The Art of Adjusting® Podcast

William Auten & Chantal Roberts

Dive deep into the world of insurance claims with our podcast, newly rebranded as "The Art of Adjusting®"—a title echoing the revered book of the same name. This revamped podcast is not just a beacon for professionals navigating the adjuster landscape but also a wealth of insights for those curious about the intricacies of the industry. We're thrilled to announce that Bill Auten, owner of Auten Claims Management, will now share the mic with a stellar co-host, Chantal Roberts. Chantal isn’t just the brilliant mind behind the book 'The Art of Adjusting®'; she's also the powerhouse owner of CMR Consulting. Together, this dynamic pair will decode the complexities of various claims, from property and auto to liability and workers’ compensation, providing unmatched expertise and invaluable insights for our listeners. In our recent episodes, we've explored a range of riveting topics, offering a deep dive into the technicalities of claims, showcasing transformational journeys within the industry, and illuminating the art and science of policy decoding and investigation. Special guests, including industry veterans like Steve Frattare, have graced our platform to share their extensive knowledge and experience, shedding light on a multitude of areas within the claims adjusting world. Subscribe to “The Art of Adjusting®” to keep abreast of the evolving landscape of insurance claims. Share our treasure trove of episodes with colleagues, friends, and anyone with an appetite for understanding the captivating, multifaceted world of claims adjusting. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services:Visit: Auten Claims ManagementTo explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit: Visit: CMR ConsultingPromotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  1. 3d ago

    Episode 107: Negotiation Lessons From 10,000 Insurance Claims

    Send us Fan Mail Negotiation gets blamed for a lot of bad claims outcomes, but the real culprit is usually something simpler: weak investigation and unclear documentation. We sit down to share negotiation lessons we’ve learned across thousands of insurance claims and why “because I said so” collapses the moment a claimant, attorney, contractor, or public adjuster pushes back. We walk through the signals that tell us when it’s time to negotiate, when it’s too early, and when the other side is quietly preparing for litigation. From liability and bodily injury to property claims, we explain how we build a settlement range, why jurisdiction changes everything, and how internal settlement history can be more useful than generic verdict tools. We also talk about unrealistic demands, the confusion around “lowball” offers, and what we document so our position is supported by facts instead of emotion. On the property side, we get practical about scope disputes and estimating: why walking a roof together can save months, how to handle large estimate gaps in Xactimate line by line, and where code upgrades, debris removal, and depreciation create friction. We also make a key point for carrier adjusters: pay what you know you owe when you know you owe it, and don’t withhold undisputed money to force agreement. Finally, we share how to help newer adjusters grow through mentorship, smarter handoffs, and better feedback from litigation units so the whole claims department learns. If you found this helpful, subscribe, share it with an adjuster friend, and leave a five-star review so more claims pros can find the show. What negotiation habit has saved you the most time on tough files? For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  2. Oct 26

    Episode 106 - The Next Generation of Investigation

    Send us Fan Mail Evidence used to be a handful of photos and a recorded statement. Now it can be a doorbell clip, a dash cam angle, a neighborhood app thread, body camera footage, satellite history, and a metadata trail that tells you exactly when that “proof” was created. We dig into what that shift means for real-world liability investigations and why the best adjusters stay curious, skeptical, and organized even when the tools get smarter. We talk through practical ways insurance adjusters are using AI in claims adjusting without handing over the steering wheel. That includes improving report structure and storytelling, building automation to handle repetitive admin tasks, and keeping an eye on privacy so sensitive claim documents stay protected. We also get into why clear file notes and plain language matter more than ever when your audience might be a desk adjuster, a supervisor, an attorney, or a jury. Then we go boots-on-the-ground: scene locus photos, fast documentation before conditions change, and when drones actually help versus when they can create a false sense of certainty. We cover FAA licensing basics, airspace realities, and why drone liability and hull coverage should be on your radar if you’re flying for commercial work. Finally, we confront the uncomfortable new problem of deepfakes and altered evidence, along with practical steps to validate authenticity when a case hinges on photos or video. If you got value from this, subscribe, share it with an adjuster friend, and leave a review so more claims pros can find the show. What piece of tech has improved your investigations most, and what’s made them worse? For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  3. Oct 9

    Episode #105 - Can Claims Ever Be Truly Objective?

    Send us Fan Mail Adjusters are expected to be objective, but is true objectivity even possible when every claim requires judgment? In this episode of The Art of Adjusting® Podcast, Bill and Chantal explore how confirmation bias, anchoring, and preconceived notions can influence claim investigations. They discuss the importance of distinguishing facts from inferences and opinions, challenging initial assumptions, and evaluating favorable and unfavorable evidence by the same standard. From police reports and witness statements to prior adjuster notes, even seemingly reliable information can influence how a claim is investigated. Can adjusters ever eliminate bias entirely? Perhaps not. But recognizing it, questioning assumptions, and remaining open to contradictory evidence can lead to fairer, more thorough investigations. The takeaway: A good investigation isn't about proving your initial theory right. It's about being willing to prove yourself wrong. After listening, you'll have practical ways to recognize your own biases, challenge the assumptions buried in your claim files, and make sure the evidence drives your conclusions—not the other way around. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  4. Sep 24

    Episode # 104 - Your Claim Notes Aren't Good Enough

    Send us Fan Mail Are your claim notes actually documenting the claim—or are they just repeating information that already exists somewhere else in the file? In this episode of The Art of Adjusting®, Chantal Roberts looks at what makes a claim note useful and why simply copying and pasting an email into the notes may not be enough. A good claim file should allow someone to reconstruct what happened, but that includes more than communications and activity. Your notes should also document what the information means to the claim, what you intend to do next, and, when appropriate, the reasoning behind your handling decisions. Chantal also discusses the alphabet soup of claims abbreviations and why shorthand that makes perfect sense to an adjuster today may not be nearly as clear to a Department of Insurance examiner, attorney, insured, or someone else reviewing the file years later. The goal isn’t to write a novel every time you touch a claim. It’s to leave a clear record of what happened, what you understood, and what comes next. Because someday, the person reading your notes may not be you. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  5. Sep 10

    Episode #103 - The Economics of Independent Adjusting

    Send us Fan Mail Independent adjusters are part of the claims process—but what exactly are carriers buying when they hire one? Bill Auten takes a practical look at the independent adjusting business, from property adjusters working on fee schedules to liability investigators billing by the hour. He explains how carriers use IAs to add temporary capacity, fill geographic gaps, preserve evidence, conduct field investigations, and free staff adjusters to focus on the work that most needs their expertise. The episode also goes inside the economics of independent adjusting: fee splits, expenses, utilization, overhead, cash flow, and why neither the adjuster’s payment nor the carrier’s invoice tells you how profitable an assignment actually is. Most importantly, Bill looks at independent adjusting as a claims management resource. The question isn’t simply whether your staff adjuster can do the work. Sometimes the better question is whether that work is the best use of the adjuster’s limited time. Plus, Bill explains the difference between outsourcing claim responsibility and outsourcing the work needed to make good claim decisions. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  6. Aug 27

    Episode #102 - The Million-Dollar File Starts Day One

    Send us Fan Mail One missing piece of evidence can turn a clear claim into a costly argument, and it usually happens fast. We break down the idea of the “million-dollar file” and why the most important decisions often get made on day one, long before depositions, experts, or mediation show up. I walk through what strong evidence retention looks like in real investigations: identifying what actually matters, moving quickly to preserve it, and avoiding evidence spoliation claims that can damage credibility and limit defenses. We talk about practical realities too, like confirming who owns an item before you collect it, getting written permission when needed, and coordinating storage and access when multiple parties may need to inspect the same piece of equipment. We also dig into the details that make evidence usable later. Chain of custody documentation is the quiet backbone of a defensible file, and digital evidence brings its own risks and opportunities. Photos and video can carry metadata like date, time, and GPS location, but that data can disappear when files get emailed, reformatted, or saved the wrong way. I also share when it makes sense to bring in forensic experts to recover metadata or evaluate whether images were altered. Finally, we connect evidence preservation to coverage decisions, including situations where the make and model of a vehicle or equipment can affect policy exclusions. If the item is sold, destroyed, or mixed back into a rental fleet, the investigation gets harder and the stakes rise. If you found this helpful, subscribe, share it with a colleague, and leave a review. What’s the one piece of evidence you’ve seen go missing that changed everything? For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  7. Aug 13

    Episode #101: Assume Less And Investigate Better

    Send us Fan Mail The quickest way a claim goes sideways is not a coverage dispute or a tough claimant. It’s one small word that sneaks into our thinking and hardens into “truth” before we’ve earned it: assume. We talk candidly about how assumptions show up in real insurance adjusting work and why they lead to extra work, bad decisions, and sometimes lawsuits when new facts surface later in discovery or deposition. We get specific about where bias starts, especially in the first loss notice. Agents and insureds may write a convincing narrative using everyday words that don’t match policy definitions, and if we anchor on that version, we can miss the real cause of loss or the real liability issues. We walk through how to separate facts vs opinions vs assumptions, how confirmation bias traps even experienced adjusters, and why “right fighting” can quietly wreck your file. From there we dig into practical investigation habits: using careful claim note language like alleged, reported, and confirmed; avoiding assumptions when you inherit a file; and checking what actually controls liability through contracts, ownership, leases, snow removal agreements, and additional insured language. We also hit a modern reality for liability claims and property claims: cameras are everywhere, so asking about video and canvassing nearby locations can change the outcome fast. You’ll leave with a clearer framework for making educated inferences under deadlines without pretending you have all the facts. Subscribe, share this with an adjuster friend, and leave a review if the show helps you handle claims with more confidence and less bias. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

  8. Jul 30

    Episode #100: How Two Adjusters Built A Podcast

    Send us Fan Mail Episode 100 lands with a twist: we’re finally recording together in person for the first time. After years of remote calls, we sit down with cake, swag, and a live “peanut gallery” to tell the origin story of how The Art of Adjusting Podcast grew from random conversations into a claims adjusting show that now reaches thousands of listeners. We talk about how we actually met, starting with LinkedIn and a shared love of old-school noir, then moving to Clubhouse during COVID when live audio rooms felt like talk radio for insurance people. That experiment turns into the Daily Claims podcast, and when solo recording gets tough, we team up, split the work, and build something more sustainable. Along the way we share our real career paths into insurance claims, from corporate training with big insurance companies to construction-to-adjusting, plus what expert witness work is really like and why depositions can be maddening. Then we get practical about the future of the insurance industry: AI in claims, automation, and the hidden training problem no one wants to admit. If AI handles the easy claims, where do new adjusters learn the craft before they’re handed complex files? We also come back to the most human skill in the job, whether you handle property, auto, workers’ comp, or liability claims: trust. Sometimes the best thing you can say is, “I don’t know, but I’ll find out and call you by 4,” and then you actually do it. Subscribe, share this with an adjuster friend, and leave a five-star review so more people can find the show. What’s one change you want to see in claims over the next five years? For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services, visit Auten Claims Management. To explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit CMR Consulting. Promotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.

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Dive deep into the world of insurance claims with our podcast, newly rebranded as "The Art of Adjusting®"—a title echoing the revered book of the same name. This revamped podcast is not just a beacon for professionals navigating the adjuster landscape but also a wealth of insights for those curious about the intricacies of the industry. We're thrilled to announce that Bill Auten, owner of Auten Claims Management, will now share the mic with a stellar co-host, Chantal Roberts. Chantal isn’t just the brilliant mind behind the book 'The Art of Adjusting®'; she's also the powerhouse owner of CMR Consulting. Together, this dynamic pair will decode the complexities of various claims, from property and auto to liability and workers’ compensation, providing unmatched expertise and invaluable insights for our listeners. In our recent episodes, we've explored a range of riveting topics, offering a deep dive into the technicalities of claims, showcasing transformational journeys within the industry, and illuminating the art and science of policy decoding and investigation. Special guests, including industry veterans like Steve Frattare, have graced our platform to share their extensive knowledge and experience, shedding light on a multitude of areas within the claims adjusting world. Subscribe to “The Art of Adjusting®” to keep abreast of the evolving landscape of insurance claims. Share our treasure trove of episodes with colleagues, friends, and anyone with an appetite for understanding the captivating, multifaceted world of claims adjusting. For more insights, you might consider a career in liability adjusting or if you're searching for reliable adjusting services:Visit: Auten Claims ManagementTo explore more about Chantal Roberts and her contributions to the industry, visit: Visit: CMR ConsultingPromotions: Once Upon a Claim: Explore the magical world of claims adjusting through fairy tales. Get your copy now.The Art of Adjusting®: Master the art of claims adjusting with practical insights and expert advice. Purchase here.