In this episode, Dr. T sits down with Apostle Jivel Tousand, a minister, author, mentor, international speaker, and founder of Jivel Tousand Ministries and Kingdom House Publishing LLC. The conversation centers on hearing God’s voice, cultivating a real relationship with Christ, and moving from spiritual routine into surrendered obedience.We discuss how trauma, worship, discipleship, and trust shape a believer’s ability to recognize God’s guidance and walk confidently in purpose.Key topics Dr. T introduces the episode around his Peace Pace series and his mission to help listeners discover and activate their voice with purpose. Jivel shares her background as a Christian from birth who did not understand personal relationship with God until a traumatic season in 2014. She describes enduring severe verbal and physical abuse, isolation, loss of sleep and appetite, and using worship as a way to survive and redirect her thoughts toward God. Jivel explains that her hunger for “pure worship” led to encounters with God, including hearing His voice and experiencing a profound sense of being seen and valued. Dr. T emphasizes that God often gets our attention most clearly in hardship, when self-reliance breaks down and people begin to cry out for help. The conversation develops around the idea that God should not be boxed into narrow expectations about when or how He speaks. Jivel and Dr. T both stress the difference between adding Jesus to life and fully submitting life to Him. They discuss being sheep who learn the shepherd’s voice through spiritual disciplines like Scripture, worship, obedience, and quiet listening. Jivel highlights that trust with God grows over time and requires leaving things in His hands rather than simply saying we trust Him. The discussion turns to spiritual burnout and the danger of living by ritual, especially for people who have walked with God for many years and assume there is nothing new ahead. Jivel encourages listeners that as long as they are breathing, God still has purpose for them, and age or past experience does not cancel a new assignment. Dr. T shares his own story of retirement, feeling unfulfilled, and later being called to write his book Awaken in seven weeks, followed by new seasons of teaching, speaking, podcasting, and coaching. Jivel explains that God can use other people as instruments of His voice, and that believers should not let fear, excuses, or “I can’t” thinking block obedience. The episode closes with Jivel’s ministry work, her publishing and leadership development focus, and the importance of encouraging people who feel broken, burned out, or unseen. Timestamps(00:00) Welcome to the Dr. T Show and the mission of voice with purpose (00:54) Introducing Apostle Jivel Tousand and her ministry background (02:59) Why listeners should understand the story behind a call (03:18) Faith from childhood, but no personal relationship yet (04:14) Trauma, abuse, and desperate isolation (05:12) Searching for worship that sounds like heaven (06:11) First encounters with God through worship (07:09) Hearing God speak for the first time in 2014 (08:35) Obedience begins after value is restored (09:21) Why God often gets our attention in hard seasons (11:11) Why God cannot be boxed into one setting or method (12:43) Balance: free will, gifts, and the need for God (13:41) Sheep know the shepherd’s voice (14:38) Jesus as submission, not just addition (16:00) Learning the voice through spiritual disciplines (17:35) Scripture, worship, and growing in faith (20:02) Trust requires surrendering something into God’s hands (21:55) Helping traumatized people move toward relationship (23:20) Travel at the speed of relationship (25:15) Old sheep, stale routines, and spiritual renewal (27:03) Growth, fruit, and a new season from God (30:02) Spiritual muscle memory versus fresh renewal (31:00) Dr. T’s call into writing, speaking, and coaching (33:04) Fear, excuses, and supernatural enablement (36:36) God as the obstacle buster (38:10) Jivel Tousand Ministries and global discipleship work (39:01) The purpose of Walk with God magazine (41:48) Supporting leaders who are broken or burned out (43:05) Jivel’s books: Falling in Love After Divorce and Deliver Me from Myself Trials (44:28) The Aroma of Jesus series and its focus on Christ’s beauty (46:09) Why podcasting creates spiritual connection and encouragement (47:39) Closing encouragement for listeners to keep seeking help and light Notable quotes Copy“My sheep know my voice.”Copy“Travel at the speed of relationship.”Copy“As long as we’re still breathing, you still have a purpose here.” Want to be a guest on 'The Dr. T Show'? 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