Second Act: Lives Beyond the Job Title

Gayathri Geetha

Second Act: Lives Beyond the Job Title Sometimes the next level isn’t higher — it’s wider. What if the life you worked so hard to build isn’t the final form of who you’re meant to become? You can earn the title. Lead the team. Hit the milestone. And still feel a quiet pull toward something more — not instead of your success, but beyond it. Second Act is a podcast for high-performing, mid-career professionals who are expanding their identity without abandoning what they’ve built. Each episode traces the real arc of a second act: the internal shift, the first imperfect move, the tradeoffs and constraints, the craft behind the work, and the tools or teams that made growth possible. We end with grounded insights for those ready to widen their own path. This isn’t about quitting. It’s about range. If you’ve ever thought, “Is this it?” — this conversation is for you.

Episodes

  1. She Left the C-Suite With No Backup Plan | Bosky Mukherjee on Burnout, Power & Reinvention

    May 26

    She Left the C-Suite With No Backup Plan | Bosky Mukherjee on Burnout, Power & Reinvention

    For nearly two decades, Bosky Mukherjee played the career game the way many high achievers are taught to: work hard, climb the ladder, and never leave without a backup plan. She rose to the C-suite, became a company president, and built a reputation as the person who could always push through. But behind the success, her body was telling a very different story. In this episode of Second Act, Bosky shares the moment she realized staying had become riskier than leaving, how a heartbreaking question from her young son changed everything, and why she finally walked away from corporate life with no next job lined up. We talk about burnout, identity, women in leadership, the glass ceiling, sponsors vs. mentors, commercial fluency, and how Bosky built her second act as the founder of PM Dojo and She Trail Blazes. This conversation is for anyone who has ever wondered: What if the life I worked so hard to build is no longer the life I’m meant to live? In this episode, we discuss:The health scare that forced Bosky to stop and reassess her lifeWhy high-achieving women often become “workhorses”The difference between work ethic and unhealthy provingWhy women hit the glass ceilingWhy mentors are not enough — and why sponsors matterWhat commercial fluency means for senior leadersHow Bosky built a business without waiting for the perfect ideaWhy paid pilots matter more than praiseHow to start building optionality before you need itIf this episode resonates with you, subscribe to Second Act for more conversations about identity, reinvention, ambition, and life beyond the job title. Chapters00:00 Can I leave? 00:38 Meet Bosky Mukherjee: From C-Suite to Second Act 01:09 When Staying Became Riskier Than Leaving 04:16 The Turning Point: Health and Family 04:41 The Workhorse Identity and the Cost of Proving Yourself 09:57 Bosky’s Mission to Help Women Break the Glass Ceiling 12:26 Why Women Hit the Glass Ceiling 16:15 Mindset, Strategy, and Letting the Right Balls Drop 18:36 Why Work Harder Stops Working: Sponsors, Influence, and Commercial Fluency 26:27 After the Health Scare: Choosing the Next Move 29:44 Building a Real Business: Paid Pilots, Storytelling, and Scrappiness 44:03 Advice for Anyone Considering Their Second Act 50:45 Future Aspirations and Personal Growth About Bosky MukherjeeBosky Mukherjee is a founder, product executive, advisor, and coach helping women leaders and founders build influence, revenue, and optionality in a changing world of work. She is the founder of PM Dojo and She Trailblazes, where she leads programs like Leadership Edge for senior women leaders and Founders Edge for women building revenue-generating businesses. Her work blends commercial fluency, storytelling, product strategy, and lived experience as a former C-suite leader, working mom, and immigrant. Through her work, Bosky helps women break the glass ceiling — whether that means rising into bigger leadership roles or building a business of their own. Links: She Trailblazes:https://www.shetrailblazes.com/ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/bosky/ Tags: Second Act podcast, women in leadership, career reinvention, C-suite burnout, women founders, leaving corporate, commercial fluency, Bosky Mukherjee

    52 min
  2. Keep the Job, Build the Art: Cielo De La Paz’s Second Act

    May 9

    Keep the Job, Build the Art: Cielo De La Paz’s Second Act

    What if you didn’t have to quit your job to build a deeply creative life? In this episode of Second Act: Life Beyond the Job Title, I sit down with Cielo De La Paz — UX leader at YouTube, photographer, filmmaker, educator, and creator — to talk about what it really means to build a creative second act while keeping a full-time career. Cielo shares the story behind her photo being featured in Apple’s Shot on iPhone campaign, what happened when she tried to take photography full-time, and why she eventually realized that not every passion needs to become a business. We also talk about imposter syndrome, building a YouTube channel, teaching what you know, using AI tools as a creator, and why your job can sometimes be the “angel investor” for your art. This conversation is for anyone with a creative dream, a side project, or a quiet part of themselves they are ready to take more seriously. Chapters00:00 Cold Open: Photography as Art vs. Business 01:12 Meet Cielo: UX Leader, Photographer, Creator 01:45 The Red Umbrella Photo That Went Global 04:15 Becoming a Creator and Facing the Camera 05:38 Imposter Syndrome and Sharing Your Work 07:28 What Happened When She Tried Photography Full-Time 10:48 Building a Course Business — Then Walking Away 14:06 Your Job Can Be the Angel Investor for Your Art 15:19 How to Create While Working Full-Time 18:03 AI Tools and the Future of Creation 22:00 Finding Community Through Art 24:12 Long-Term Goals and Aspirations in Art 26:17 A Bridge, Not a Leap 28:32 Is YouTube Too Saturated? 29:52 Why Being Multi-Hyphenate Is an Advantage Tags: Second Act, creative career, career reinvention, side hustle, creator economy, YouTube creator, photography, AI tools, creative life, multi-hyphenate, personal brand, imposter syndrome, UX leader, women in tech, career and creativity, passion project, creative entrepreneurship, art and work, building in public, life beyond the job title, Cielo De La Paz

    31 min
  3. From Salesforce PM to Startup Founder: Zach Hawtof’s Second Act

    Mar 25

    From Salesforce PM to Startup Founder: Zach Hawtof’s Second Act

    In this episode of Second Act, Zach Hawtof shares his journey from Salesforce to building Tightknit — and the deliberate decisions that led him there. Instead of jumping straight into a startup, Zach chose to first move to a smaller company to get closer to customers, product, and the realities of building. What followed was a journey that was far less polished — and far more real — than most startup stories you hear. We talk about what it actually takes to start from scratch: the messiness, the uncertainty, the early chaos, and the moments that make it all worth it. If you’ve ever thought about leaving a “safe” path to build something of your own, this conversation will give you a grounded, honest look at what that really means. 🎯 Key TopicsZach’s journey from Salesforce to building TightknitWhy he deliberately moved to a smaller company before startingThe reality of startup life: why it’s always messyWhy you don’t need to be a genius to build a companyThe importance of talking to customers early and oftenWhy handshakes beat scale in the early daysThe case for starting with services before building a productEarly struggles: side hustles, financial trade-offs, and uncertaintyThe first customer moment — before anything was readyWhy founders should chase problems, not ideas⏱️ Timestamps00:00 - Introduction: Choosing building over the safe path 00:32 - From developer to PM to founder 01:02 - What Tightknit does 01:37 - Early days at Salesforce 02:41 - Discovering Slack and community building 04:14 - The idea behind Tightknit 05:13 - Finding the right co-founder 06:39 - Why it gets harder to leave big companies 09:47 - Making the move toward entrepreneurship 09:55 - The first startup idea that didn’t work 11:53 - First customer chaos (before onboarding existed) 12:46 - Why handshakes beat scale early 14:07 - Service-first validation 15:17 - Surviving financially in the early days 17:48 - The moments that made it worth it 20:03 - The reality of startup life 22:30 - When everything breaks 23:52 - Managing time as a founder 25:22 - Building community beyond the product 26:41 - Rethinking traditional planning frameworks 28:37 - How AI changed the game 30:48 - Features customers actually value 32:18 - Why Slack is the center of work 33:50 - Advice: Chase problems, not ideas 35:52 - Zach’s vision for Tightknit 🔗 Resources & LinksTightknit — https://tightknit.ai Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhawtof/

    37 min
  4. From a Stanford PhD and Big Tech to Leadership Coach: Anubha Kothari’s Second Act

    Mar 10

    From a Stanford PhD and Big Tech to Leadership Coach: Anubha Kothari’s Second Act

    Embracing Nonlinear Journeys: From Tech Leadership to Inner Transformation with Anubha KothariIn this episode, Anubha shares her inspiring journey from Silicon Valley tech roles to guiding women through inner transformation. Discover how embracing the nonlinear path, trusting your instincts, and celebrating small wins can lead to a fulfilling second act. Whether you're contemplating a career pivot or seeking greater alignment with your true self, this conversation offers practical insights and heartfelt stories to motivate your next chapter. Key TopicsAnubha's diverse career journey across Amazon, Meta, eBay, and her transition to inner transformation coachingHow her early experiences and passion for depth influenced her multiple life chaptersThe concept of "radiance" and reclaiming one's innate vitality and authenticityNavigating nonlinear career pivots: experimentation over leaps, trusting intuition, and embracing uncertaintyPractical strategies for financial planning and maintaining motivation during transition phasesThe power of celebrating wins through tools like a Win Book to reinforce momentumThe realities of being a transformational coach: emotional energy, ongoing learning, and client intimacyDesigning cohort programs for women to explore leadership, sovereignty, and self-led livingAdvice for listeners feeling called to explore their own authentic paths amidst rapid changeTimestamps00:00 - Introduction: From tech leadership to inner transformation 02:00 - Anubha's multifaceted journey across tech and healing modalities 04:17 - What is radiance? Reclaiming your innate vitality 05:07 - Supporting women as a transformational coach 06:39 - Embracing a nonlinear, experimental approach to career pivots 08:23 - Signals and intuition guiding meaningful change 10:16 - Financial readiness and creative solutions during transition 12:21 - Maintaining motivation and celebrating small wins with a Win Book 14:55 - Behind the scenes: What it takes to be a leadership transformation coach 16:26 - How clients discover Anubha and her marketing insights 17:48 - Surprising aspects of coaching: Emotional intensity and growth 19:03 - Redefining success: Inner alignment over external metrics 20:16 - Planning for cohort programs and her future offerings 22:29 - Impacting women through programs like Bloom and Bone & Bloom 23:06 - Parting advice: Embrace your calling and expand into your true self Resources & LinksAnubha Kothari - WebsiteRadiantly Human Substack https://anubha.substack.com

    25 min

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Second Act: Lives Beyond the Job Title Sometimes the next level isn’t higher — it’s wider. What if the life you worked so hard to build isn’t the final form of who you’re meant to become? You can earn the title. Lead the team. Hit the milestone. And still feel a quiet pull toward something more — not instead of your success, but beyond it. Second Act is a podcast for high-performing, mid-career professionals who are expanding their identity without abandoning what they’ve built. Each episode traces the real arc of a second act: the internal shift, the first imperfect move, the tradeoffs and constraints, the craft behind the work, and the tools or teams that made growth possible. We end with grounded insights for those ready to widen their own path. This isn’t about quitting. It’s about range. If you’ve ever thought, “Is this it?” — this conversation is for you.