The Strategic Pause

Katrina Kennedy and Jill Parish

Welcome to The Strategic Pause- Mildly Unhinged Learning and Development pros Katrina Kennedy and Jill Parish press pause on the endless to-do list to have the conversations that actually matter. In aviation and healthcare, a strategic pause can save lives. In business? We skip right past it. But not here. We're taking that pause to dig into what it really means to be in L&D—the work we do, the work people think we do, and why half the organization assumes we're the ones "who do all those trainings everyone hates." Katrina brings 26+ years training tens of thousands of learners and a recent book on making learning stick. Jill brings her experience as CEO/Founder of ThinkDev an organizational development consulting firm. Together, we're exploring everything from building real community in a virtual world to why we're all so bad at PowerPoint to what we actually do on "no real pants" days. Expect thoughtful conversations that veer into delightful tangents. Expect us to talk about books, reflection, neurodiversity, imposter syndrome, and the ridiculous things people think we can fix in half a day. Expect laughter (it's literally in our KPIs). This is for the L&D professionals, the CLOs, the trainers, the facilitators—the people who know that real learning happens in connection, not compliance modules. If you've ever had to explain what you do three times and still got it wrong, this podcast is for you.

  1. 2d ago

    What Makes Learning Transfer?

    In this episode, Katrina Kennedy, a certified transfer designer, shares insights on how to make learning transfer effective in organizations. We explore tools, strategies, and common pitfalls to ensure training translates into real-world application. Takeaways The difference between making something stick and transfer The 12 levers for effective transfer in training The importance of transfer tools and how to use them Organizational support and transfer expectations The role of active practice and reflection in transfer Common organizational pitfalls in training implementation Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Learning Transfer and Katrina's Certification 01:56 The Certification Process and Its Value 04:02 The Concept of Making Learning Transferable 06:01 The 15% Application Statistic and Transfer Tools 07:58 The Three Categories of Transfer Levers 10:01 Organizational Support and Transfer Expectations 11:55 Common Pitfalls in Organizational Learning 13:57 The Role of Leaders and Managers in Transfer 15:58 Designing for Transfer: Focus and Specificity 18:05 Creating a Learning Environment and Engagement 19:58 The Disconnect Between Training and Learning 21:58 Language and Terminology in Learning and Training 24:00 Practical Examples of Transfer and Training 26:03 The Importance of Organizational Systems and Structure 28:01 Revisiting the Concept of Learning as a Leadership Skill 29:59 Supporting Learners and Overcoming Overwhelm 31:58 The Future of Learning and Development 34:00 Closing Remarks and Key Takeaways 🎙️ Hosted by Katrina Kennedy & Jill Parish Connect with Katrina & Jill ThinkDev  Katrina Kennedy Training Linkedin: Katrina | Jill  #TheStrategicPause #ThinkDev #LearningAndDevelopment The Strategic Pause releases new episodes the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays wherever you get podcasts.

  2. Oct 27

    What About Generations? With Beth

    In this episode, we explore generational differences in the workplace, focusing on Generation Z, and discuss how understanding these differences can improve management and engagement strategies. Takeaways Generation Z values authenticity and work-life balance over traditional career ladders. Effective management involves understanding individual needs and providing clear expectations. Building genuine human connections can improve engagement across all generations. Stereotypes about Gen Z being lazy or overly dependent on technology are often inaccurate. Leaders should focus on showing respect and understanding to foster loyalty and productivity. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to generational differences in the workplace 02:12 How Generation Z describes their work values 04:13 Managing stereotypes and expectations of Gen Z 07:05 Job hopping and career mobility among young workers 09:27 What organizations get wrong about Gen Z 13:23 Connecting with Gen Z as whole persons 18:08 Advice for engaging and retaining Gen Z employees 21:33 Breaking down stereotypes about phone use and social media 25:29 The importance of clear communication and expectations 30:36 The value of authenticity and human connection in leadership 32:47 Leadership lessons from managing Gen Z 🎙️ Hosted by Katrina Kennedy & Jill Parish Connect with Katrina & Jill ThinkDev  Katrina Kennedy Training Linkedin: Katrina | Jill  #TheStrategicPause #ThinkDev #LearningAndDevelopment The Strategic Pause releases new episodes the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays wherever you get podcasts.

  3. Oct 13

    What’s Your Unique Ability (top of the scope)?

    In this episode, Katrina and Jill explore the concept of unique ability, how it relates to top of scope in healthcare, and how leaders can identify and leverage their strengths to improve performance and fulfillment. Takeaways Identifying your unique ability allows you to focus on what you do best and brings fulfillment. Leaders can unlock potential in their teams by recognizing and naming individual strengths. Delegating tasks outside of your unique ability frees you to focus on high-impact activities. Organizations should create pathways for technical experts to grow without necessarily moving into management. Effective leader onboarding includes skill-building for new roles to prevent role mismatch. Leaders have the power to change lives by helping others discover their unique abilities. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the episode and the concept of unique ability 02:04 The origin of the idea from the book 'Ten Times Easier Than Two Times' 03:52 Connecting unique ability to top of scope in healthcare 06:01 How to identify your own unique ability 07:56 The importance of leaders recognizing others' strengths 10:01 The impact of organizational culture on leveraging strengths 11:54 Challenges in role transition and role clarity 14:00 The role of leader development and coaching 15:55 What to give up to focus on your unique ability 17:51 The importance of delegation and role clarity 19:59 Overcoming fear of failure in pursuing your strengths 22:04 The significance of organizational pathways for technical experts 23:57 The power of recognizing and naming strengths in others 26:06 The role of team dynamics and strengths sharing 28:02 The importance of conversations with managers about strengths 29:58 Final thoughts and encouragement to discover your unique ability 🎙️ Hosted by Katrina Kennedy & Jill Parish Connect with Katrina & Jill ThinkDev  Katrina Kennedy Training Linkedin: Katrina | Jill  #TheStrategicPause #ThinkDev #LearningAndDevelopment The Strategic Pause releases new episodes the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays wherever you get podcasts.

  4. Sep 22

    What Are You Reading?

    In this episode, Jill and Katrina explore their reading habits, favorite books, and how reading intersects with life experiences. They share insights on book organization, finishing books, audiobooks, and the importance of reading for leadership and personal growth. Takeaways The importance of finishing books How reading influences leadership and personal development The impact of travel experiences on reading choices Strategies for choosing what to read and when to give up The role of books in building community and connection Insights from specific books like Anne Frank's diary and art history The mental models around consensus and decision-making in leadership Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Favorite Books and Organization Styles 01:55 The Significance of Book Organization and Aesthetics 03:53 Favorite Books and Personal Connections 06:06 Travel, History, and Personal Growth Through Reading 07:53 Reading in Different Life Stages and Contexts 10:01 Reading About Art and Travel Experiences 12:04 The Role of Connection and Community in Well-Being 14:07 Insights from Books on Leadership and Climate Change 16:06 The Science of Human Connection and Extroversion 18:03 Decision-Making, Consensus, and Leadership Insights 20:00 Reading Parameters, Habits, and Nighttime Reading 22:04 Audiobooks, Narration, and Listening Habits 23:53 Book Completion, Giving Up, and Personal Preferences 26:02 The Impact of Parenthood on Reading Habits 28:01 Strategies for Choosing and Finishing Books 29:58 Favorite Recent Reads and Recommendations 31:50 The Art of Audiobook Selection and Narrator Preferences 34:06 Emotional Impact of Books and Personal Reflection 35:50 Final Thoughts: The Importance of Reading for Leaders 🎙️ Hosted by Katrina Kennedy & Jill Parish Connect with Katrina & Jill ThinkDev  Katrina Kennedy Training Linkedin: Katrina | Jill  #TheStrategicPause #ThinkDev #LearningAndDevelopment The Strategic Pause releases new episodes the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays wherever you get podcasts.  Resources:The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank You're A Leader: Now What?  By Dr. Winters What if We Get It Right? By Ayana Elizabeth Johnson A little More Social by Nicholas Epley Winter Dance by Gary Paulsen 100 Years of Lenny and Margot 100 Minutes Minus Your age The Libby App: Libby - Welcome

  5. Jun 9

    What Stands Out from Season One of The Strategic Pause?

    In this reflective episode, hosts Jill Parish and Katrina Kennedy look back on their first season of the podcast, sharing insights, lessons learned, and plans for future episodes. They explore the value of reflection, the evolution of their content, and the importance of authenticity and fun in their work. Keywords podcast reflection, learning and development, episode review, host insights, future planning, authenticity, fun in work Key topics Reflection techniques and exercises Podcast evolution and learning Host insights on authenticity and fun takeaways Reflection helps us move forward by looking back. Our conversations felt natural and easy, fostering authenticity. Listeners' feedback confirms our content's impact. Planning and structure will enhance future episodes. Humor and authenticity are key to engagement. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Conversation 00:04 Exploring Key Themes 00:05 Season Reflection and Strategic Pauses 03:06 What Stood Out in the Podcast Journey 06:07 Emotional Takeaways from the Experience 09:08 Learning and Development Insights 12:06 Evolving Podcast Dynamics 15:05 Looking Forward to Season Two 19:14 Planning for Season Two 21:53 Balancing Structure and Enjoyment 24:48 Listener Engagement and Feedback 26:48 Reflecting on Podcast Journey 30:36 Embracing Imperfection and Growth 🎙️ Hosted by Katrina Kennedy & Jill Parish Connect with Katrina & Jill ThinkDev  Katrina Kennedy Training Linkedin: Katrina | Jill  #TheStrategicPause#ThinkDev #LearningAndDevelopment The Strategic Pause releases new episodes the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays wherever you get podcasts.

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Welcome to The Strategic Pause- Mildly Unhinged Learning and Development pros Katrina Kennedy and Jill Parish press pause on the endless to-do list to have the conversations that actually matter. In aviation and healthcare, a strategic pause can save lives. In business? We skip right past it. But not here. We're taking that pause to dig into what it really means to be in L&D—the work we do, the work people think we do, and why half the organization assumes we're the ones "who do all those trainings everyone hates." Katrina brings 26+ years training tens of thousands of learners and a recent book on making learning stick. Jill brings her experience as CEO/Founder of ThinkDev an organizational development consulting firm. Together, we're exploring everything from building real community in a virtual world to why we're all so bad at PowerPoint to what we actually do on "no real pants" days. Expect thoughtful conversations that veer into delightful tangents. Expect us to talk about books, reflection, neurodiversity, imposter syndrome, and the ridiculous things people think we can fix in half a day. Expect laughter (it's literally in our KPIs). This is for the L&D professionals, the CLOs, the trainers, the facilitators—the people who know that real learning happens in connection, not compliance modules. If you've ever had to explain what you do three times and still got it wrong, this podcast is for you.