SchoolStory by ROE #30

Journey12

SchoolStory is a ten-episode podcast series brought to you by Matthew Hickam, Regional Superintendent of ROE #30. The project is the audio companion piece to SchoolStory Magazine, and is intended to create greater awareness of our schools in the public mind and to start important conversations with and between members of our communities. SchoolStory is produced by Journey12, whose mission is to create greater connection between local schools and the communities they serve. In this series, we explore the role public schools play—not just in educating children, but in holding our communities together. Recorded across Southern Illinois and hosted by Craig Williams, these conversations bring together superintendents, regional leaders, educators, and partners who are doing the quiet, complicated work of leading schools in a time of change. This is not a podcast about slogans or silver bullets. It’s about proximity. Stewardship. Dignity. And the deeply human decisions that shape what school feels like for students, families, and communities long before the data ever catches up. Across the series, we explore why small schools still matter in an era of consolidation, how collaboration strengthens—not weakens—local identity, and what it really means to prepare students for a workforce that no longer fits a single narrative. We talk candidly about the future of teaching, the evolving convergence of trades and technology, and the invisible labor schools carry as hubs of care, connection, and continuity. You’ll hear honest conversations about equity and access as lived experiences, not abstractions. About leading amid public pushback without losing integrity. About mental health as essential to learning. About special education as a promise, not a program. And throughout it all, we return to a central truth: when schools don’t tell their stories, something else fills that space—and it’s rarely complete or fair. SchoolStory exists to share the important discussions local district leaders are having with one another—openly, thoughtfully, and across district lines—so communities can better understand what’s happening inside their schools, why it matters, and who it’s for. These are conversations rooted in Southern Illinois, but the questions they raise—about trust, belonging, leadership, and the future of public education—resonate far beyond any one region. At its heart, SchoolStory is an act of stewardship. A belief that schools are not just institutions, but human systems. And that telling their stories—carefully, consistently, and with integrity—is essential to the health of the communities they serve. We hope you’ll enjoy hearing from this group of hardworking leaders — all of whom are our Southern Illinois neighbors — from across the Region.

Episodes

  1. Feb 10

    The Power of Story: Shaping Public Perception of Public Education

    Over the past several episodes, we’ve sat down with educational leaders from across Southern Illinois to explore the challenges, the wins, the complexities, and the importance of a strong public education landscape across our region. Today’s conversation brings us to the close of this series—and fittingly, it centers on the thread that runs beneath every episode we’ve shared together: the power of story. Over the course of these conversations, we’ve talked about mental health, special education, recruiting and retaining educators, rural schools, leadership under pressure, and the fragile, essential work of trust. And underneath all of it—whether we named it or not—was story. The stories schools tell. The stories communities believe. And the stories that go untold when no one takes responsibility for sharing them. Every community holds a narrative about its schools. Some of it is shaped by lived experience. Some by rumor. Some by a single moment that grows legs and runs. And some by the quiet, extraordinary work happening every day behind classroom doors that most people never see. When schools don’t tell their stories, something else fills that space—and it’s rarely generous, complete, or fair. But when schools tell their stories thoughtfully, consistently, and with integrity, something powerful happens. Communities begin to see themselves reflected back. Trust grows. Misinformation loses oxygen. And the human side of public education comes back into focus. In this final episode, I’m joined by Matthew Hickam, Regional Superintendent of ROE 30; Kris Mason, Superintendent of Giant City School District; and Landon Summers, Superintendent of Century Unit District—leaders who understand that storytelling isn’t a public relations tactic. It’s stewardship. It’s how schools help communities understand what’s really happening, why it matters, and who it’s for. We talk about filling the vacuum before negativity does. About reaching the eighty percent of taxpayers who don’t have children in the schools but still care deeply about them. About why lived experience often carries more weight than data alone. And about how telling the right stories, at the right time, can strengthen morale, retention, and public trust. So, as we bring this series to a close, let’s take a look at why story matters—how it shapes perception—and what happens when schools reclaim their own narrative.

    39 min
  2. Feb 9

    Confrontation & Collaboration: Leading Schools Amid Public Push-back

    Leadership is often described in aspirational terms—vision, alignment, momentum, progress. But the truth is, leadership is more often forged in moments that feel uncomfortable, misunderstood, and, at times, deeply personal. In this episode, we’re stepping into that reality. We’re talking about confrontation and collaboration—not as opposing forces, but as twin responsibilities that today’s school leaders must hold at the same time. We’re talking about what happens when public trust feels frayed, when social media amplifies partial truths, and when leaders are asked to absorb criticism while still showing up with openness and integrity. Joining me today are Landon Summers, Superintendent of Century School District, and Connie Clendenin, Acting Superintendent of Elverado. Both lead in communities where people care deeply, speak plainly, and expect their leaders to be both accessible and authentic. You’ll hear them unpack what healthy confrontation really looks like. How emotional regulation matters more than winning an argument. Why transparency builds credibility—even when full disclosure isn’t possible. And how showing up—at a swim meet, a baptism, or a hard conversation—can quietly rebuild trust when words alone won’t. This is a conversation about leadership that doesn’t retreat from tension, but doesn’t weaponize it either. About holding boundaries without losing relationships. And about remembering that behind every critique is usually a person who just wants to be heard.

    40 min
  3. Feb 9

    From Trades to Tech — Preparing Students for a Changing Workforce

    For a long time in this country, we told a very narrow story about success. We didn’t always say it out loud, but the message was clear: a four-year degree was the destination — and everything else was a consolation prize. And while that story worked for some students, it quietly left a lot of capable, talented young people feeling unseen. But here’s the truth: while the narrative lagged, the world kept moving. The trades never disappeared. They just evolved. Welders became fabricators. Auto mechanics became diagnosticians. Manufacturing became precision-driven and data-informed. And now, as technology and AI accelerate across every sector, we’re watching trades and tech converge in ways that demand not less skill — but more. In this episode, we’re talking about what it really means to prepare students for a changing workforce — not by forcing them into a single mold, but by helping them discover a personal pathway to a productive future. You’ll hear from leaders who are closing exposure gaps, rethinking stigma, building regional collaboration, and — most importantly — restoring confidence to students who may not have always seen school as a place where they could thrive. This conversation is about dignity. It’s about relevance. And it’s about making sure that every student — whether headed toward a lab, a shop floor, a union hall, a college campus, or something we haven’t even named yet — knows that their future matters.

    52 min
  4. Feb 9

    Meeting Students Where They Are Through Equity, Access, and Dignity

    Today’s conversation is one that reaches far beyond policy or buzzwords—and into the lived reality of what school feels like for children and families navigating difference, belonging, and opportunity. We’re talking about equity and access—but not as an abstract framework. We’re talking about it as something you can see in a lunchroom. Feel in a hallway. Witness in the quiet courage of a child being fully themselves for the first time in a place that says, you belong here. In this episode, I’m joined by two extraordinary leaders: Dr. Andrea Evers, Superintendent of Murphysboro Unit District 186, and Dr. Yaa Appiah McNulty, Superintendent of Unity Point School District. Together, they lead in communities where diversity isn’t a talking point—it’s the daily fabric of school life. You’ll hear us explore how schools become safe harbors in shifting cultural tides, how access is created through partnerships with universities and unions, how leadership sometimes means standing firmly in uncomfortable moments, and why the strength of a school community might best be understood through an unlikely metaphor: a sheet of OSB—ordinary-looking, imperfect, but remarkably strong when every strand is pressed together with intention. This is a conversation about pressure, possibility, and the quiet work of building schools that don’t just educate—but protect, expand, and dignify the lives entrusted to them.

    55 min
  5. Feb 9

    Teaching in 2026 — Is it a Revolution? Is it the New Normal? (Or is it Both?)

    Today’s conversation lives right at the intersection of urgency and hope. Across Illinois — and really across the country — we’re facing a reality that can’t be ignored: fewer young people are choosing to become educators, veteran teachers are feeling the weight of the work more heavily than ever, and the narrative surrounding the profession has grown louder, harsher, and often unfairly narrow. And yet… something remarkable is still happening inside classrooms, inside colleges of education, and inside communities that refuse to let the story end there. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Victoria Grove Scott, Dean of the College of Education at Southern Illinois University Carbondale, and Diana Rea, Superintendent of Du Quoin Unit District 300. Together, they offer a candid, grounded look at what teaching looks like in 2026 — not just through the lens of recruitment and retention, but through dignity, relationships, structure, and belief in the work itself. We talk about why fewer people are being encouraged to teach… Why those who do choose the profession often do so despite the noise… And how instructional coaching, “grow-your-own” programs, and deeply human leadership are quietly rebuilding momentum from the inside out. This isn’t a conversation about slogans or silver bullets. It’s about what actually sustains educators — and what might just re-ignite a calling in a generation that’s being told, far too often, to look elsewhere.

    48 min

About

SchoolStory is a ten-episode podcast series brought to you by Matthew Hickam, Regional Superintendent of ROE #30. The project is the audio companion piece to SchoolStory Magazine, and is intended to create greater awareness of our schools in the public mind and to start important conversations with and between members of our communities. SchoolStory is produced by Journey12, whose mission is to create greater connection between local schools and the communities they serve. In this series, we explore the role public schools play—not just in educating children, but in holding our communities together. Recorded across Southern Illinois and hosted by Craig Williams, these conversations bring together superintendents, regional leaders, educators, and partners who are doing the quiet, complicated work of leading schools in a time of change. This is not a podcast about slogans or silver bullets. It’s about proximity. Stewardship. Dignity. And the deeply human decisions that shape what school feels like for students, families, and communities long before the data ever catches up. Across the series, we explore why small schools still matter in an era of consolidation, how collaboration strengthens—not weakens—local identity, and what it really means to prepare students for a workforce that no longer fits a single narrative. We talk candidly about the future of teaching, the evolving convergence of trades and technology, and the invisible labor schools carry as hubs of care, connection, and continuity. You’ll hear honest conversations about equity and access as lived experiences, not abstractions. About leading amid public pushback without losing integrity. About mental health as essential to learning. About special education as a promise, not a program. And throughout it all, we return to a central truth: when schools don’t tell their stories, something else fills that space—and it’s rarely complete or fair. SchoolStory exists to share the important discussions local district leaders are having with one another—openly, thoughtfully, and across district lines—so communities can better understand what’s happening inside their schools, why it matters, and who it’s for. These are conversations rooted in Southern Illinois, but the questions they raise—about trust, belonging, leadership, and the future of public education—resonate far beyond any one region. At its heart, SchoolStory is an act of stewardship. A belief that schools are not just institutions, but human systems. And that telling their stories—carefully, consistently, and with integrity—is essential to the health of the communities they serve. We hope you’ll enjoy hearing from this group of hardworking leaders — all of whom are our Southern Illinois neighbors — from across the Region.