Contrary to Popular

Julianne Rhodes

Contrary to Popular is a podcast about responsible influence in the Church. Host Julianne Rhodes examines how Christian leaders shape biblical belief and why skill-building produces more meaningful change than performance pressure. Wrestling with faith can be messy, but that’s how mature believers are forged. If you want to make disciples marked by durable faith instead of dependency, this show is for you.

Episodes

  1. Healthy Influence | with Stephanie Alton

    5d ago

    Healthy Influence | with Stephanie Alton

    Send us Fan Mail How do you help people grow without making them dependent on you? That question sits underneath every sermon, podcast, book, Bible study, and ministry platform. Christian leaders are called to guide people, encourage people, and point them toward truth. But healthy influence requires more than gathering an audience. It requires helping people develop their own discernment, wrestle with Scripture for themselves, and build a faith that can stand on its own. In this episode, literary agent Stephanie Alton joins Julianne Rhodes for a conversation about influence, platform-building, discernment, and the responsibility that comes with having people's attention. Together, they explore: • What healthy influence looks like in Christian spaces • Why discernment cannot be outsourced to pastors, authors, or influencers • The difference between building a platform and building dependency • How Christian communicators can point people back to God rather than themselves • Why knowledge alone does not produce spiritual maturity • The role of personal responsibility in faith development • How readers and listeners can evaluate the voices they follow • The importance of testing ideas against Scripture and seeking God directly Whether you're leading a ministry, writing a book, hosting a podcast, teaching a Bible study, or simply trying to grow in your faith, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at how influence can remain both effective and healthy. — Learn more about Stephanie Alton and the Blythe Daniel Agency: https://theblythedanielagency.com If you care about Christian communication done with more creativity and integrity, come see what we’re building at contrarytopopular.com.

    22 min
  2. Spiritual Guerrilla Warfare | with Athena Dean Holtz

    Mar 11

    Spiritual Guerrilla Warfare | with Athena Dean Holtz

    Send us Fan Mail “I kept saying, ‘I forgive them… I forgive them…’ but it wasn’t working.” That moment led Athena Dean Holtz into a deeper realization: sometimes the conflict we think we’re fighting with people has a different layer entirely. When believers misidentify the battle, we end up exhausted, reactive, and stuck in cycles we can’t seem to break. In this episode, Athena, author of No Longer Hidden: You Cannot Resist What You Do Not Recognize, shares how learning to recognize spiritual deception helped her understand a painful betrayal in ministry — and why discernment, not fear, is the key to standing firm. We explore: How hidden patterns of deception can quietly shape conflictWhy misidentifying the battle keeps believers stuck in reaction modeThe difference between ignoring spiritual warfare and seeing it everywhereHow knowing Scripture in context strengthens discernmentWhy mature believers must learn to test teaching for themselves instead of outsourcing authorityHow recognition can change the way we respond to betrayal, pain, and pressureIf you’ve ever felt like you’re fighting the same battles over and over, this episode invites you to step back and ask a deeper question: what if the real battle isn’t the one you think it is? — Learn more about Athena and her work at redemption-press.com and athenaholtzspeaks.com. If you care about Christian communication done with more creativity and integrity, come see what we’re building at contrarytopopular.com.

    24 min

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Contrary to Popular is a podcast about responsible influence in the Church. Host Julianne Rhodes examines how Christian leaders shape biblical belief and why skill-building produces more meaningful change than performance pressure. Wrestling with faith can be messy, but that’s how mature believers are forged. If you want to make disciples marked by durable faith instead of dependency, this show is for you.