The Space Between Venus and Mars

The Space Between Venus and Mars Podcast
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  • Relationships
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Join us every other week as we explore the evolving dynamics between men and women. Through honest conversations with experts, friends, and insights from books and films, we’ll take a thoughtful look at what shapes love and connection today. This isn’t about choosing sides or placing blame. It’s about curiosity. It’s about asking better questions, listening with openness, and trying to understand why finding love can feel so complicated in our time. Together, we’ll explore what’s really happening in the space between Venus and Mars.

Episodes

  1. 1d ago

    Light-Years Away: Slap Heard 'round the World

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we’re trying something a little different today! We’re traveling “Light-Years Away” to the year 2022 to reexamine the Will Smith Oscar’s slap towards Chris Rock.  We take a deep dive into the controversy surrounding the slap. We discuss the different challenges Will and Jada face in their Hollywood marriage. What motivated Will to go up on stage and slap Chris Rock? Was it his failing marriage with Jada? Was he defending Jada’s honor or simply serving his own self interest?  Chris and Jesi unpack some of the serious conversations surrounding the slap at the time. Did toxic masculinity need to be a main part of the conversation? Or did that make simple work of a complicated situation? Join us as we travel “Light-Years Away”…  Citations  “Watch the Uncensored Moment Will Smith Smacks Chris Rock on Stage at the Oscars, Drops F-Bomb.” Youtube, Guardian News , 27 Mar. 2022, www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8. Rashotte, Vivian. “Jada Pinkett Smith Opens up about the Oscars Slap - and Why It Brought Her Closer to Will Smith | CBC Arts.” CBCnews, CBC/Radio Canada, 18 Oct. 2023, www.cbc.ca/arts/q/jada-pinkett-smith-opens-up-about-oscars-slap-1.6995512. Collins, Riyah. “Will Smith: Oscars Slap Fallout Made Me Reflect, Says Star.” BBC News, BBC, 17 June 2025, www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qxgn37j43o. Garcia-Navarro, Lulu, et al. “Opinion | Four Opinion Writers on Will Smith’s Slap: ‘There Are No Heroes in This Story’ (Published 2022).” The New York Times Opinion , The New York Times, 3 Mar. 2022, www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-slap.html. Harper, Shaun. “Contributor: Will Smith’s Attack on Chris Rock Shows Toxic Masculinity Boiling Over.” Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles Times, 28 Mar. 2022, www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-03-28/will-smith-chris-rock-oscars-slap-toxic-masculinity. Buss, David M. The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating. Basic Books, 2016. All The Smoke. “Will Smith Opens up about the Oscars Slap.” YouTube, All the Smoke Productions , 8 Aug. 2025, youtube.com/shorts/EhKZMZD6j8Q?si=HgSSFlaw1F-G4QGe. Movies and Shows Referenced  G.I. Jane (1997) Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) The Real Housewives of New Jersey (2009-) Bojack Horseman (2014 - 2020)

    45 min

  2. May 23

    Not in My Media Silo

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we explore the concept of media silos—the personalized digital worlds created by our algorithms, interests, and online habits. From the content men are consuming to the content women are consuming, we examine how social media, podcasts, news, and influencers can shape entirely different perspectives on the same issues. With an infinite amount of content competing for our attention, algorithms are designed to keep us engaged—but are they also keeping us divided? We discuss how outrage, certainty, and polarization often outperform nuance, creating online spaces where complexity is flattened into opposing sides, and disagreement becomes a source of engagement. As our feeds become increasingly personalized, what happens to shared understanding? Are we choosing our media silos, or are they choosing us? We also consider an important question: Does it have to be this way? If technology can be designed to maximize engagement, could it also be designed to encourage curiosity, nuance, and meaningful dialogue?

    37 min

  3. May 9

    Performing Tradwifery

    In this episode of the Space Between Venus and Mars, we explore the growing online fascination with “tradwives” — women embracing or performing ideals tied to traditional femininity, homemaking, and domestic life. Inspired in part by the themes and imagery of Don’t Worry Darling, we examine the tension between authenticity and performance in the modern representation of womanhood. From carefully curated homes and routines to the expectation of maintaining peace, beauty, and order, we discuss how tradwife culture is presented online — and whether some of it becomes less about the lifestyle itself and more about the performance of it. We also unpack the idea of “mindless behavior”: the comfort of clearly defined roles, the appeal of simplicity, and the pressure to conform in an increasingly overwhelming world. What makes someone a tradwife? Is it the values, the lifestyle, the relationship dynamic… or the performance of it all? And in a culture where identity is constantly curated for an audience, where do authenticity and aesthetics begin to blur? Sources: Brown, Pamela. “ The ‘trad Wives’ Leaving High-Control Christian Nationalist Communities.” Youtube , CNN, 6 Apr. 2026, Accessed 2026. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dXBpWiwxkw Knight, Lucy. “My Month in the TRADWIFE World: ‘I Can’t Pretend I’m Not Enjoying Myself at All ...’” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 15 Apr. 2026, www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/apr/15/my-month-tradwife-world-cant-pretend-im-not-enjoying-myself. Murray, Jessica. “Gen Z Males Twice as Likely as Baby Boomers to Believe Wives Should Obey Husbands.” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 5 Mar. 2026, www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/05/gen-z-men-baby-boomers-wives-should-obey-husbands. Princess__d0ll. “Any advice for me for the future.” Reddit, 14 Apr. 2026,  https://www.reddit.com/r/tradwives/comments/1sl4ukn/any_advice_for_me_for_the_future/?solution=4bd94e09ed5837c14bd94e09ed5837c1&js_challenge=1&token=bbbe4bf1c9a2b5160829c4be34da5861286899018e7f9f77fb95b62ad8421d0f&jsc_orig_r= Smith, Nara. “Videos.” TikTok, 2026, https://www.tiktok.com/@naraazizasmith?lang=en Movies and Shows Referenced  Don’t Worry Darling (2022) Lessons in Chemistry (2023) Modern Family (2009-2020) Paris is Burning (1990) The Handmaid’s Tale (2017-2025) The Stepford Wives (2004)

    52 min

  4. Apr 25

    Worthy to be Ready

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we explore the space between wanting love and believing we’re truly ready to receive it. Both men and women express the desire for connection, yet many struggle to fully step into relationships — not just because of timing, but because of deeper feelings of insecurity, avoidance, and self-doubt. We unpack the patterns that can hold people back, from fear of vulnerability to self-sabotaging behaviors, and question whether readiness is always about external circumstances — or something more internal. Are we waiting for the right person… or waiting to feel worthy enough for the relationship we say we want? Sources: Real, Terrence. How Can I Get through to You?: Closing the Intimacy Gap between Men and Women. Fireside, 2003.  Tanner, Birgit, and Carsten Gutschmidt. “Riddle of the Bones: Gender Revolution .” Gender Revolution: The Real Role Of Ancient Women, Parable - Free History Documentaries, 6 Mar. 2026, www.youtube.com/watch?v=pncJqguYHjQ Buss, David M. The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating. Basic Books, 2016. Smith, Brian, and Chris Coelen. Love Is Blind , Season 10, episode Love is Blind, Netflix

    46 min

  5. Apr 11

    Beauty is Pain... and Looksmaxxing

    In this episode of the Space Between Venus and Mars, we explore the rise of “looksmaxxing” — a growing trend, largely among men, focused on maximizing physical appearance to increase attractiveness. From strict routines to highly specific ideals around facial proportions and symmetry, we examine the lengths some are willing to go to attract a partner. But is this really new? We compare looksmaxxing to the beauty standards and expectations women have been navigating for years — from appearance-focused pressures to the pursuit of an “ideal.” In doing so, we ask whether this trend highlights a shared experience rather than a divide. Sources: Farrell, Riley. "Inside looksmaxxing, the extreme cosmetic social media trend." BBC, 26 March 2024, https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240326-inside-looksmaxxing-the-extreme-cosmetic-social-media-trend Bernstein, Joseph. "Handsome at Any Cost." The New York Times, 13 February 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/13/style/clavicular-looksmaxxing-braden-peters.html?searchResultPosition=2 Parham, Jackson. "Confessions of a Black Looksmaxxer." Wired, 23 September 2025. https://www.wired.com/story/confessions-of-a-black-looksmaxxer/ Buss, David M. "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating. " Basic Books, 2016. Berger, John. "Ways of Seeing." British Broadcasting Corporation and Penguin Books, 2008.  Theroux, Louis, director. "Louis Theroux: Inside the Manosphere." Netflix, 2026.  Luse, Brittany, Rose, Corey Antonio, Pathak, Neena. "Young Women are struggling too. Why can't we see it?" 13 March 2026. https://www.npr.org/2026/03/13/nx-s1-5746167/young-women-are-struggling-too-why-cant-we-see-it

    35 min

  6. Mar 28

    Can Men and Women be friends?

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we revisit the cultural legacy of When Harry Met Sally and its lasting influence on how we think about male-female relationships. From emotional intimacy to unspoken attraction, we explore the tension that can exist within these friendships and why this question continues to spark debate. We also look beyond modern dating and into the past, exploring the ancient Greek concept of multiple forms of love — from friendship and desire to deeper, more enduring connections — and how these ideas still echo in the way we form relationships today. Sources: Doidge, Kristin Marguerite. “When Rob Reiner’s Alter Ego (Harry) Met Nora Ephron’s Alter Ego (Sally).” Literary Hub, 21 June 2022, lithub.com/when-rob-reiners-alter-ego-harry-met-nora-ephrons-alter-ego-sally/ “Can Men and Women Be Just Friends?” The Economist, The Economist , 19 June 2026, www.economist.com/international/2025/06/19/can-men-and-women-be-just-friends  Albatross, Hero Member. “The Ancient Greeks Recognized 7 Types of Love – Which Defines You?” The Ancient Greeks Recognized 7 Types of Love – Which Defines You?, The Hero’s Spouse - Midlife Crisis: For Those Left Behind, 10 May 2017, mlcforum.theherosspouse.com/index.php?topic=9024.0 Larson, Vicki. “How Men and Women Can Be Friends (without Sex Getting in the Way).” Greater Good Magazine , Greater Good Magazine: Science Based Insights for a Meaningful Life  , 3 July 2024, greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_men_and_women_can_be_friends Brake , Elizabeth. “Amatonormativity.” Elizabeth Brake, elizabethbrake.com, 9 Oct. 2023, elizabethbrake.com/amatonormativity/.  Hanson, Joe. “ Why Your Grandmother Is an Evolutionary Mystery.” Be Smart , Be Smart PBS on YouTube, 21 Mar. 2025, www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKLwzmjfcW4

    30 min

  7. Mar 14

    From PUA to GPT

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we revisit the world of pickup artist culture and the ideas that shaped it - from confidence tactics and attraction techniques to so-called "mating strategies." We explore why these approaches appealed to men struggling on the dating scene and how they promised a formula for confidence and connection. We also examine how some of these same dynamics continue to appear in modern dating culture, often in new forms - including the growing role of AI in helping people navigate conversations and capture attention in digital spaces. Sources: Buss, David M. The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating. Basic Books, 2016. The Pickup Artist, 3Ball Productions, August 6, 2007 – November 30, 2008 “Michael Pollan Says Humanity Is About to Undergo a Revolutionary Change”, The Interview 7 February 2026 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/07/magazine/michael-pollan-interview.html "‘I realised I’d been ChatGPT-ed into bed’: how ‘Chatfishing’ made finding love on dating apps even weirder" https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/oct/12/chatgpt-ed-into-bed-chatfishing-on-dating-apps

    21 min

  8. Feb 28

    Love is Embarrassing

    In this episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we unpack a recent cultural shift that has been quietly reshaping modern relationships. From heterofatalism and constant rejection to the pressure of appearing fiercely independent and self-sustaining. Inspired by the Vogue article that sparked debate about boyfriends, we explore why some women feel the need to “hide” their partners, downplay their relationships, or protect the image of independence at all costs. Sources: Chanté Joseph⁠. "Is Having a Boyfriend Embarrassing Now?" Vogue, October 2025, https://www.vogue.com/article/is-having-a-boyfriend-embarrassing-now The End of Love: A Sociology of Negative Relations Book by Eva Illouz   Brittany Luse, Ramtin Arablouei , Barton Girdwood, Neena Pathak “Cringe culture says stop. We say lean in.” It’s Been a Minute, August 2025, https://www.npr.org/2025/08/20/nx-s1-5507263/it-pays-to-be-cringe-lean-in

    33 min
  9. Understanding the Scripts

    Feb 14

    Understanding the Scripts

    In our first episode of The Space Between Venus and Mars, we explore the cultural evolution of relationships. Through curiosity rather than criticism, we examine the growing emotional gap between men and women, and the struggle many face when trying to build something meaningful. Sources:  The End of Love: A Sociology of Negative Relations Book by Eva Illouz The Will to Change Book by Bell Hooks How Can I Get Through to You? Closing the Intimacy Gap Between Men and Women By Terry Real I Don’t Want to Talk About: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male DepressionBy Terry Real

    25 min
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Join us every other week as we explore the evolving dynamics between men and women. Through honest conversations with experts, friends, and insights from books and films, we’ll take a thoughtful look at what shapes love and connection today. This isn’t about choosing sides or placing blame. It’s about curiosity. It’s about asking better questions, listening with openness, and trying to understand why finding love can feel so complicated in our time. Together, we’ll explore what’s really happening in the space between Venus and Mars.

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