Taming Thumos: Real Men, Real Conversations

A Men's Mental Health Podcast

A podcast where we drop the stigma and talk about men's mental health. Expect to read and hear inspiring stories from behind closed doors. Normalizing the challenges of everyday life, one conversation at a time... tamingthumos.substack.com

  1. Sep 4

    #13 A Vagabond and a Nomad walk into a bar...

    In this candid episode of Taming Thumos, I sit down with Alex Thomas—a fitness professional, author, poet and self-professed nomad. Alex shares his journey from growing up in a tough environment in Northern England to coaching across 50+ gyms around the world, writing eight books, and using creative expression to process trauma. The conversation explores the heavy psychological realities facing some men today such as: a lack of purpose, generational trauma, suicidal ideation, and the struggle to balance authenticity with belonging. The episode culminates in Alex discussing his upcoming endurance challenge where he is going to be pulling a car for 24 continuous hours to raise funds and awareness for suicide prevention via the charity Lifestyle Psychiatry Society. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode Connecting Through the Fitness Community Alex shares his coaching journey from charging $1.50 for a 90 minute session in the park at age 14 to becoming a CrossFit L2 head Coach at a number of CrossFit Affiliates in the UK and New Zealand. We talk about our shared experience of transitioning from coaching in the UK to moving across New Zealand and Australia to find a place to call home. The “Choice Point” Alex shares a vivid story from New Zealand where childhood survival mechanisms triggered a sleepwalking episode holding a knife. Recognizing the need to break free from generational trauma and toxic, hyper-masculine patterns. The Power of Poetry & Creative Expression How breaking his back (L5-S1) at age 18 forced Alex to find emotional outlets outside of physical exertion in the form of poetry. A journey that went from writing scribbled notes on scrap paper to self-publishing eight books, including The Nomad Series and children’s books. Masculinity, Community & Breaking the Stigma The difference between surface-level greetings like “You good?” and genuine, heart-centered check-ins like “How are you really feeling?”. And the importance of finding safe, communal spaces for open dialogue outside of traditional drinking culture environments. Challenging the “zero-sum” narrative around gender equality: why men supporting other men’s mental health creates a healthier society for everyone. The 24-Hour Car Pull Charity Event Alex details his upcoming physical challenge where he intends to pull a vehicle for 24 hours on a drag track to raise awareness and funds for suicide prevention through Lifestyle and build community resilience. This mammoth feet represents the relentless, 24/7 weight of mental health struggles and trauma that individuals carry every day. "Everything that I do is for other people, but every piece of writing I do is for myself. I am closer to who I actually am when I write." I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! Learn more If you’d like to support Alex’s 24 hr challenge and help raise awareness and funds for suicide prevention, visit his gofundme page here. If you’d like to learn about more about Alex check out his podcast The Nomadic Podcast here, watch his TedX talk here and check out his books on Amazon here! Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and follow Taming Thumos on Instagram or better still, sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #13 A Vagabond and a Nomad walk into a bar...
  2. Aug 2

    #12 Lessons in Leadership

    In this episode, I reunite with my former troop commander from the Royal Marines, Roderic (Rod) Yapp. Nearly two decades after we served together in Afghanistan on Op Herrick in 2007, we reflect on our individual experiences from opposing sides of the fence. We discuss what Rod learned from his time serving as a Royal Marines Officer, his transition from military service to coaching leadership in the civilian world, and how foundational leadership principles apply to relationships and parenting. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode Command Decisions & The Greater Good Rod explains his decision-making process during our 2007 deployment, emphasizing that the needs of the wider team (the unit or troop) must always take precedence over the individual. Leadership vs. Technical Skill In business as in the military, people are often promoted because they are good at technical execution. Rod notes that leading a team requires a fundamentally different mindset—shifting from “playing the instrument” to “conducting the orchestra.” The “Tribe” & Post-Service Isolation We discuss the disorientation many veterans feel when returning to civilian life. We discuss the loss of tight-knit bonds (as explored in Sebastian Junger’s book Tribe) and the danger of not taking responsibility one’s self, replacing that loss with codependent relationships or unhealthy habits. Self-Care as a Prerequisite for Leadership & Parenting Using the “oxygen mask” analogy, Rod explains that taking care of one’s basic physical and mental health (sleep, exercise, nutrition) isn’t selfish—it is essential to being strong enough to lead and serve others effectively, including your family. "It's not about the job or the work; it's about the bonds that get created amongst people doing dangerous work because they have to rely on each other... When you come back, all of those bonds are just ripped apart." I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! Learn more If you’d like to know more about Rod’s work with Leadership Capital visit his webiste here. You can also check out Rod’s Tedx talk Double-loop learning: a case study from the front-line here. Rod can be found most readily on LinkedIn here. Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and follow Taming Thumos on Instagram or better still, sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #12 Lessons in Leadership
  3. Jul 17

    #11 Balancing the Masculine and Feminine Energies Within

    In this episode of the Taming Thumos, I’m joined by my friend Jake “Choccy” Norton (no, he is not a UFC fighter). Choc is a podcaster and holistic health coach based in Sydney. He uses Chek principles and knowledge from The Master’s Way to help his clients reconnect with their intuitive higher Self to live a more fulfilling life. In this conversation, we reflect on our personal growth journey, vulnerability, and navigating the transition from a traditional masculine environment into a holistic, intuitive approach to life. We discuss the power of speaking your truth, the “lonely chapter”, and how ancient energetic principles (chakras) align with modern human needs and attachment patterns. As well as somatic tools such as breathwork to recalibrate and re-center. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode The Power of Speaking Your Truth Jake reflects on advice from a past mentor about how speaking your truth, even when it feels uncomfortable, can serve as a powerful ripple effect to change someone else’s life. The “Lonely Chapter” Jake details his shift from working as a plumber to entering the health space. He spent two years feeling deeply conflicted—studying wellness while working a trade job that he didn’t align with energetically. A difficult crossing point between an old lifestyle program and a new one. Jake credits taking action, changing his social circle to inspiring people, and studying his ego/shadow aspects for allowing him to transition out of a victim mentality. Understanding Chakras and Attachment Patterns Jake maps the basic human energy centers (chakras) to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, noting that humans frequently get trapped in the bottom three “survival” chakras—worrying about money, belonging, tribal safety, and self-image. Recalibration and Re-centering We discuss how somatic practices like breathwork act as a powerful tool to pull individuals out of their mental loops, helping to regulate the nervous system and clear out trauma stored in body tissues. Returning to Faith We talk about a rising trend of people looking past the current socio-political structures and returning to a higher power or deep spiritual connection for direction and a sense of belonging. "When you're limited by the “Buddhist cage:” or your beliefs and thoughts and everything's perfectly organized, you miss out on the beauty of what actually life's trying to teach you." I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! Learn more If you’d like to know more about Choccy’s work and The Intuitive Human Project; a map designed to help people unpack their mental blocks and step past protective ego mechanisms, visit his website here and be sure to follow him on Instagram, where you can sign up for his thought provoking newsletter. AND be sure to listen into his educational and entertaining podcast Chats with Choccy! Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and follow Taming Thumos on Instagram or better still, sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #11 Balancing the Masculine and Feminine Energies Within
  4. Jul 2

    #10 From Attachment to Authenticity

    Today I’m joined by Rich Johnson. Rich is a wellness practitioner and co-founder of Sacred Humans, a platform dedicated to emotional calibration and self-healing through sound frequency work. Having met over a decade ago in the London CrossFit community, our parallel paths eventually crossed again on the other side of the world, on Gubbi Gubbi Country. As Rich approaches his 50th birthday, he reflects on the challenges and breakthroughs of maintaining personal authenticity within relationships. Rich talks about transitioning away from “people-pleasing,” navigating relationships through personal evolution, and processing deep-seated childhood experiences through introspection, plant medicine and sound frequency work. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode The Evolution of Relationships Rich discusses re-framing his past relationships from failures to essential chapters of learning, realizing he was the common denominator in his relationship patterns. Allowing him to shift from the “nice guy” persona and anxious attachment styles to building healthier, more grounded boundaries. Life Milestones as Wake-Up Calls How the passing of his father at age 60 and his brother’s early-onset Parkinson’s diagnosis served as profound catalysts for prioritizing personal wellness, lifestyle alignment, and longevity. The Healing Journey (Somatic and Spiritual) Rich details his 11-year journey with plant medicine, the somatic processing of grief and childhood trauma, and finding a space of deep forgiveness and unconditional love. He shares the daily tools he uses for ongoing self-care, including Yin practices, Qigong, and the science behind the sound frequency work offered through Sacred Humans. “I feel so secure now that if those relationships move on, I’m fine. That is not who makes me. My identity isn’t a direct reflection of how much the other person is there for me or not there for me. If I’m fully in my power, it doesn’t matter.” I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! If you’d like to know more about Rich and the work that he offers through Sacred Humans, . Visit the website or on Instagram. Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and follow Taming Thumos on Instagram or better still, sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #10 From Attachment to Authenticity
  5. Jun 22

    #9 Faith and fitness

    In this episode, Brett and I catch up to discuss his background in the military, physical training and reflect on what he has learned over an extensive 20-year coaching career. We dive deep into the philosophy of physical training, how Brett’s coaching style has evolved from being rigid to a more supportive mentor role, and the connection between physical fitness, mental resilience, and spiritual health. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode Lessons from 20 Years of Coaching Brett notes that a primary lesson from his decades of coaching is realizing you don’t know everything, even when you think you do. Self-reflection vs External Validation We discuss the the importance of self-reflection as well as external validation to orient ourselves in the world. Specifically, how the rigorous nature of the CrossFit seminar staff internship process shifted me from a place of blaming outside factors to deeply auditing my own professional capacity and self-reliance. Self-Talk During Training The two of us contrast our internal monologues during intense physical workouts. How I tend to be driven by internal high standards and pushing to absolute physical limits, often blocking out external noise to grind through the hurt. Whereas Brett’s Style is more calculated, logical, and structured. Brett admits he handles training “softly” compared to high-intensity outliers, focusing on pacing and doing what is sub-maximally sustainable. The Connection Between Fitness and Faith Finally, Brett draws a strong parallel between physical fitness and his recent return to Catholicism. He equates fitness to physical health and faith/spirituality to internal, spiritual health. Rather than strictly focusing on granular, rigid rules (micro-rules), Brett highlights the overriding “meta-rules” of both practices. Where in fitness, “something is better than nothing,” and in faith, the guiding principle is love and self-reflection. “One must imagine Sisyphus happy... [Life] is a punishment, and it relates to the human condition because we are the rats in the wheel, and the existential dilemma is: what’s the point of this? ...The trick is to enjoy every moment, be grateful for the things you have.” I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #9 Faith and fitness
  6. Jun 2

    #8 The Feather, the Brick, and the Truck: Recognizing Life’s Wake-Up Calls

    In this episode, I am joined by Andrew Boniface, a former emergency helicopter pilot turned corporate consultant and men’s group facilitator. Andy shares his profound personal transformation following the breakdown of his marriage. He discusses how hitting rock bottom led him to processing and taking responsibility for his own trauma. Which in turn, allowed him to become a more present and regulated father to his twin daughters. He is now giving back by facilitating dad’s groups and helping corporate organizations foster human-first cultures. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key themes from the episode The Analogy of the Feather, the Brick, and the Truck Andy introduces a powerful framework for how life communicates lessons to us through subtle and not so subtle means. Starting with the feather, a gentle, subtle tickle or indicator (e.g., minor arguments or coming home with the wrong mindset) that we often ignore. Which then turns into the brick: A more severe, tangible warning sign. And if we ignore that, the truck! Usually, a catastrophic event or rock bottom that forces an ego death and complete awakening. Squeezing the Lemon: Facing Generational Patterns Andy notes that it isn’t until we are squeezed like a lemon under intense stress that our deepest unaddressed issues emerge. Having previously avoided long-term relationship tests, the immense stress of sleep deprivation and raising twin daughters caused him to default to the critical, judgmental habits of his own father—habits he had sworn he would never replicate. Recognizing this allowed him to step out of a victim mindset and take absolute responsibility for his actions. The Power of Emotional Responsibility and Self-Forgiveness Andy talks about learning the difference between blame and responsibility. We discuss how losing oneself in shame becomes self-loathing rather than focusing on repair. And how self-forgiveness must take place to stop whipping yourself and truly take responsibility. Andy explains how he grew up believing anger was inherently “wrong” because of his father’s short temper, leading him to suppress it. Through men’s work, he learned that responsibly expressing anger is necessary. Moving from Left-Brain Logic to Right-Brain Feeling Andy shares how his self-development was purely left-brained, focused on structured logic, reading classic corporate psychology books, and physical fitness. Referencing Steve Bidoff’s book Wild Creature Mind, Andy discusses how men frequently suppress emotions with logic. True healing required him to get back into his body and actively feel the suppressed emotions. "For every new level, the same devil will be there... we can never outrun the humanity. I've got to love the humanity because that will always be there. I can never outrun it by fixing myself." I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! To learn more about Andy’s corporate offering, Altitude Initiative, visit his website and Instagram. Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #8 The Feather, the Brick, and the Truck: Recognizing Life’s Wake-Up Calls
  7. May 15

    #7 Grief, the shadow of responsibility

    This episode features a deep and moving conversation with my friend and former colleague Lachlan Learg. Lachlan is a CrossFit Seminar Lead Instructor and gym owner. The conversation centers around his journey navigating immense personal loss while balancing the heavy responsibilities of business and family. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Key points from the episode The Weight of Responsibility Lachlan reflects on the “psychological reality” that while responsibility is a positive force, it can also become a burden that requires difficult choices. He shares how facing the arrival of his third child and a promotion to Flowmaster, he realised he was juggling too much and winging his professional preparation. And to be more present for his family, he made the difficult decision to sell his original CrossFit affiliate in Dubbo, which he had run for a decade. Lachlan also shares his views on work as not only as a means to provide, but as a way to model being a productive member of society for his children. Navigating Sudden Grief A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the sudden loss of Lachlan’s twin brother, Tavis, in a car accident in France in 2023. Lachlan describes the unique difficulty of losing a twin with whom he shared every life stage and interest. He shares how his therapist helped him understand and prepare for the oscillating nature of grief. And how he found CrossFit training to be vital outlet, noting that a particularly grueling workout felt like it accelerated his grieving process. Not to mention the strength he found through his CrossFit gym community, who shared their own stories of miscarriage, stillbirth, and loss, creating a sense of solidarity that made his own pain easier to bear. Finding Closure and Meaning Lachlan shares extraordinary experiences that helped him process his brother’s passing, such as the repatriation journey where he traveled to France to bring Tavis’s ashes home, retracing his brother’s final travel steps, which provided a necessary sense of closure. He also shares with us a series of vivid, lucid dreams where he communicated with Tavis. And how these dreams, which several close family members also experienced, helped him accept his brother’s death. “The goal of life isn’t to avoid struggle, but to struggle well” I hope you enjoyed that conversation, I know I did! Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments, I love hearing about what people take away from these conversations! Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #7 Grief, the shadow of responsibility
  8. May 1

    #6 Building range and transcending resistance

    Hello and welcome to another episode of Taming Thumos! My guest for this episode is Rich Burrows. Rich is a high performance coach, former intelligence officer and father. Rich has trained a range of people from world champion ultra endurance athletes to corporate CEOs and tech entrepreneurs. This conversation centres around stress and ways that we can often find ourselves like a frog in boiling water; incrementally becoming burned out by modern western living and the various micro-stressors we face on a daily basis. And most importantly, ways that we can manage and develop tolerance for stress rather than avoiding it. Scroll down if you’d like to watch the conversation or if you’re listening on Spotify please visit the Substack page here. Expect to hear how Rich uses tools such as breathwork, cold water exposure as well as pool training to help his clients transcend the limits of their own resistance and fear. He emphasises the importance of building range rather than just calm to handle life’s stressors. Focussing on controlling the controllables, nervous system regulation and movement and environment. As well as training for acute stress vs. living in chronic stress. We also dive into finding balance between logic and emotional regulation. Rich shares how marriage and parenting have been great teachers for him to learn how to see the emotional experience alongside the rational. Finally, we touch on the pillar of health often missed, the spiritual one. For Rich, spiritual health is tied to purpose; what one wants to leave behind for their family and community. Value Alignment; stepping back for a “thousand-yard view” to ensure daily behaviors align with core values. And transcendence; moving from self-improvement to responsibility for others, such as the gift of shaping a child’s life. Learn more about Rich’s work with The Resistance Lab here, focusing on meeting the resistance of cold exposure and expanding one’s window of tolerance. He is planning on hosting another Range Workshop on the Sunshine Coast following the success of the last workshop in Melbourne, collaborating with former AFL player Troy Simmonds to explore how movement informs performance and well-being. Stay tuned by following him on Instagram! "We're not about building calm, we're about building range. You want to actually widen the scope of what's available to you to feel, to experience, to activate without it causing you to completely flip your lid or shut down." I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Rich. As always, please leave your thoughts on the episode in the comments section on Substack. Pssst… this is where you can watch the video version of this episode! Support the cause If you’re enjoying the podcast, and would like to support men’s mental health, consider leaving a 5 star review on Spotify and sharing the episode on your social media! Stay up-to-date Never miss an episode by subscribing to Taming Thumos on Substack, it’s free! Every new episode and article is sent directly to your email inbox. Or if you’re listening on Spotify hit the notification bell to stay up to date with future episodes! Go deeper If you’re enjoying the vulnerability of the podcast and appreciate introspective, thought provoking content, consider checking out my personal publication Musings On Life and Such Things here. Much love This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tamingthumos.substack.com

    #6 Building range and transcending resistance

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A podcast where we drop the stigma and talk about men's mental health. Expect to read and hear inspiring stories from behind closed doors. Normalizing the challenges of everyday life, one conversation at a time... tamingthumos.substack.com