Iconic Sonics

Iconic Sonics

Iconic Sonics celebrates the history of the great Seattle SuperSonics while also covering the NBA's potential expansion, and the return of the team to Seattle.

  1. 5d ago

    The $17 Billion Dollar Question: How Much Will It Cost to Bring Back the Sonics? with Kurt Badenhausen & Charting Hoops

    Presented by No-Li Brewhouse and Hunt's Services. What will it really take to bring the Seattle SuperSonics back to the NBA? Danny Ball is joined by guest co-host Chris Gunther of Charting Hoops and Kurt Badenhausen of Sportico to break down the business behind NBA expansion, the latest conversation around Seattle and Las Vegas, and why Mexico City has entered the picture. Kurt explains how NBA franchise valuations work, why billionaires are willing to pay record prices for teams, and how expansion fees could affect the finances of every current NBA owner. The conversation explores Seattle's ownership group and arena situation, Las Vegas's unique sports and entertainment market, and the questions the league must answer before making a decision. Plus, Kurt discusses what makes a successful expansion franchise and what Seattle can learn from the Vegas Golden Knights, the Kraken, and the Warriors' rise in value. This is the business of basketball, and the stakes for Seattle are enormous. CHAPTERS 00:00 What will it take to bring back the Sonics? 04:00 Kurt Badenhausen joins the show 05:00 Is Mexico City a threat to Seattle's expansion hopes? 08:00 Ownership groups, private equity, and the expansion race 13:00 How NBA franchise valuations work 16:00 Why team prices keep rising 18:00 The economics of buying an NBA team 20:00 Expansion fees and the value of a franchise 22:00 What past team sales tell us 25:20 The math behind expansion for current owners 27:10 Why some owners might oppose expansion 28:00 What the expansion fee means for NBA owners 29:20 Seattle vs. Las Vegas 30:20 Why the Seattle market is attractive 32:00 How Las Vegas makes money from sports 35:00 Arena competition and the Las Vegas market 37:00 Kurt's expansion fee forecast 39:00 Building a successful expansion franchise 40:00 What Seattle can learn from other franchises 41:30 Joe Lacob and the Warriors' rise in value 42:30 Final thoughts and where to find Kurt FOLLOW ICONIC SONICS: Instagram: @iconic_sonics https://www.instagram.com/iconic_sonics/ Twitter: @Iconic_sonics https://x.com/Iconic_sonics TikTok: @iconic_sonics https://www.tiktok.com/@iconic_sonics/ Subscribe for Seattle SuperSonics history, NBA expansion coverage, basketball business, interviews, and conversations about the future of Seattle basketball. CO-HOST: Chris Gunther, Charting Hoops Subscribe to Charting Hoops here: https://chartinghoops.substack.com/ GUESTS Kurt Badenhausen, Sportico SPONSORS No-Li Brewhouse Hunt Services CREDITS Host: Danny Ball Executive Producer: Brett Goldberg Editor: Joseph Lipsen Post-production Supervisor: Madeline Down Music: Oblé Reed

  2. Oct 14

    Jim McIlvaine on Shawn Kemp, His Controversial Sonics Contract & Seattle's NBA Future

    Thank you to our sponsors, Hunt's Services, No-Li Brewing, and Haselwood Auto Group. Join Iconic Sonics for a wide-ranging conversation with Jim McIlvaine about his journey to the NBA, his time with the Seattle SuperSonics, and the contract controversy that became linked to Shawn Kemp's departure. Jim reflects on his college career at Marquette and Washington, the business of NBA contracts, his experiences with multiple franchises, and what made Seattle's organization stand out. He shares stories about Scott Skiles, Detlef Schrempf, Gary Payton, and the culture inside the Sonics locker room, including the story behind the NBA's iconic Impala SS era. Plus, Jim reflects on the departure of the Sonics, Seattle's passionate fan base, and why he believes the city deserves its NBA team back. TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro + Jim McIlvaine Joins Iconic Sonics 0:49 Presented by Hunt's Services 1:23 Jim's College Basketball Journey at Marquette 3:30 Making the Sweet 16 and Playing at Marquette 5:00 Transferring to Washington and College Basketball Connections 7:00 The NBA Draft Process and Pre-Draft Workouts 9:30 Getting Drafted by Washington 11:30 Adjusting to the NBA and Finding His Role 13:30 The Importance of Choosing the Right Agent 15:00 Stories About Agents and the Business of Basketball 17:30 Early NBA Experiences and Summer League 19:30 The Sonics' First-Class Seats Story 21:00 Life Inside the Washington Locker Room 23:00 NBA Contracts, Free Agency, and the Timberwolves Offer 25:30 Comparing How NBA Franchises Treat Their Players 27:00 The Sonics' Facilities and Player Support 29:00 Seattle's Coaching Staff and the People Behind the Team 31:00 NBA Scouting Reports and Behind-the-Scenes Stories 32:30 Jim's Relationship With Shawn Kemp 33:30 The Contract Controversy and Shawn Kemp Leaving Seattle 35:00 The Market for NBA Centers and Jim's 1996 Contract 36:00 Why Jim Wanted to Play in Seattle 37:00 Shawn Kemp's Contract and the Changing NBA Market 39:00 Jim's Thoughts on Today's NBA 40:00 Would Jim Return to Seattle for a Sonics Game? 42:00 Detlef Schrempf, Hersey Hawkins, and Dale Ellis 43:30 Looking Back on Seattle's Successful Sonics Teams 45:00 Jim's Favorite Memories From His NBA Career 46:30 What Jim Is Doing Today 48:00 The Chevy Impala SS, Gary Payton, and Sonics Car Culture 50:00 The Story Behind Jim's Impala 52:00 Gary Payton, Impalas, and the Rise of Bubbles 53:00 Jim's Message to Seattle Sonics Fans 54:20 Closing Thoughts FOLLOW ICONIC SONICS Follow Iconic Sonics for more Sonics history, Seattle basketball stories, interviews, and NBA expansion coverage. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iconic_sonics/ X: https://x.com/Iconic_sonics/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iconic_sonics/ CREDITS Host: Danny Ball Executive Producer: Brett Goldberg Editor: Joseph Lipsen Post Production Supervisor: Madeline Down Music: Oblé Reed

  3. Sep 30

    Detlef Schrempf on the Future of Basketball in Seattle, Seattle Hoops Scene, and the '96 Sonics

    Presented by Hunt's Services Sponsored by No-Li Brewhouse Detlef Schrempf joins Iconic Sonics for a wide-ranging conversation about Seattle basketball, his journey from the University of Washington to the NBA, and what it meant to return home and play for the Sonics. Detlef reflects on getting No. 22 retired at UW, legendary runs at Green Lake, becoming one of the NBA's first international stars, and the teammates and culture that shaped Seattle's 1990s teams. He shares stories about Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton, discusses his Hall of Fame perspective, the differences between American and international basketball development, and what a future Sonics return could mean for Seattle fans. Plus, a bonus conversation from Swinomish Casino & Lodge about sports betting in Washington. 0:00 Intro + Detlef Schrempf joins Iconic Sonics 2:08 Sonics teammates, flights, cards and road trips 4:17 Seattle basketball's underrated history 5:55 Detlef's favorite teammates and NBA practice players 6:50 Seattle's golf scene and Chambers Bay 8:09 Detlef's UW No. 22 retirement 10:33 Green Lake basketball and Seattle pickup culture 12:58 From UW to the NBA 15:19 Detlef as an early international NBA star 17:07 Returning home to Seattle 19:16 Playing alongside Shawn Kemp 20:51 Shawn Kemp and the Hall of Fame conversation 23:09 Detlef's place in NBA history 24:46 NBA expansion and the international game 29:00 International basketball fundamentals vs. the U.S. 32:00 Climate Pledge Arena and NBA readiness 34:00 Imagining the first Sonics game back in Seattle 35:00 Rebuilding Seattle's basketball community 36:00 Youth basketball, high schools and reconnecting generations 38:00 Detlef's potential role in the Sonics' future 39:57 Detlef's place in Seattle basketball 42:00 Bonus: Sports betting at Swinomish Casino & Lodge Instagram: @iconic_sonics X: @iconic_sonics TikTok: @iconic_sonics CREDITS Host: Danny Ball Executive Producer: Brett Goldberg Editor: Joseph Lipsen Post Production Supervisor: Madeline Down

  4. Sep 17

    The Gary Payton Episode / "We're Going to Get The Sonics Back" - Live from Swinomish Casino & Lodge

    Presented by Swinomish Casino & Lodge Sponsored by Hunt's Services Gary Payton, The Glove, joins Iconic Sonics for an unforgettable conversation about the Seattle SuperSonics, Shawn Kemp, the 1990s Sonics, his Hall of Fame career, and the future of basketball in Seattle. Danny Ball and Mike Gastineau sit down with one of the greatest players in Seattle sports history at Swinomish Casino & Lodge for a wide-ranging conversation covering everything from Gary's legendary partnership with Shawn Kemp to the 1996 NBA Finals, his battles with Michael Jordan and John Stockton, his journey into coaching, and his thoughts on the Sonics potentially returning to Seattle. Gary talks openly about his lifelong brotherhood with Shawn Kemp, why you can't mention The Glove without The Rain Man, what made their duo so difficult for opposing teams to stop, and why he believes Shawn belongs in the Basketball Hall of Fame. He also reflects on the 1996 Sonics team, the playoff run to the NBA Finals, playing against the Houston Rockets, his relationship with George Karl, learning from Julius Erving, his time with the Miami Heat, winning an NBA championship, and what he has learned from coaching the next generation of players. And with the NBA's expansion process moving forward, Gary shares his excitement about the possibility of the Sonics returning to Seattle and what it would mean to see the city's basketball history come back to life. A huge thank you to Swinomish Casino & Lodge for hosting us and for the incredible hospitality. 0:00 - Gary Payton Joins Iconic Sonics 2:38 - Is Gary Payton the Greatest Sonic Ever? 4:18 - Gary Makes His Case for Shawn Kemp's Hall of Fame 5:15 - The Glove & The Rain Man: A Brotherhood 7:00 - Will Gary Payton Be Involved When the Sonics Return? 8:30 - Why Gary Would Rather Build a Team Than Coach It 10:00 - Gary Payton on Coaching & Developing Young Players 12:45 - Why Today's NBA Players Don't Work Like They Used To 15:00 - The Coaches & Legends Who Changed Gary's Career 17:00 - How Walter Payton Helped Straighten Gary Out 19:00 - Eddie Johnson, Teammates & Learning to Grow Up 20:00 - The Story Behind Gary Payton's Iconic Glove 22:00 - Why Gary Thinks He's More Popular Now Than Ever 23:30 - Gary's Oakland Basketball Roots 25:00 - Gary Payton's Hide & Seek Strategy 😂 26:00 - Green Lake, Seattle Pickup & Talking Trash 27:30 - The Gary Payton Classic & Seattle's Basketball Culture 29:00 - Raising Jamal Crawford & Passing Down the Game 30:00 - The Legacy of Gary's Father, Al Payton 32:00 - Where Gary's Trash Talk Really Came From 33:00 - Why Gary Payton Wore No. 20 34:00 - Gary's Favorite Team to Play: The Houston Rockets 35:30 - The 1996 Rockets Sweep & The Finals Run 37:00 - Gary Payton's Final Championship in Miami 39:00 - John Stockton: The Player Gary Respected Most 40:30 - Gary's First Game Against Shawn Kemp in Cleveland 42:00 - What Gary Thinks Happened With Shawn Kemp 43:00 - Gary Payton Imagines Opening Night of the Sonics' Return 44:00 - "We're Going to Get It Back" | Gary's Final Message to Seattle CREDITS Behind the cameras: Wesley Holboy, owner of Holboy Entertainment Amirah Holboy, lead photographer for Holboy Entertainment Madeline Down, editing and production Michael Chang, production assistant and BTS footage Brett Goldberg, executive producer Mike Gastineau, guest host Danny Ball, host And, of course, Gary Payton. Thank you to everyone who helped make this episode happen, and to all the fans who came through and shared their stories. Follow Iconic Sonics for more conversations, stories and memories from Seattle basketball: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iconic_sonics/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iconic_sonics

  5. Sep 3

    Antonio Davis & Eldridge Recasner on Gary Payton, Seattle Basketball & the Sonics' Return

    On this episode of Iconic Sonics, Danny Ball sits down with former NBA players Antonio Davis and Eldridge Recasner to talk about their connections to Seattle, the legacy of the Sonics, Gary Payton, Green Lake, and their work with Legends of Basketball. Eldridge shares stories from his time at the University of Washington, playing pickup basketball at Green Lake and the people and places that helped shape his connection to Seattle. Antonio talks about growing up in Oakland, his lifelong connection with Gary Payton, and how that relationship helped shape his own basketball journey. The conversation also touches on the Legends of Basketball organization, the importance of giving former players opportunities to stay connected to the game and their communities, the Seattle Storm and WNBA, and passing the love of basketball down to the next generation. And, of course, we talk about the Sonics coming back. Antonio shares what he's hearing about a potential 2028-29 return, while both guys imagine what that first game back in Seattle could look and feel like. Plus, Eldridge gives a special shoutout to Dale Ellis, Xavier McDaniel and Tom Chambers, and makes the case for bringing some of those Sonics legends back to Seattle when the team returns. Subscribe to Iconic Sonics for more Seattle basketball stories, Sonics history and NBA expansion updates. On this episode of Iconic Sonics, Danny Ball sits down with former NBA players Antonio Davis and Eldridge Recasner to talk about their connections to Seattle, the legacy of the Sonics, Gary Payton, Green Lake, and their work with Legends of Basketball. Eldridge shares stories from his time at the University of Washington, playing pickup basketball at Green Lake and the people and places that helped shape his connection to Seattle. Antonio talks about growing up in Oakland, his lifelong connection with Gary Payton, and how that relationship helped shape his own basketball journey. The conversation also touches on the Legends of Basketball organization, the importance of giving former players opportunities to stay connected to the game and their communities, the Seattle Storm and WNBA, and passing the love of basketball down to the next generation. And, of course, we talk about the Sonics coming back. Antonio shares what he's hearing about a potential 2028-29 return, while both guys imagine what that first game back in Seattle could look and feel like. Plus, Eldridge gives a special shoutout to Dale Ellis, Xavier McDaniel and Tom Chambers, and makes the case for bringing some of those Sonics legends back to Seattle when the team returns. Subscribe to Iconic Sonics for more Seattle basketball stories, Sonics history and NBA expansion updates. Follow us: Instagram: @iconics_sonics  https://www.instagram.com/iconic_sonics/ TikTok: @iconics_sonics https://www.tiktok.com/@iconic_sonics Presented by Rise Above and The Edgewater Hotel. Music by Oble Reed https://www.instagram.com/oblereed/ 00:00 Intro + NBA Expansion Update 03:29 Antonio Davis & Eldridge Recasner Join the Show 04:34 What Does Seattle Basketball Mean to You? 08:27 Finding a Home in Seattle 11:31 Green Lake, Shawn Kemp & Seattle Pickup Basketball 13:28 Antonio Davis' Oakland Connection to Gary Payton 20:30 Eldridge Recasner's First Impressions of Gary Payton 23:00 The Oakland-to-Seattle Basketball Connection 24:30 Basketball Legends Who Inspired Them 27:00 From NBA Players to Legends of Basketball 30:30 Keeping the Sonics Spirit Alive 31:31 Antonio Davis' 2028-29 Sonics Prediction 33:31 Seattle Storm, WNBA & Passing the Torch 37:10 Who Should Be Courtside at the First Sonics Game? 38:18 Dale Ellis, Sonics Legends & the Return to Seattle 44:31 Xavier McDaniel, Tom Chambers & the Sonics' 1980s Era 45:52 The Mission of Legends of Basketball 47:12 Green Lake, Seattle & What's Next 48:43 Outro

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Iconic Sonics celebrates the history of the great Seattle SuperSonics while also covering the NBA's potential expansion, and the return of the team to Seattle.

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