The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast

Chris Bruner

On The Business Leader’s Legacy Podcast, we dive deep into the minds of business owners, founders, and CEOs to uncover what truly drives them. Each episode explores where these leaders come from, how they’re navigating today’s challenges, and what trends are shaping their industries. It’s a real, behind-the-scenes look at leadership, innovation, and growth — and along the way, we explore where AI might play a role in helping businesses work smarter and scale faster.

  1. Jul 17

    The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast: Darren Lawson

    What if the biggest obstacle standing between your company and its next level of growth isn't strategy or funding — it's the way your people actually talk to each other? In this conversation, Chris sits down with Dr. Darren Lawson, a 36-year veteran of organizational communication and founder of Paradox Communication Consulting. Darren has spent his career diagnosing why teams break down — working across manufacturing, healthcare, logistics, and education to help leaders turn disconnected messaging into aligned, high-performing cultures. He describes his role almost like a doctor: coming in, running the diagnostics, and helping organizations heal the communication gaps that quietly drain trust and performance. Darren and Chris dig into why communication is finally being recognized as an operational competency — not just a "soft skill" — and unpack the paradox of AI in the workplace: the more we lean on technology, the more human connection, presence, and trust actually matter. Darren also shares what's ahead for his fractional communication leadership model, the challenge of scaling personalized work, and a beautifully simple picture of legacy involving three tennis balls that you won't forget anytime soon. If you lead people, this one will change how you think about the invisible structure holding your organization together. Darren Lawson's Contact LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrenlawson/ Website: https://www.theparadoxway.com/ Give it a listen, and if it speaks to you, hit subscribe — there's a lot more where this came from.

  2. Jun 11

    The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast: Cristin Smith

    What if the scariest moment of your life became the foundation for something that could change healthcare forever? Cristin Smith, founder and CEO of Saffron & Sage, was in her mid-20s — no major health history, never even broken a bone — when doctors discovered four rapidly growing tumors in her neck and thyroid. The medical consensus? Surgery and pharmaceutical dependency for life. But nobody could explain why. So she walked away from that answer, spent a year assembling her own integrative medical team, and set out to heal herself. In doing so, she found her calling. In this conversation, Cristin shares how she built Saffron & Sage — a thriving integrative health clinic in San Diego's Mission Hills — into a multi-vertical business spanning functional medicine, acupuncture, an on-site herbal pharmacy, handcrafted clean skincare, and corporate wellness programs serving companies like Google and Intuit. We dig into why she's cautious about healthcare trends, why peptide therapy is one she fully stands behind, the systemic challenges facing holistic healthcare today, and her bold vision for redirecting employer healthcare dollars toward truly preventative, integrative care. If you've ever wanted to understand what it really means to treat the whole person — not just the symptom — this one will stretch the way you think. Cristin Smith: @cristindsmith on LinkedIn | @saffronandsagesandiego on Instagram Subscribe so you don't miss what's coming next — you won't regret it.

  3. Jun 2

    The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast: Michael A. Campbell

    What if the way we've been hiring is fundamentally broken — and the fix is simpler than we think? Michael A. Campbell is on a mission to replace the guesswork in hiring with something far more powerful: proof. Michael is the founder and CEO of SignalVerified, a platform helping organizations move from gut-feel hiring to evidence-based decisions — verifying not just what candidates claim, but how they actually think, solve problems, and communicate. After 20+ years leading global teams at Intel and Lenovo (including over a decade living and working in Tokyo), Michael walked away from the corporate ladder to build something that matters. In this conversation, Michael breaks down the real cost of a bad hire (it's higher than most leaders think), why the rise of AI is making resumes less trustworthy than ever, and how SignalVerified's "define, do, verify" framework is helping companies find their next gem based on evidence — not assumptions. He also gets real about the founder's dilemma: when to say yes, when to say no, and how to stay focused when every new conversation pulls you in a different direction. If you're navigating talent acquisition, skills-based hiring, or the challenge of building something meaningful from scratch, this one is for you. Topics include: evidence-based hiring, skills-first recruiting, hiring risk, early talent acquisition, and purpose-driven entrepreneurship. Guest: Dr. Michael A. Campbell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmichaelcampbell/ If this episode added value, subscribe and share it with a business leader in your life who needs to hear it.

  4. May 29

    The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast: Paty Araiza

    What happens when a founder finally admits they can't do it all — and what gets unlocked on the other side of that decision? That's just one of the powerful threads running through this conversation with Paty Araiza, founder and CEO of Sales Career Lab. Paty's résumé reads like a masterclass in sales experience — from building a 75-person sales team from scratch in a single year, to generating $15 million in revenue, coaching over 100 sales professionals, and eventually launching her own consulting practice out of San Diego. But what makes her story worth listening to isn't just the numbers. It's the honesty. In this conversation, Paty and I dig into what it really takes to build a scalable sales organization as a founder, why so many early hires fail (hint: it's usually a systems problem, not a people problem), and how AI is quietly enabling a new generation of solopreneurs to punch well above their weight. We also get real about the challenge of letting go — whether that's handing off tasks, trusting a marketing agency, or finally stopping yourself from spending the whole day in LinkedIn DMs. Paty's mission — empowering others to reach their full potential — comes through in everything she does, and her vision for the legacy she wants to leave is one of the most grounded, human answers I've heard on this show. If you're a founder navigating sales strategy, fractional leadership, or just trying to build something that lasts, this one's for you. Guest: Patricia Araiza on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-araiza/ If this conversation added value, subscribe so you never miss an episode!

  5. May 25

    The Business Leader's Legacy Podcast: Brian Wygle

    Forty years of fixing companies. Thousands of light bulb moments. One simple mission: leave every person better than you found them. Brian Wygle is the owner of Help For My Company, and he has spent four decades doing what most business consultants only talk about — actually fixing the root problems that hold businesses back. From his early days in finance helping companies get funded, to forming his own investment banking firm, to now running a fully virtual consulting practice, Brian has seen it all. And his perspective is refreshingly honest. In this conversation, Brian breaks down why so many business owners pursue excellence in their product but completely neglect the business underneath it. He shares his Four E's of Leadership — Envision, Equip, Empower, Encourage — and the powerful framework of "what people" versus "why people" that reframes how you build and lead a team. He also gets real about the challenges of change management, the crowded consulting space, and the honest truth about how AI can help — and where it still falls short. Brian's go-to quote from Einstein says it better than anything: you can't fix a problem using the same thinking that created it. That one idea runs through everything in this episode. Whether you're scaling, struggling, or somewhere in between, this one is worth your time. Guest: Brian Wygle — find him at HelpForMyCompany.com and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianwygle/ If this conversation added value to your journey, subscribe so you never miss an episode. 🙏

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On The Business Leader’s Legacy Podcast, we dive deep into the minds of business owners, founders, and CEOs to uncover what truly drives them. Each episode explores where these leaders come from, how they’re navigating today’s challenges, and what trends are shaping their industries. It’s a real, behind-the-scenes look at leadership, innovation, and growth — and along the way, we explore where AI might play a role in helping businesses work smarter and scale faster.