The Climb with Cherie Clonan

The Digital Picnic

The Climb is a podcast for people building something meaningful and finding their way through the ups, setbacks, and in-between moments that come with it. Hosted by Cherie, founder of The Digital Picnic (a digital marketing agency based in Melbourne/Naarm), the show explores the realities of growth through marketing, leadership, and neurodivergence. As a proud Autistic woman and agency founder of more than 11 years, Cherie brings both lived experience and strategic thinking to the conversation. Episodes blend practical frameworks, industry insight, and personal stories... including leadership lessons and moments rarely shared publicly. The podcast creates space for honest discussion around modern marketing that works, neurodivergent leadership... and leadership in all its complexity, from decision-making and team culture, to resilience and long-term growth. The Climb is named for the shared journey it represents. Whether you’re growing a business, leading others, or navigating your own next chapter, the climb looks different for everyone.

  1. May 27

    How to hire a team that protects your energy

    We break down what it really means to hire people who protect a neurodivergent founder’s energy. We share the frameworks Cherie uses to spot friction early, set boundaries and build a team culture that supports performance and wellbeing.  Key Takeaways:  Hiring the right team means hiring people who protect your energy, not just fill a role.Energy raisers reduce friction, support momentum, and make leadership feel lighter.Energy drainers create conflict and unnecessary mental load for founders.A quarterly team energy audit helps founders spot green, amber, and red dynamics early.Strong hiring decisions should measure friction removed, not just work produced.The best hires bring solutions, systems thinking, and lower executive function strain.Do not get seduced by charm or a polished CV while hiring.Brilliant jerks and chronic conflict cost more energy than their output is worth. This episode was proudly sponsored by Graham Psychology. Receive an ongoing discount of 20% off all appointment types [therapy and assessments]. Listeners can book directly via the website and enter ’THECLIMBPODCAST’ into the booking notes or call or email and mention the podcast.  Mentioned in this episode:  The Instagram carousel Cherie shares Disc profiles Patrick Lencioni definition of charmersShelley Johnson from Boldside  Hosted by Cherie Clonan [@cherie_thedigitalpicnic] and co-hosted and produced by Steph Clifford [@stephssocials]  Follow us on Instagram @theclimbpod_ Check out our agency @thedigitalpicnic > we teach digital marketing, and we can manage yours, too.

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The Climb is a podcast for people building something meaningful and finding their way through the ups, setbacks, and in-between moments that come with it. Hosted by Cherie, founder of The Digital Picnic (a digital marketing agency based in Melbourne/Naarm), the show explores the realities of growth through marketing, leadership, and neurodivergence. As a proud Autistic woman and agency founder of more than 11 years, Cherie brings both lived experience and strategic thinking to the conversation. Episodes blend practical frameworks, industry insight, and personal stories... including leadership lessons and moments rarely shared publicly. The podcast creates space for honest discussion around modern marketing that works, neurodivergent leadership... and leadership in all its complexity, from decision-making and team culture, to resilience and long-term growth. The Climb is named for the shared journey it represents. Whether you’re growing a business, leading others, or navigating your own next chapter, the climb looks different for everyone.