The Spiral | The Science of Stress, Burnout, and Why You Feel the Way You Feel

Lauren Tobey

You're exhausted in a way that sleep doesn't fix. You snap at the people you love and spend the rest of the night wondering what's wrong with you. You've read the books, tried the breathwork, done the therapy — and you still feel stuck, flat, or like you're watching your own life instead of living it. Nothing is wrong with you. Your nervous system is doing exactly what it was designed to do. And nobody ever taught you how it works. The Spiral is hosted by Lauren Tobey — author of Spiraling Into Control and creator of The Spiral Framework. Each week, she breaks down the real science behind stress, burnout, overwhelm, and the patterns that keep showing up in your parenting, your relationships, your career, and your identity — without toxic positivity, without self-improvement pressure, and without ever calling you broken. The Spiral Framework maps four nervous system states you cycle through repeatedly throughout your life. You will return to familiar ground. You will return with more awareness. And you will rise faster each time. That's a promise, not a warning. New episodes every Tuesday. 📖 Book: Spiraling Into Control — https://a.co/d/0cX7rkSj 🌀 Learn more: laurentobey.com/connect

  1. May 28

    Mental Health Awareness Month — And Other Things the Wellness Industry Sells You

    In 1953, Mental Health America cast a three-hundred-pound bell from the chains and shackles used to physically restrain patients in psychiatric asylums. Seventy-three years later, what Mental Health Awareness Month has become is a candle on the end-cap at the mall. In this episode, I take apart what happened between the bell and the candle — and what an actual awareness month would do if it weren’t being run by marketers. For the woman who’s been doing the work all month and feels weirder about May than she did when it started. Timestamps 00:01-01:04 Introduction to Mental Health Awareness Month 01:06-02:01 The Bell and Its Significance 02:05-03:52 Cultural Shift from Bell to Candle 04:13-05:34 The Original Purpose of Awareness 05:34-07:16 Current State of Mental Health Awareness 07:39-09:42 The Performance of Awareness Months 10:09-13:59 Supporting Mental Health Beyond Awareness 14:00-16:54 Diagnostic Erasure and Pharmaceutical Influence 17:26-19:45 What True Awareness Should Look Like 21:30-25:38 Personal Reflection and Call to Action Listen On (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube) Subscribe, rate, and leave a review. That’s how more women find it. Find More from Lauren on Substack 📖 Spiraling Into Control About the Show The Spiral is a podcast about complex trauma, nervous system literacy, and the women who got told their pain didn’t count. Trauma-informed coach and author Lauren Tobey walks you through the Spiral Framework — the four states (Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise), the threat and safety databases your body has been running without your permission, and the Machine that’s been making your decisions while you thought you were. Keywords complex trauma podcast, cPTSD, nervous system regulation, trauma-informed coaching, polyvagal theory, women’s mental health, high-functioning anxiety, freeze response, dorsal vagal shutdown, fawn response, people pleasing recovery, codependency recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, gaslighting recovery, mom burnout, perimenopause and trauma, ADHD misdiagnosis, BPD misdiagnosis, autism in women, childhood emotional neglect, attachment trauma, intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, hypervigilance, dissociation, Spiraling Into Control, the Spiral Framework, Ashes Ember Flame Rise, Lauren Tobey

    26 min
  2. May 26

    "I Don't Know Who I Am Anymore"

    There’s a version of you that’s been running every interaction you have, every day, for as long as you can remember. She’s the one who smiles before she walks in the room. She’s the one who reads the room in three seconds and adjusts. She’s the one your husband married, the one your mother brags about, the one your kids think is their mom. She is not you. She is the costume. Timestamps 00:00 Unmasking the Costume 08:01 The Mechanism of the Costume 16:03 The Cost of Wearing a Costume 24:51 The Journey of Unraveling Listen On (Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Youtube) Subscribe, rate, and leave a review. That’s how more women find it. Find More from Lauren on Substack 📖 Spiraling Into Control About the Show The Spiral is a podcast about complex trauma, nervous system literacy, and the women who got told their pain didn’t count. Trauma-informed coach and author Lauren Tobey walks you through the Spiral Framework — the four states of survival and integration (Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise), the threat and safety databases your body has been running without your permission, and the Machine that’s been making your decisions while you thought you were. This is for the woman who’s been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, ADHD, or borderline when what was actually happening was a nervous system response to sustained relational harm. The one who looks high-functioning and is internally on a back porch staring at nothing. Who’s been told she’s so strong by people who have no idea what she’s carrying. Who’s tired of being told her trauma is a gift and her body is wrong. It counts because your nervous system counted it. That’s the whole thesis. Keywords complex trauma podcast, cPTSD, nervous system regulation, trauma-informed coaching, polyvagal theory, somatic healing, women’s mental health, burnout recovery, high-functioning anxiety, freeze response, dorsal vagal shutdown, fawn response, people pleasing recovery, codependency recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, emotional abuse, gaslighting recovery, divorce recovery, postpartum mental health, mom burnout, perimenopause and trauma, ADHD misdiagnosis, BPD misdiagnosis, autism in women, late-diagnosed neurodivergent, childhood emotional neglect, attachment trauma, intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, purity culture recovery, deconstruction, hypervigilance, dissociation, emotional flashbacks, nervous system literacy, Spiraling Into Control, the Spiral Framework, Ashes Ember Flame Rise, Lauren Tobey

    34 min
  3. May 21

    The Long Weekend Lie

    Memorial Day weekend is being sold to you as rest. Your body knows it isn’t. The Maycember-depleted nervous system that walked into Friday is going to walk out of Monday more depleted, more dysregulated, more confused about why you can’t enjoy what you have. And then you’re going to blame yourself for it. In this episode, I take apart the structural lie that time off equals rest, name the cultural dissonance baked into Memorial Day specifically (a holiday for the war dead repackaged as the unofficial start of summer), and give you one operational handle for the three days: subtract the performance, keep the presence. For the woman going into the long weekend already at zero. The Spiral with Lauren Tobey — the science of stress, burnout, identity, and why you feel the way you feel. For the woman who's done everything right and still doesn't feel like herself. Here, we finally figure out why. Timestamps Chapters 00:00 The Illusion of Long Weekends 02:23 Cultural Dissonance of Memorial Day 04:49 The Burden of Performance 06:54 Understanding Rest vs. Performance 09:05 Navigating Family Expectations 11:37 The Impact of Social Media 14:04 The Aftermath of Long Weekends 16:22 Rebuilding Your Nervous System 18:35 Permission to Not Enjoy 20:30 The Work Beyond the Weekend Find More from Lauren on Substack 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR About the Show The Spiral with Lauren Tobey is a podcast about complex trauma, nervous system literacy, and the women who got told their pain didn’t count. Trauma-informed coach and author Lauren Tobey walks you through the Spiral Framework — the four states of survival and integration (Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise), the threat and safety databases your body has been running without your permission, and the Machine that’s been making your decisions while you thought you were making them. This is for the woman who’s been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, ADHD, or borderline when what was actually happening was a nervous system response to sustained relational harm. The woman who looks high-functioning and is internally on a back porch staring at nothing. The woman who’s been told she’s so strong by people who have no idea what she’s carrying. The woman who’s tired of being told her trauma is a gift, her pain is a teacher, and her body is wrong. Keywords complex trauma podcast, cPTSD, nervous system regulation, trauma-informed coaching, polyvagal theory, somatic healing, women's mental health, burnout recovery, high-functioning anxiety, freeze response, dorsal vagal shutdown, fawn response, people pleasing recovery, codependency recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, emotional abuse, gaslighting recovery, divorce recovery, postpartum mental health, mom burnout, working mom burnout, perimenopause and trauma, ADHD misdiagnosis, BPD misdiagnosis, autism in women, late-diagnosed neurodivergent, childhood emotional neglect, attachment trauma, intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, purity culture recovery, deconstruction, ex-evangelical, anti-wellness industry, anti-toxic positivity, anti-hustle culture, alternative, somatic experiencing, IFS adjacent, parts work, vagus nerve, window of tolerance, hypervigilance, dissociation, emotional flashbacks, complex PTSD recovery for women, nervous system literacy, trauma education

    24 min
  4. May 19

    "You're So Strong" — And Other Stupid Things People Say to Women in Shutdown

    You woke up at six, made the lunches, answered the email, and showed up to the meeting with the right answers. Yet, somewhere underneath all of it, the woman doing the showing up cannot remember the last time she actually felt something. This is what high-functioning shutdown looks like — and your nervous system has been running it for longer than you think. The Spiral with Lauren Tobey — the science of stress, burnout, identity, and why you feel the way you feel. For the woman who's done everything right and still doesn't feel like herself. Here, we finally figure out why. Timestamps 00:00 Understanding Shutdown vs. Collapse 09:24 The Mechanism of Shutdown 17:26 The Cost of Functioning in Shutdown 25:22 Recognizing and Naming Shutdown Find More from Lauren on Substack 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR About the Show The Spiral with Lauren Tobey is a podcast about complex trauma, nervous system literacy, and the women who got told their pain didn’t count. Trauma-informed coach and author Lauren Tobey walks you through the Spiral Framework — the four states of survival and integration (Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise), the threat and safety databases your body has been running without your permission, and the Machine that’s been making your decisions while you thought you were making them. This is for the woman who’s been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, ADHD, or borderline when what was actually happening was a nervous system response to sustained relational harm. The woman who looks high-functioning and is internally on a back porch staring at nothing. The woman who’s been told she’s so strong by people who have no idea what she’s carrying. The woman who’s tired of being told her trauma is a gift, her pain is a teacher, and her body is wrong. It counts because your nervous system counted it. That’s the whole thesis. Twice a week — teaching episodes on Tuesdays, cultural commentary on Thursdays — Lauren names what the wellness industry won’t, takes apart what the diagnostic system gets wrong, and gives you the language you’ve been looking for. No five-step plans. No healing journey. No silver linings. Just the science, the framework, and the conversation that gets you back to yourself. Keywords complex trauma podcast, cPTSD, nervous system regulation, trauma-informed coaching, polyvagal theory, somatic healing, women's mental health, burnout recovery, high-functioning anxiety, freeze response, dorsal vagal shutdown, fawn response, people pleasing recovery, codependency recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, emotional abuse, gaslighting recovery, divorce recovery, postpartum mental health, mom burnout, working mom burnout, perimenopause and trauma, ADHD misdiagnosis, BPD misdiagnosis, autism in women, late-diagnosed neurodivergent, childhood emotional neglect, attachment trauma, intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, purity culture recovery, deconstruction, ex-evangelical, anti-wellness industry, anti-toxic positivity, anti-hustle culture, The Body Keeps the Score, Bessel van der Kolk, Gabor Maté, Nicole LePera, Bethany Webster, Glennon Doyle, mother wound, daughter wound, inner child work alternative, somatic experiencing, IFS adjacent, parts work, vagus nerve, window of tolerance, hypervigilance, dissociation, emotional flashbacks, complex PTSD recovery for women, nervous system literacy, trauma education, Spiraling Into Control, the Spiral Framework, the four states, Ashes Ember Flame Rise, integration not healing, Lauren Tobey

    28 min
  5. May 14

    Maycember - Subtracting to Stay Present

    Lauren Tobey shares how “Maycember” overloads moms with last-minute school logistics.  Download When You're Too Numb To Cry - https://www.laurentobey.com/connect Connect 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR 🎧 Read With Me — Chapter-by-chapter companion audio: https://www.laurentobey.com/readwithme 📱 The Spiral App — $97 lifetime access: https://www.laurentobey.com/spiralapp    📰 The Spiral Letter — Weekly email, every Tuesday: https://www.laurentobey.com/newsletter Website: laurentobey.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurentobeyspiral/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@laurentobeyspiral YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaurenTobeySpiral Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurentobeyspiral/ About This Episode Lauren Tobey shares how “Maycember” overloads moms with last-minute school logistics—field day snow-cone cash, volunteer pressure conflicting with meetings, a graduation gown that must be washed and ironed, an unannounced half day, and demanding teacher appreciation requests—while they’re already running at zero capacity. She argues typical self-care and boundary advice fails when the mandatory tasks can’t be dropped, because the real problem is a system that turns schools into event factories and pushes moms into survival-mode performance. Her Maycember-specific move is to subtract the performance, not the tasks: keep presence for kids while dropping perfection extras (cute outfits, posters, ironing, over-volunteering). She offers three moves: remove one performance per event, name guilt as “the machine,” and make one daily micro-deposit to stay grounded and intact through May. Timestamps 00:00 May Chaos Week 02:03 Maycember Explained 04:34 System Not Self Care 07:28 Why Advice Fails 08:04 Subtract Performance 10:46 Keep Presence 15:13 Three Maycember Moves 18:54 Permission To Do Less 20:24 In It Too 21:32 Free Guide Offer 22:17 June Is Coming About The Spiral Podcast The Spiral Podcast is where the work breathes out loud. Each episode expands what the writing opens — through lived experience, nervous system science, and the kind of conversation that happens at the kitchen table after the kids are asleep. Hosted by Lauren Tobey, author of Spiraling Into Control and creator of The Spiral Framework. New episodes every Tuesday. Keywords nervous system, trauma, spiraling, The Spiral Framework, Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise, survival mode, nervous system regulation, complex trauma, cPTSD, identity erosion, relational trauma, high-functioning, polyvagal, nervous system states, Lauren Tobey, Spiraling Into Control If This Episode Landed Leave a review. A few honest sentences help the algorithm put this podcast in front of the woman who's searching for exactly what you found. Then share it with the woman you thought of. That's how she finds it.

    23 min
  6. May 12

    Navigating the Ashes: Rebuilding Safety and Trust in Yourself

    You've been doing the brave things. The hard conversations. The boundary you finally set. The text you sent without editing four times. And every time you do one of them, you wait to feel relief — and the relief doesn't come. You feel confused. You feel weirdly off. And you decide you must have done it wrong. You didn't do it wrong. The confusion is the recording. The confusion is the proof. The Spiral with Lauren Tobey — the science of stress, burnout, identity, and why you feel the way you feel. For the woman who's done everything right and still doesn't feel like herself. Here, we finally figure out why. Timestamps 00:00 Mom Calls It Out 03:32 Recap The Machine 07:40 Why Self Care Fails 08:50 Safety Feels Confusing 11:08 A Real Safety Moment 14:09 Relief Versus Deposit 17:14 Three Filing Criteria 24:20 Right Size The Move 30:59 Three Moves In Ashes 37:27 Nova Support Tool 39:24 Ashes Final Takeaway Find More from Lauren on Substack 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR About the Show The Spiral with Lauren Tobey is a podcast about complex trauma, nervous system literacy, and the women who got told their pain didn’t count. Trauma-informed coach and author Lauren Tobey walks you through the Spiral Framework — the four states of survival and integration (Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise), the threat and safety databases your body has been running without your permission, and the Machine that’s been making your decisions while you thought you were making them. This is for the woman who’s been diagnosed with anxiety, depression, ADHD, or borderline when what was actually happening was a nervous system response to sustained relational harm. The woman who looks high-functioning and is internally on a back porch staring at nothing. The woman who’s been told she’s so strong by people who have no idea what she’s carrying. The woman who’s tired of being told her trauma is a gift, her pain is a teacher, and her body is wrong. It counts because your nervous system counted it. That’s the whole thesis. Twice a week — teaching episodes on Tuesdays, cultural commentary on Thursdays — Lauren names what the wellness industry won’t, takes apart what the diagnostic system gets wrong, and gives you the language you’ve been looking for. No five-step plans. No healing journey. No silver linings. Just the science, the framework, and the conversation that gets you back to yourself. Keywords complex trauma podcast, cPTSD, nervous system regulation, trauma-informed coaching, polyvagal theory, somatic healing, women's mental health, burnout recovery, high-functioning anxiety, freeze response, dorsal vagal shutdown, fawn response, people pleasing recovery, codependency recovery, narcissistic abuse recovery, emotional abuse, gaslighting recovery, divorce recovery, postpartum mental health, mom burnout, working mom burnout, perimenopause and trauma, ADHD misdiagnosis, BPD misdiagnosis, autism in women, late-diagnosed neurodivergent, childhood emotional neglect, attachment trauma, intergenerational trauma, religious trauma, purity culture recovery, deconstruction, ex-evangelical, anti-wellness industry, anti-toxic positivity, anti-hustle culture, mother wound, daughter wound, inner child work alternative, somatic experiencing, IFS adjacent, parts work, vagus nerve, window of tolerance, hypervigilance, dissociation, emotional flashbacks, complex PTSD recovery for women, nervous system literacy, trauma education, Spiraling Into Control, the Spiral Framework, the four states, Ashes Ember Flame Rise, integration not healing, Lauren Tobey

    41 min
  7. May 7

    Your Label Is Destroying You (But That's Not the Real Issue)

    About This Episode It Wasn’t That Bad: When “Trauma Is Overused” Becomes a New Way to Silence You Connect 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR 🎧 Read With Me — Chapter-by-chapter companion audio: https://www.laurentobey.com/readwithme 📱 The Spiral App — $97 lifetime access: https://www.laurentobey.com/spiralapp    📰 The Spiral Letter — Weekly email, every Tuesday: https://www.laurentobey.com/newsletter Website: laurentobey.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurentobeyspiral/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@laurentobeyspiral YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaurenTobeySpiral Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurentobeyspiral/ About This Episode Lauren Tobey responds to a Guardian-style backlash, arguing that “trauma” has become a brand and that labels themselves are harmful. She agrees that the trauma economy can flatten the world and that living inside any label can stall identity, but warns that the cultural pivot from “overused labels” to “the experience is overstated” recreates the old silencing message: “It wasn’t that bad.” She distinguishes acknowledgment—an accurate, often private naming that “it counts”—from residence, where a label becomes a permanent identity. Tobey argues that articles that use the same critique for people performing pain and for high-functioning women finally finding language for slow, cumulative harm are dangerous. She defines what “counts” as whatever fundamentally changes how you live, and urges listeners to name their truth without moving into it, using The Spiral process to move from awareness and research to action. Timestamps 00:00 Trauma as a Brand 01:24 Labels Can Trap You 03:04 Backlash Against Trauma 04:42 When Critique Becomes Dismissal 06:01 My cPTSD Label Stage 07:08 Awareness Is Not Healing 11:07 It Wasn't That Bad 13:51 Acknowledgment vs. Residence 21:24 Who the Backlash Hurts 25:32 What Counts as Trauma 27:44 My Study Abroad Example 32:00 Hold the Word and Move 36:19 Spiral Guide and Wrap Up About The Spiral Podcast The Spiral Podcast is where the work breathes out loud. Each episode expands what the writing opens — through lived experience, nervous system science, and the kind of conversation that happens at the kitchen table after the kids are asleep. Hosted by Lauren Tobey, author of Spiraling Into Control and creator of The Spiral Framework. New episodes every Tuesday. Keywords nervous system, trauma, spiraling, The Spiral Framework, Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise, survival mode, nervous system regulation, complex trauma, cPTSD, identity erosion, relational trauma, high-functioning, polyvagal, nervous system states, Lauren Tobey, Spiraling Into Control If This Episode Landed Leave a review. A few honest sentences help the algorithm put this podcast in front of the woman who's searching for exactly what you found. Then share it with the woman you thought of. That's how she finds it.

    37 min
  8. May 5

    Breaking the Machine: Why Letting Your Nervous System Live On Auto Reply Fails Every Time

    Lauren explains that the nervous system pattern-matches past experiences in microseconds, often overriding logic and personal preferences, especially after long periods of survival mode, grief, or identity confusion that leave the safety database sparse. Connect 📖 Spiraling Into Control https://amzn.to/4bbYsfR 🎧 Read With Me — Chapter-by-chapter companion audio: https://www.laurentobey.com/readwithme 📱 The Spiral App — $97 lifetime access: https://www.laurentobey.com/spiralapp    📰 The Spiral Letter — Weekly email, every Tuesday: https://www.laurentobey.com/newsletter Website: laurentobey.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurentobeyspiral/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@laurentobeyspiral YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaurenTobeySpiral Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/laurentobeyspiral/ About This Episode Lauren Tobey shares how an automatic apology at a Target self-checkout revealed “the machine,” a nervous system-driven pattern of fast, approval-seeking responses built from a threat database that prioritizes others’ comfort. She explains that the nervous system pattern-matches past experiences in microseconds, often overriding logic and personal preferences, especially after long periods of survival mode, grief, or identity confusion that leave the safety database sparse. The machine isn’t the enemy—it has earned praise and kept life functioning—but it can block access to an authentic voice. Lauren describes a CEO retreat where she briefly paused and voiced disagreement, then recorded the non-threatening outcome as a safety deposit. She defines capacity as the widening gap that allows substitution—catching “I’m fine” and replacing it with honest, low-stakes truth—one sentence at a time, while acknowledging grief and relationship changes as the mask loosens. Timestamps 00:00 Target Self Checkout Apology 01:13 Meet The Machine 01:42 Nervous System Pattern Matching 04:01 Threat Versus Safe Databases 06:29 Gold Stars And Overfunctioning 08:19 Finding A Micro Pause 08:37 CEO Retreat Speaking Up 11:57 Your Voice Underneath 15:00 Grief When The Mask Drops 17:11 Practical Glitching Practice 19:35 Closing Encouragement And Outro About The Spiral Podcast The Spiral Podcast is where the work breathes out loud. Each episode expands what the writing opens — through lived experience, nervous system science, and the kind of conversation that happens at the kitchen table after the kids are asleep. Hosted by Lauren Tobey, author of Spiraling Into Control and creator of The Spiral Framework. New episodes every Tuesday. Keywords nervous system, trauma, spiraling, The Spiral Framework, Ashes, Ember, Flame, Rise, survival mode, nervous system regulation, complex trauma, cPTSD, identity erosion, relational trauma, high-functioning, polyvagal, nervous system states, Lauren Tobey, Spiraling Into Control If This Episode Landed Leave a review. A few honest sentences help the algorithm put this podcast in front of the woman who's searching for exactly what you found. Then share it with the woman you thought of. That's how she finds it.

    21 min

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You're exhausted in a way that sleep doesn't fix. You snap at the people you love and spend the rest of the night wondering what's wrong with you. You've read the books, tried the breathwork, done the therapy — and you still feel stuck, flat, or like you're watching your own life instead of living it. Nothing is wrong with you. Your nervous system is doing exactly what it was designed to do. And nobody ever taught you how it works. The Spiral is hosted by Lauren Tobey — author of Spiraling Into Control and creator of The Spiral Framework. Each week, she breaks down the real science behind stress, burnout, overwhelm, and the patterns that keep showing up in your parenting, your relationships, your career, and your identity — without toxic positivity, without self-improvement pressure, and without ever calling you broken. The Spiral Framework maps four nervous system states you cycle through repeatedly throughout your life. You will return to familiar ground. You will return with more awareness. And you will rise faster each time. That's a promise, not a warning. New episodes every Tuesday. 📖 Book: Spiraling Into Control — https://a.co/d/0cX7rkSj 🌀 Learn more: laurentobey.com/connect

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