley | Leveraging Clinical Expertise

    In this episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Dr. Josh Lumbley—physician, healthcare executive, and early Doc2Doc investor—for a conversation about leadership, innovation, and expanding the role physicians can play beyond the bedside. Josh shares his journey from clinical medicine into policy, operations, and executive leadership, including his work in congressional health policy and healthcare quality at scale. Together, they explore what it means for physicians to lead in the rooms where healthcare systems, accountability, and innovation are shaped—and why doctor-led innovation matters more than ever. At its core, this episode is about widening the lens of what a medical career can become. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter/X – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Josh Lumbley | Leveraging Clinical Expertise

  4. May 5

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall & Joel Tompkins CRNA, MSN | Anesthesia To Executive Leadership

    In the seventh episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Joel Tompkins, CRNA, MSN—an anesthesia leader and former executive at NorthStar Anesthesia—for a conversation on clinical care, leadership, and the systems that shape healthcare. Joel shares his journey from the OR to executive leadership, offering insight into scaling anesthesia organizations, navigating operational challenges, and the expanding role of CRNAs in shaping the future of care. They also explore the importance of financial literacy—an often overlooked skill that empowers clinicians to build impact beyond the bedside. At its core, this episode is about evolution—how clinicians grow into leaders and influence the future of healthcare. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall & Joel Tompkins CRNA, MSN | Anesthesia To Executive Leadership

  5. Apr 15

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr. Paul Tran | The Comedy And Chaos Of Medical Training

    In the sixth episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Dr. Paul Tran—pediatric gastroenterologist, educator, and creator of Alimentary School—for a conversation on the power of creativity in medicine. Dr. Tran shares how humor and storytelling can transform medical education, making complex concepts more relatable while helping trainees navigate uncertainty and imposter syndrome. Together, they explore the tension between tradition and innovation, and why embracing creativity can enhance—not hinder—clinical excellence. At its core, this episode is about finding your voice in medicine and using it to connect, teach, and lead. If you’ve ever questioned your path or struggled to stand out while staying authentic, this conversation is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr. Paul Tran | The Comedy And Chaos Of Medical Training

  6. Apr 8

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr. Ovu & Dr. Jimoh | Success Multiplies When Built Together

    In the fifth episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with two of his closest friends—Dr. Steven Ovu and Dr. Lanre Jimoh—for a powerful and personal conversation about friendship, identity, and the long road through medicine. More than colleagues, these three physicians share a decades-long bond that began before medicine—carrying them from immigrant beginnings and early ambition to leadership, entrepreneurship, and life beyond the hospital. Together, they reflect on the realities of building a career in medicine: the challenges of the immigrant experience, navigating training in a new country, and the importance of community along the way. They explore how mentorship, shared struggle, and intentional relationships shape not just careers—but entire lives. Dr. Ovu shares his journey into hospital medicine and leadership, while Dr. Jimoh discusses building a thriving private practice and creating opportunities through business. At its core, this episode is about the power of proximity—who you surround yourself with and how those relationships shape your path. Because success in medicine is rarely a solo journey. If you’ve ever wondered how friendships and community influence long-term success, this conversation is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr. Ovu & Dr. Jimoh | Success Multiplies When Built Together

  7. Mar 18

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr Leti & Dr. Kenji | Build Freedom Without Leaving Medicine

    In the fourth episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with physician entrepreneurs Leti and Kenji, founders of SemiRetiredMD, for a thoughtful and candid conversation about redefining success, reclaiming time, and building a life where medicine is meaningful—but not all-consuming. Together, they explore a question many physicians quietly carry: What happens when you stop asking, “How do I work harder?” and start asking, “How do I buy my time back?” Leti and Kenji share their journey through the traditional path of medicine—long hours, delayed gratification, and financial security that didn’t always translate into freedom. What began as simple curiosity about alternative paths evolved into a deeper pursuit of autonomy through real estate investing, where they discovered the power of exit optionality: creating income streams that offer choices, not constraints. The conversation expands into how that journey led to the creation of SemiRetiredMD, a community designed to help physicians learn real estate investing together. They unpack why financial education for doctors often falls short, the importance of learning from peers who understand the profession, and how belief, environment, and support can be just as critical as strategy. Dr. Marshall—himself an alumnus of the program—also shares perspective on access to capital, highlighting how partnerships like Doc2Doc Lending empower physicians to pursue opportunities while maintaining financial flexibility. At its core, this episode is about identity and permission—the permission to design a life where medicine is a foundation, not a limitation. Because success isn’t defined by how much you sacrifice—it’s defined by how intentionally you live. If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s possible to build freedom alongside your career in medicine, this episode is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Marshall, Dr Leti & Dr. Kenji | Build Freedom Without Leaving Medicine

  8. Mar 4

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Zach Meade | Battlefield To The Operating Room

    In the third episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Dr. Zach Meade—anesthesiologist, former U.S. Army Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) technician, electrical engineer, and digital educator—for a fascinating conversation about pressure, reinvention, and purpose. Before entering medicine, Dr. Meade spent years disarming explosives in the Army, where precision, discipline, and calm decision-making could mean the difference between life and death. In this episode, he reflects on how those experiences shaped the way he approaches anesthesiology today—bringing systems thinking, engineering logic, and structured leadership into the operating room. Together, they explore what it means to lead under pressure, how safety in medicine is often built through design and preparation, and why the operating room functions less like chaos and more like carefully coordinated choreography. The conversation also turns to Dr. Meade’s growing role as a physician creator. Through humor, storytelling, and clear explanations, he uses digital platforms to demystify anesthesia and combat medical misinformation. In a time when authority alone no longer builds trust, accessibility and authenticity are becoming just as important as expertise. At its core, this episode is about identity evolution—moving from soldier to engineer to physician to educator—and recognizing that the experiences we carry before medicine often become the foundation for how we practice it. If you’ve ever wondered how your life outside medicine shapes the doctor you become, this episode is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Zach Meade | Battlefield To The Operating Room

  9. Feb 18

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Eva Bonsu | Identity, Purpose, & Belonging

    In the second episode of Beyond the White Coat, Dr. Zwade Marshall sits down with Dr. Eva Bonsu—hospitalist, author, mentor, and digital storyteller—for a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about identity, purpose, and belonging in medicine. From her early life in Haiti to navigating medical training as a Black woman and immigrant in the U.S., Dr. Bonsu shares how who we are before medicine continues to shape who we become within it. Together, they explore representation, mentorship, and the quiet pressures many physicians face to assimilate rather than show up authentically. The conversation moves through hospitalist medicine, leadership at the bedside, physician well-being, and the realities of balancing medicine with motherhood and personal sustainability. Dr. Bonsu also reflects on storytelling, social media, and why authenticity—not perfection—is what truly resonates and creates impact. This isn’t about fitting the mold. It’s about understanding that there is no single “right” way to be a doctor—and that your story is not a liability, but a source of leadership. If you’ve ever questioned where you belong in medicine, felt unseen during training, or wondered how to build a career without erasing parts of yourself—this episode is for you. Follow us on social media: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok – https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter – https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Learn more about the podcast and upcoming episodes: https://www.doc2doclending.com/podcasts

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Eva Bonsu | Identity, Purpose, & Belonging

  10. Feb 3

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Kenton Allen | Founders of Doc2Doc Lending

    In the first episode of Beyond the White Coat, Doc2Doc founders Dr. Zwade Marshall and Dr. Kenton Allen have an honest, unscripted conversation about their journeys beyond training - and why this podcast exists. They reflect on what residency didn’t prepare them for: financial uncertainty, changing priorities, practice ownership, academic leadership, and the tradeoffs doctors don’t see early on. From learning money the hard way to building Doc2Doc out of lived frustration, this episode sets the tone for the show. This isn’t a finance podcast. It’s a journey podcast. If you’re questioning your path, early in training, or rethinking what life in medicine can look like - you’re not alone.Medicine doesn’t end at the white coat and your journey doesn’t have to look like anyone else’s. Follow us on social media: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/doc2doclending/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/doc2doclending TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@doc2doclending LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/doc2doclending/ Twitter - https://x.com/doc2doc_lending Follow to stay up to date with the latest episodes!

    Beyond The White Coat | Dr. Zwade Marshall & Dr. Kenton Allen | Founders of Doc2Doc Lending
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